Do you want to discuss boring politics? (163 Viewers)

[Sick Boy]

I’d have thought that’s pretty obvious.

 

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[fatso]

No shit!

 

[MalcSB]

A period of silence from the large percentage of the population that benefitted from mass employment, decent pensions, free education and low house prices would be most welcome.

How very democratic of you.

 

[David O'Day]

The compromise is you flip the HoL to PR, hold the elections two years after a parliamentary election, allow it to have delaying powers and suggest modifications to bills, but is unable to stop them ultimately.

Then all marginal (including the unsavoury) voices get heard, but people still get local representation (which is the benefit of our current system, it's easy to know who to contact to take up your cause).

Making the HoL elected by PR is a good move

 

[MalcSB]

Totally irrelevant, definitely won’t come back to bite them on their arses.

 

[David O'Day]

please don’t confuse me even more

Its No wonder economies collapse, it’s all smoke and mirrors,

What? it's simply the average pay rise people get per year and is it higher than inflation.

 

[MalcSB]

What? it's simply the average pay rise people get per year and is it higher than inflation.

I know that, silly. It was the relevance to the post about banking that confused me.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The new justice minister

Oh my dare we hope for an evidenced based approach?



This could save billions

also valance

dare we believe the age of experts and evidence and enlightenment is upon us and blind faith and prejudice has been found wanting

and as for those who say would he trust people in his workplace read about timpsons

 

[PVA]

That's a very different question to 'why did you vote for Labour?'

Also people can want both of those things (I certainly did!), they certainly aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[torchomatic]

It's been highlighted because the turn out was much lower this time than predicted.

It's not being highlighted, it's being hammered.

 

[MalcSB]

That's a very different question to 'why did you vote for Labour?'

Also people can want both of those things (I certainly did!), they certainly aren't mutually exclusive.

If they had asked that sample why they had voted Labour, 80% would have said they hadn’t.

 

[wingy]

It's a done deal for me,Sunak's in on it,the security service's et al,we will see an end to Brexit style influence on our system and the war in Ukraine will be over!!

 

[skybluetony176]

FPTP has it's drawbacks, however it does mostly keep crackpot/extremist candidates and parties out of elected office

I would have agreed but the last Tory government appointees are still fresh in my mind, and their parliamentary party was even worse.

 

[fernandopartridge]

The new justice minister

Oh my dare we hope for an evidenced based approach?



This could save billions

also valance

dare we believe the age of experts and evidence and enlightenment is upon us and blind faith and prejudice has been found wanting

and as for those who say would he trust people in his workplace read about timpsons

it's a good appointment and an encouraging act by Labour that they're not going to go down appeasing the hang em flog em brigade

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

it's a good appointment and an encouraging act by Labour that they're not going to go down appeasing the hang em flog em brigade

It’s where he’s nuanced and one has to win that argument otherwise it’s billions down the drain

 

[SBAndy]

I think this is the early indication that caring about the Daily Mail headlines is now out the window. May be wrong.

 

[SBAndy]

Interesting.

 

[alexccfc99]

I would have agreed but the last Tory government appointees are still fresh in my mind, and their parliamentary party was even worse.

I disliked the last government but compared to the NF/BNP they were Saints if you get my drift

 

[rob9872]

There's a really weird thing is this country where a large percentage of the population seem to hate the idea that things improve for anyone else.

I don't hate the idea, I just don't see why working hard should pay for that. I'd love a fairer society, but workers seem to get bashed at both ends of the spectrum. I cant justify freeloaders, but equally happy to pay for those who genuinely cant work. Also extra money doesn't always mean extra staff or better services. If it did I doubt most would complain, but there's a lot of waste in public funds and it goes as much or more to administrators as front line staff. I think therefore there's a perception that people don't want to help, but in reality a number who simply begrudge feeling their contribution isn't valued.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Interesting.

Hmm, think that's playing it wrong really. Think it's clear that, for whatever reason (can't see it myself, but others can!) he has a cult of personality that persuades people to vote for things they otherwise wouldn't If he hangs around there's an issue. If he doesn't, then it's the unlikely chance they find another charismatic frontman.

 

[rob9872]

he has a cult of personality

I think some joker has switched the L & N on on your keyboard

 

[wingy]

The Russian plant will be long gone just like the other one that presided in No 10 !!

 

[clint van damme]

Haha! Brilliant!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Haha! Brilliant!

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

A period of silence from the large percentage of the population that benefitted from mass employment, decent pensions, free education and low house prices would be most welcome.

Most of them are dead.

 

[MalcSB]

Most of them are dead.

Not enough for shmmeee’s liking,

 

[wingy]

Not enough for shmmeee’s liking,

Or Boris!!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

NEW: Summary of Prime Minister Keir Starmer's first press conference - New government will "do things differently" and he will chair new "mission delivery boards" as prime minister to ensure each department is performing to his expectations - Visit all four nations tomorrow - Meet with regional mayors on Tuesday - he will work with them "regardless of the colour of their rosette" - Travel to Washington on Tuesday for NATO - Says he will have to take tough decisions on public services early but that's "not a prelude" to announcing a tax which is not in the manifesto - Says his government will be clear about "the way we use prisons" and that too many people are locked back up soon after being released, adding his new prisons minister James Tipson "hasn't just talked the talk, he's walked the walk" - Says he has sat in court and watched people being sent to jail, and reflected that they might not have been there if they had support earlier - Commits to reaching 2.5% defence spending within fiscal rules - Immediate work on NHS has begun, mentioning certain hospitals which have set up schemes to work evenings and weekends - Cannot commit to two-child benefit due to fiscal constraints - Rwanda policy "dead and buried" saying it never acted as a deterrent - "We have to be honest about [the NHS], it is broken", adding "Our job is not to say who broke it, it is to go on and fix it" - "Really proud" of his Cabinet diversity with lowest-ever privately educated members (4%)

 

[chiefdave]

They have now

 

[Ian1779]

They have now

#starmerpenaltydrama

 

[wingy]

#starmerpenaltydrama

Shoulda won in ninety though!?

 

[stupot07]

Hmm, think that's playing it wrong really. Think it's clear that, for whatever reason (can't see it myself, but others can!) he has a cult of personality that persuades people to vote for things they otherwise wouldn't If he hangs around there's an issue. If he doesn't, then it's the unlikely chance they find another charismatic frontman.

Yeah I was talking to someone I know, and he was telling me he voted reform. I asked what policies he liked, he said he didn't know any, he just likes Farage. He also liked Boris Johnson.

 

[Ian1779]

Shoulda won in ninety though!?

All we need now is a Starmer photo with a pint and nine flags.

 

[fatso]

It’s more those that had those things because they lived in a country that until recently had ran half the planet, shouldn’t be whining about the next generations finding ways to live better that don’t rely on having an economy bigger than China.

We haven't ruled over shit since before ww2
No ones left alive from the days when Britania ruled the waves.

What we may(?) Have is an elderly generation that can't understand the dumb ass decisions being made by todays younger generations. Try explaining to them why there's a need for so many food banks while people are arguing over whether a woman can be born with a penis.

 

[Otis]

Sorry if this has already been posted.

Do love a bit of Johnathan Pie