Do you want to discuss boring politics? (192 Viewers)

[David O'Day]

she's fannied off

 

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[shmmeee]

They need to check the fridge for Liz Truss

 

[clint van damme]

Truss gone.

 

[David O'Day]

lovely stuff

 

[shmmeee]

Truss has gone lmao

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Getting slow clapped to the stage!

 

[clint van damme]

No doubt the fault of the shadowy anti growth coalition.

 

[clint van damme]

Libs up to 70, people make fun of Davey but that's some performance, even taking into account the tory meltdown.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

ffs i was just about to go to bed

It's not as though you have to get up to go to work .

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I find it depressing that anyone would vote Reform to be honest. I value this country because it is diverse and think it is a strength not a problem.

So you wouldn't value it if it wasn't diverse. What utter tosh.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So you wouldn't value it if it wasn't diverse. What utter tosh.

For so many to vote for a party because of one man on one issue is deeply troubling.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

For so many to vote for a party because of one man on one issue is deeply troubling.

Troubling for you, not for those who voted for them. Why on earth are you " troubled" by it ?

 

[Evo1883]

Troubling for you, not for those who voted for them.

But once people realise that infact he cannot give them the 1 thing they voted for .. then what are they left with ?

 

[MalcSB]

Labour have a lot to thank Reform for. The people haven’t supported Labour but shown their anger at the Tories by splitting the right of centre vote between Cons and Reform.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Troubling for you, not for those who voted for them. Why on earth are you " troubled" by it ?

Someone turning up, literally blaming foreigners for every problem in the country and winning loads of votes isn’t a cause for concern? OK

 

[Evo1883]

You have to say Jeremy corbyn winning north Islington is quite impressive as an independent despite labour giving it a proper go there

 

[skybluetony176]

I don’t think anyone in history has deserved to voted out more than Truss.

 

[Nick]

You all been on speed through the night or something? Anybody slept?

 

[MalcSB]

The "right" only got about 33% in France and their "massive gains" in Germany saw them them get half the votes of the CDU. While Meloni in Italy only got 20 something % of the vote and The Scandi far right parties crumbled.

If you want to talk about Europe let is keep it factual.

its funny how dismissive you were about the “right” share of the vote in France. It looks like Labour will have a massive majority with only about the same percentage share. Labour clearly didn’t win the argument but have managed to win the election.

 

[skybluetony176]

Labour have a lot to thank Reform for. The people haven’t supported Labour but shown their anger at the Tories by splitting the right of centre vote between Cons and Reform.

Reform have a lot to thank the Tories for.

 

[Ian1779]

its funny how dismissive you were about the “right” share of the vote in France. It looks like Labour will have a massive majority with only about the same percentage share. Labour clearly didn’t win the argument but have managed to win the election.

So what other key note policies will Reform be championing over the next 5 years other than ‘blame the foreigners’

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Labour have a lot to thank Reform for. The people haven’t supported Labour but shown their anger at the Tories by splitting the right of centre vote between Cons and Reform.

Agreed. It's not about voting for the policies of Reform so much as a statement on the main two parties.
However, if the vote for Reform was exclusively about trying to prevent unchecked immigration it's something labour need to address because with what is happening in France it may become a real issue in the not too distant future.

 

[Evo1883]

You all been on speed through the night or something? Anybody slept?

I've been up and swimming since half 6

 

[MalcSB]

Reform have a lot to thank the Tories for.

Labour have hardly a greater share of the vote than last time - when they suffered a heavy defeat. Hardly a ringing endorsement of their policies, is it. They will have to play their cards very carefully despite having a huge majority, many of their gains would easily be reversed.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

So what other key note policies will Reform be championing over the next 5 years other than ‘blame the foreigners’

But they only won 4 seats and less than 5 million voted for them so you don't need to worry about it.

 

[Sick Boy]

Having just woken up to these results my thoughts are actually to be pretty concerned at how many votes Snake Oil UK has gained on a single issue with a single charlatan leading the charge. Combined with a drop in turnout basically everywhere and Labour’s vote share not changing substantially, there’s a serious job for them to do if they want a second term.

The destruction of the SNP however is a thing of beauty and hopefully is repeated in the Holyrood elections.

I still reckon he’ll end up as Tory leader at some point if they go even further to the right. Possibly even unifying the two parties.

 

[MalcSB]

So what other key note policies will Reform be championing over the next 5 years other than ‘blame the foreigners’

If the Reform vote was largely a protest vote by usual Tory voters, Reform policies were probably of little interest this time and will be even less so next time. Those protest votes return to Tories and Labour are toast.

The one caveat of course is giving the vote to children.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Someone turning up, literally blaming foreigners for every problem in the country and winning loads of votes isn’t a cause for concern? OK

Loads of votes ? Less than 5 million . Surely you're not troubled by such low numbers ?

 

[MalcSB]

But they only won 4 seats and less than 5 million voted for them so you don't need to worry about it.

They will enjoy their moment of victory. The party analysts will be more concerned.

 

[MalcSB]

Loads of votes ? Less than 5 million . Surely you're not troubled by such low numbers ?

I think he is concerned.

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Glad the Tories are gone. Now time for Labour to show that they are actually going to change things.

 

[clint van damme]

I still reckon he’ll end up as Tory leader at some point if they go even further to the right. Possibly even unifying the two parties.

Currently 11/1.
Can't see them uniting, don't think the tories, who will be trying to rebuild their reputation for fiscal responsibility can align themselves with a manifesto which would be one of the greatest give aways in history with (currently) no explanation of how it will be paid for.

 

[Sick Boy]

Currently 11/1.
Can't see them uniting, don't think the tories, who will be trying to rebuild their reputation for fiscal responsibility can align themselves with a manifesto which would be one of the greatest give aways in history with (currently) no explanation of how it will be paid for.

It really depends on how mad they go. Unifying the parties would be a long shot but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him ending up as leader, which I think is his long game.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

If you don't think there's a difference between the parties, or they're all frauds then why are you on here seemingly cheerleading for Reform?

The people who voted for Brexit didn't really have a clue what they were voting for; they either bought a grand lie, or wanted to give "the establishment" a poke in the eye, or didn't like immigrants.

The same sort of people are voting for Reform for the same 'reasons', with a bit of racism added into the mix. It's not something to celebrate, imho.

What a ridiculous post.

You can't call everyone that disagrees with your opinion a racist or that they 'didn't know what they were voting for'. It's extremely arrogant sneering.

I'm not cheerleader for anyone either. Is there a single person that doesn't want a left leaning party to win on here? It's an echo chamber rather than a genuine politics thread, and it seems odd to me that a party that were invented 5 minutes ago, of whom many people would have voted for as a protest has caused so many on here to get rattled. Maybe instead of rubbishing it, some of the thoughts of those people can be used to make the country a better place. Ironically, the dismissal of those people was one of the largest factors in the brexit vote.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I still reckon he’ll end up as Tory leader at some point if they go even further to the right. Possibly even unifying the two parties.

If the Tories want to get back in they either have to make him go away or unite with him. Either way, Starmer only got 35% of the vote in England. I could genuinely see it being a one term government