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duffer

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Pop yourself into the "ukraine is winning" simulator for a few hours - that should help.

What on you warbling on about ? Go lie down baby, that dribbling has made your bib all wet.
 

duffer

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What's that line about wrestling with pigs? You both get dirty but the pig enjoys it? I'm getting that vibe here.

Best to ignore the idiots, I guess..
 

Sky Blue Pete

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It seems at least one person was killed and others injured.

Also seems Trump turned his head and that was why he was winged.

They also interviewed at least one person who saw the shooter, drew the security forces attention but seemingly nothing happened.

My first reaction was surprise.

But on further recollection it seemed inevitable.

The people who have spent the last 8 years calling Trump worse than Hitler have some reflection to do.
More than him for inciting violence ????
 

Terry_dactyl

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Given that the security forces were told by the crowd that someone was in the roof with a gun it does seem a bit strange.
Well, the bloke who said he was pointing at the shooter, also confirmed that the security wouldn’t have been able to see the shooter from where they were.
I got the impression he/his group were shouting and pointing some way away from the security…they weren’t even inside the rally. At a trump rally I think there are a lot of people shouting and pointing.
A bit mad that security hadn’t positioned someone on that roof though.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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It's really hard for some people to just say "that's wrong that is " isn't it

I couldn't imagine them on a thread if Biden had been shot saying 'he deserved it'. Or even just using it to have another pop at someone they don't like.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump himself is a clown, but when you start shooting your political enemies that has gone much too far. The whole 'it's alright when we do it' kind of attitude is hypocritical and much why the left is seeing resistance around the world at the moment.
 

Sick Boy

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I couldn't imagine them on a thread if Biden had been shot saying 'he deserved it'. Or even just using it to have another pop at someone they don't like.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump himself is a clown, but when you start shooting your political enemies that has gone much too far. The whole 'it's alright when we do it' kind of attitude is hypocritical and much why the left is seeing resistance around the world at the moment.
There are posts on here this morning trying to downplay the Capitol attack. It works both ways.
 

torchomatic

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Oh yeah forgot about that - that was worse than 9/11 wasn't it.
Yet, I bet you were apoplectic at Starmer having a curry.
 

Sick Boy

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Go on then.

Why should a domestic terror attack in which in an attempt to prevent democracy in an election that Trump lost and in which ordinary people lost their lives not be ok to talk about in this context?

Didn’t he record a song with them and promise to pardon them if he wins the next election?

And the Democrats are hardly left-wing. Pretty sure they’d be centre right in the UK.
 

clint van damme

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The fact we are even talking about the Capitol proves my point.

No it doesn't. It's shining a light on the hypocrites on here.
You either disagree with trying to subvert democracy using violence or you don't.
There are people on here who've been throwing out the laughing emojis every time someone mentions Capitol Hill who all of sudden have developed a moral compass. Like I said, fucking clowns.
 

Grendel

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It is possible to think that this is obviously an awful thing to happen but also that Trump's language and behaviour made it more likely.

The two things are not mutually exclusive.

So dividing opinion is likely to create an assination attempt?
 

Grendel

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Most of it brought on by himself.

Thankfully it wasn't any worse, the reaction by his loyal mob doesn't bear thinking about.

Here there was no real attempt to say it’s wrong at all - he bought it on himself!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Go on then.

Why should a domestic terror attack in which in an attempt to prevent democracy in an election that Trump lost and in which ordinary people lost their lives not be ok to talk about in this context?

Didn’t he record a song with them and promise to pardon them if he wins the next election?

And the Democrats are hardly left-wing. Pretty sure they’d be centre right in the UK.

Go on what? You are getting your knickers in a twist here.

What did or did not happen at the Capitol has nothing to do with an assassination attempt, and to bring it up about 12 hours after someone has been shot in the context you have shows a very clear agenda. That's literally the end of it, and as I said, you're proving my point with flying colours.

If you want to go into what happened that day and start screaming about it then that's up to you. Just pick your timing and approach better, or you look like someone trying to justify what happened yesterday. There's a few of you here.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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No it doesn't. It's shining a light on the hypocrites on here.
You either disagree with trying to subvert democracy using violence or you don't.
There are people on here who've been throwing out the laughing emojis every time someone mentions Capitol Hill who all of sudden have developed a moral compass. Like I said, fucking clowns.

It absolutely proves my point. Not sure why it is so hard to understand. Doesn't matter how much you try and dress it all up.
 

Ian1779

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I couldn't imagine them on a thread if Biden had been shot saying 'he deserved it'. Or even just using it to have another pop at someone they don't like.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump himself is a clown, but when you start shooting your political enemies that has gone much too far. The whole 'it's alright when we do it' kind of attitude is hypocritical and much why the left is seeing resistance around the world at the moment.
If you think the prominent governments of the world are ‘left’ then I have some magic beans for you to buy at an amazing price - you won’t believe what happens when you plant them.

It is not acceptable for this to have happened to Trump, or for any politician for that matter.

All this will do is embolden his supporters further, and possibly pave the way for more violence down the road.

The USA is a car crash right now, time to stay well away.
 

Sick Boy

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The whole 'it's alright when we do it' kind of attitude is hypocritical and much why the left is seeing resistance around the world at the moment.

Go on what? You are getting your knickers in a twist here.

What did or did not happen at the Capitol has nothing to do with an assassination attempt, and to bring it up about 12 hours after someone has been shot in the context you have shows a very clear agenda. That's literally the end of it, and as I said, you're proving my point with flying colours.

If you want to go into what happened that day and start screaming about it then that's up to you. Just pick your timing and approach better, or you look like someone trying to justify what happened yesterday. There's a few of you here.
No where have I tried to justify it whatsoever.

Any violence or murder of politicians is inherently wrong. He’s also someone’s husband and father.

I’ve spoken on here several times about the Jo Cox murder how depressing it was that and that the same old rhetoric from both sides remained.

The fact you can’t see your own hypocrisy in your two posts above is incredible.
 

clint van damme

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It absolutely proves my point. Not sure why it is so hard to understand. Doesn't matter how much you try and dress it all up.

No it doesn't. It shines a light on the hypocrites on here and elsewhere here who supported violence as a method of subverting democracy when it suited them.
Capitol hill was wrong, the attempt to assassinate Trump was,wrong, but some people support the former and not the latter.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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No where have I tried to justify it whatsoever. Any violence or murder of politicians is inherently wrong. I’ve spoken on here several times about the Jo Cox murder how depressing it was that the same old rhetoric from both sides remained.

The fact you can’t see your own hypocrisy between the two posts above is incredible

You've been called out so you're trying to go on the offensive, but every time you post you just make it worse. The fact you have felt forced to have just done that first paragraph is another glowing validation that this is the case. Why not just say that the first time instead of talking about the Capitol? You've just, again, proved my point.

There's zero hypocritical about my two posts either, they're both referencing the same thing. You know that though.

Like I said, you're going on the offensive because you thought in generally what is a pretty safe leftist space, you could talk some shit and not get challenged. You have, and you're now flapping around. Give it a rest.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Is that the same attempted overthrow where the police opened the door for a bunch of grannies and weirdos to walk around the Capitol and Trump told to "go home"?



The same one where hundreds of "MAGA terrorists" are likely to be released due to prosecutorial overreach?


Agree that trump says a lot of absolute drivel, including a lot of incendiary rhetoric but think you need to relax a bit. I know you are upset that the attempt failed but it's not your fault. Go put the kettle on and have a bit of jam on toast.

and no, I'm.not a Trump supporter.

It took Trump ages to tell them to go home. There was a documentary with people that were with him at the time saying he was watching it all unfold looking very happy while everyone was telling him he need to put out a statement. In fact at the start his tweets were stoking it up.

I have also wondered if this were Biden that had been injured how Trump would have responded. I don't think it would have been magnanimous and would have contained some barbs and criticism of Biden.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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No it doesn't. It shines a light on the hypocrites on here and elsewhere here who supported violence as a method of subverting democracy when it suited them.
Capitol hill was wrong, the attempt to assassinate Trump was,wrong, but some people support the former and not the latter.

You can say both are wrong, but to bring one up so soon after the other is a pathetic look. That's the point of me and some others. We then saw an attempt at doubling down, which was more embarrasing than the first time. It all proves my point to its entirety, but because some people don't want to hear it, we're going round the houses.
 

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