clint van damme
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People on here who were cheering on the capitol hill attacks getting their knickers in a twist about this, fucking clowns.
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Ccfcisparks
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I think I will be avoiding twitter today...
Sky Blue Pete
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More than him for inciting violence ????
Sky Blue Pete
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It’s a plague on all. One of the issues is just calling out one side.
Sick Boy
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Yeah, watching Biden calling Trump a loser and a sucker in the debate was just depressing.
Terry_dactyl
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Well, the bloke who said he was pointing at the shooter, also confirmed that the security wouldn’t have been able to see the shooter from where they were.
I got the impression he/his group were shouting and pointing some way away from the security…they weren’t even inside the rally. At a trump rally I think there are a lot of people shouting and pointing.
A bit mad that security hadn’t positioned someone on that roof though.
duffer
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I don't see many people saying it's right.
Is it unfair to point out though, that Trump seems to struggle to just say "that's wrong" - when the violence or threats are against his opponents?
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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I couldn't imagine them on a thread if Biden had been shot saying 'he deserved it'. Or even just using it to have another pop at someone they don't like.
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump himself is a clown, but when you start shooting your political enemies that has gone much too far. The whole 'it's alright when we do it' kind of attitude is hypocritical and much why the left is seeing resistance around the world at the moment.
Sick Boy
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We can see on this very thread that both sides are at it.
Sick Boy
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There are posts on here this morning trying to downplay the Capitol attack. It works both ways.
Evo1883
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I agree , maybe the lesson for all of us is just to be better
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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The fact we are even talking about the Capitol proves my point.
Sick Boy
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Not really. It’s the complete opposite.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Oh dear.
torchomatic
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Yet, I bet you were apoplectic at Starmer having a curry.
ProfessorbyGrace
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Anyone here familiar with Hegel’s Dialectic?
Sick Boy
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Go on then.
Why should a domestic terror attack in which in an attempt to prevent democracy in an election that Trump lost and in which ordinary people lost their lives not be ok to talk about in this context?
Didn’t he record a song with them and promise to pardon them if he wins the next election?
And the Democrats are hardly left-wing. Pretty sure they’d be centre right in the UK.
clint van damme
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No it doesn't. It's shining a light on the hypocrites on here.
You either disagree with trying to subvert democracy using violence or you don't.
There are people on here who've been throwing out the laughing emojis every time someone mentions Capitol Hill who all of sudden have developed a moral compass. Like I said, fucking clowns.
SIR ERNIE
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Tried to get my head around it a few years ago.
Still got the migraine.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Go on what? You are getting your knickers in a twist here.
What did or did not happen at the Capitol has nothing to do with an assassination attempt, and to bring it up about 12 hours after someone has been shot in the context you have shows a very clear agenda. That's literally the end of it, and as I said, you're proving my point with flying colours.
If you want to go into what happened that day and start screaming about it then that's up to you. Just pick your timing and approach better, or you look like someone trying to justify what happened yesterday. There's a few of you here.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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It absolutely proves my point. Not sure why it is so hard to understand. Doesn't matter how much you try and dress it all up.
Ian1779
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If you think the prominent governments of the world are ‘left’ then I have some magic beans for you to buy at an amazing price - you won’t believe what happens when you plant them.
It is not acceptable for this to have happened to Trump, or for any politician for that matter.
All this will do is embolden his supporters further, and possibly pave the way for more violence down the road.
The USA is a car crash right now, time to stay well away.
Sick Boy
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No where have I tried to justify it whatsoever.
Any violence or murder of politicians is inherently wrong. He’s also someone’s husband and father.
I’ve spoken on here several times about the Jo Cox murder how depressing it was that and that the same old rhetoric from both sides remained.
The fact you can’t see your own hypocrisy in your two posts above is incredible.
clint van damme
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No it doesn't. It shines a light on the hypocrites on here and elsewhere here who supported violence as a method of subverting democracy when it suited them.
Capitol hill was wrong, the attempt to assassinate Trump was,wrong, but some people support the former and not the latter.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You've been called out so you're trying to go on the offensive, but every time you post you just make it worse. The fact you have felt forced to have just done that first paragraph is another glowing validation that this is the case. Why not just say that the first time instead of talking about the Capitol? You've just, again, proved my point.
There's zero hypocritical about my two posts either, they're both referencing the same thing. You know that though.
Like I said, you're going on the offensive because you thought in generally what is a pretty safe leftist space, you could talk some shit and not get challenged. You have, and you're now flapping around. Give it a rest.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Is that the same attempted overthrow where the police opened the door for a bunch of grannies and weirdos to walk around the Capitol and Trump told to "go home"?
The same one where hundreds of "MAGA terrorists" are likely to be released due to prosecutorial overreach?
Supreme Court ruling casts doubt on hundreds of Jan 6 cases
The court narrows the use of an obstruction charge brought against hundreds of people over the 2021 Capitol riot.www.bbc.co.uk
Agree that trump says a lot of absolute drivel, including a lot of incendiary rhetoric but think you need to relax a bit. I know you are upset that the attempt failed but it's not your fault. Go put the kettle on and have a bit of jam on toast.
and no, I'm.not a Trump supporter.
It took Trump ages to tell them to go home. There was a documentary with people that were with him at the time saying he was watching it all unfold looking very happy while everyone was telling him he need to put out a statement. In fact at the start his tweets were stoking it up.
I have also wondered if this were Biden that had been injured how Trump would have responded. I don't think it would have been magnanimous and would have contained some barbs and criticism of Biden.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You can say both are wrong, but to bring one up so soon after the other is a pathetic look. That's the point of me and some others. We then saw an attempt at doubling down, which was more embarrasing than the first time. It all proves my point to its entirety, but because some people don't want to hear it, we're going round the houses.
Yes because that's all he's done isn't it.
clint van damme
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Capitol Hill has a huge connection to what happened yesterday, it definitely should be brought up.
And look at the posts on this thread, prior to yesterday, which tried to have serious discussions on Capitol Hill that got the usual laughing emoji, all of a sudden the same people don't think violent subversion is a laughing matter, again, fucking clowns.