HMP Wandsworth video (2 Viewers)

[Bugsy]

2nd vid is fake apparently,

 

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[Sky Blue Pete]

I don’t know what the criteria are, but I’d rather let out every non violent criminal before a single violent one. No doubt someone will have some amazing example to make me change my mind but that’s seems like an obvious rule of thumb.

That is the rule for bringing forward any releases no violent prisoner or persons convicted of a sexual offence
However people are released on licence to serve the 50% of their sentence in the community

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

2nd vid is fake apparently,

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No surprise

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

I don’t know what the criteria are, but I’d rather let out every non violent criminal before a single violent one. No doubt someone will have some amazing example to make me change my mind but that’s seems like an obvious rule of thumb.

The issue with that would be that people would see it as fair game to commit non violent crimes. You only have to see the shoplifting epidemic that we currently have following the non prosecution if its under £200 to get an idea of what would happen.
Maybe release people on longer sentences a little earlier still (although I'm sure this is probably happening already) may be another thing to consider.
There still has to be a deterrent in place to stop people committing crime in the first place.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

2nd vid is fake apparently,

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She's rough as owt

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The issue with that would be that people would see it as fair game to commit non violent crimes. You only have to see the shoplifting epidemic that we currently have following the non prosecution if its under £200 to get an idea of what would happen.
Maybe release people on longer sentences a little earlier still (although I'm sure this is probably happening already) may be another thing to consider.
There still has to be a deterrent in place to stop people committing crime in the first place.

It is difficult when certain non negotiable rules for living in a society are not longer seen as the expectation
Anarchy is disastrous

 

[SBAndy]

The issue with that would be that people would see it as fair game to commit non violent crimes. You only have to see the shoplifting epidemic that we currently have following the non prosecution if its under £200 to get an idea of what would happen.
Maybe release people on longer sentences a little earlier still (although I'm sure this is probably happening already) may be another thing to consider.
There still has to be a deterrent in place to stop people committing crime in the first place.

Don’t think non-prosecution is the angle they’re coming at, so can’t see it being comparable to the shoplifting stuff.

 

[We'll_live_and_die]

I love this, a thread about a woman getting banged in a cell turns into a serious chat about prison overcrowding.

Never change SBT, never change.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

The issue with that would be that people would see it as fair game to commit non violent crimes. You only have to see the shoplifting epidemic that we currently have following the non prosecution if its under £200 to get an idea of what would happen.
Maybe release people on longer sentences a little earlier still (although I'm sure this is probably happening already) may be another thing to consider.
There still has to be a deterrent in place to stop people committing crime in the first place.

Not if there are other punishments put in place with restorative justice.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Build more Prisons is surely a better option than releasing criminals on the street.

Not really, if the number of people being imprisoned is increasing then prison is not demonstrating it to be an effective way to reduce crime.