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covcity4life

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The difference was that your parents came to work and for better opportunities for their future generations. Many now see it as an easy option to freeloading.

In fact you probably have retained some of your parents work ethic if you are second generation. I don't know if you have kids yet, but in my experience third generation British Asians are used to a nice lifestyle and are as lazy as their white British friends and relatives.

Tbf a lot of Polish and Czech people here now are if similar mindsetand make great employees.

It seems some others and usually men who travel without families are the biggest problem.
Yeah 3rd generation British Asians are very different to 1st and 2nd when it comes to work ethic lol

Rather sit on games consoles and Snapchat all day lol
 

nicksar

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The difference was that your parents came to work and for better opportunities for their future generations. Many now see it as an easy option to freeloading.

In fact you probably have retained some of your parents work ethic if you are second generation. I don't know if you have kids yet, but in my experience third generation British Asians are used to a nice lifestyle and are as lazy as their white British friends and relatives.

Tbf a lot of Polish and Czech people here now are if similar mindsetand make great employees.

It seems some others and usually men who travel without families are the biggest problem.
I have a couple of Polish friends, great blokes and very hard workers they have built up a thriving car sales & repair business.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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The statistics just don't bear that out though.

It's exactly what the statistics say. You've also got someone on here who is a British Asian reinforcing this.

Much like the Romanians and Albanians who’ve been coming to live and work in Italy for decades, yet they’re demonised by the media in the UK and it inevitably gets lapped up.

They're demonised in the media because of the astronomical rates of crime that are committed by them, not to mention their overrepresentation in the prison system. Albanians in particular control a lot of the drug and trafficking market in the UK. If the same was happening in Albania by British citizens I doubt anyone would be on here defending them.

Unfortunately that also means the many who are hard workers get the label, but anyone with a pinch of common sense should be able to decipher the difference.
 

Sick Boy

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It's exactly what the statistics say. You've also got someone on here who is a British Asian reinforcing this.



They're demonised in the media because of the astronomical rates of crime that are committed by them, not to mention their overrepresentation in the prison system. Albanians in particular control a lot of the drug and trafficking market in the UK. If the same was happening in Albania by British citizens I doubt anyone would be on here defending them.

Unfortunately that also means the many who are hard workers get the label, but anyone with a pinch of common sense should be able to decipher the difference.
The Ndrangheta controls 80% of the cocaine trade into Europe. Using that logic it’s like lumping Italians into the same bracket as them, which is just ridiculous.
 

nicksar

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My wife once had a Romanian lady that managed the place she worked at and she was a nice person,the only Albanian i've personally (knowingly) met was the barber I used (he's not in the shop anymore) he was a shit hot barber though and a nice lad.
There are good and bad in all nationalities....I've known some utter scumbag white British people in my 70 years.
 

Nick

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Yeah…the UK market. They’re not the ones bringing it into Europe.

The average Albanian has as much to do with the drug trade as the average Italian.

How does the number of albanians in prison in the UK compare to the number in society?

Of course it's not saying every person who is albanian is a drug dealer but it's silly to just write things like this off.
 

Sick Boy

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How does the number of albanians in prison in the UK compare to the number in society?

Of course it's not saying every person who is albanian is a drug dealer but it's silly to just write things like this off.
I have no idea. I’m going off my own real life experiences in a country where they’ve been encouraged to live and work for decades and are integrated into society.

There was the same said about Romanians around 2004 when they could live and work in Britain.
 

SBAndy

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The difference was that your parents came to work and for better opportunities for their future generations. Many now see it as an easy option to freeloading.

In fact you probably have retained some of your parents work ethic if you are second generation. I don't know if you have kids yet, but in my experience third generation British Asians are used to a nice lifestyle and are as lazy as their white British friends and relatives.

Tbf a lot of Polish and Czech people here now are if similar mindsetand make great employees.

It seems some others and usually men who travel without families are the biggest problem.

I’m merely musing here, but could it be because they needed to integrate more? I’d imagine the various ethnic populations of the UK were a lot lower previously, so a) there wasn’t any particular ‘go-to’ location/estate, and b) they had to get to know Dave next door and Janet over the street unless they wanted to live a lonely existence. This may be miles off, I wasn’t around.

Nowadays people coming over from, as an example, Bangladesh, are far more likely to either know people over here, or know of a particular Bangladeshi community they could move to. This, I suppose, perpetuates the problem.

As I say, a lot of the above is guesswork but logically seems to make sense.
 

Diogenes

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My wife once had a Romanian lady that managed the place she worked at and she was a nice person,the only Albanian i've personally (knowingly) met was the barber I used (he's not in the shop anymore) he was a shit hot barber though and a nice lad.
There are good and bad in all nationalities....I've known some utter scumbag white British people in my 70 years.

Of course you have, everyone has met utter scumbag white British people. There's plenty of them about. We have all I'm sure met wonderful people of differing nationalities. That's where statistics come in handy rather than anecdotal evidence.

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Whites are actually under represented in the prison system. Whereas black/black British and Muslims are overrepresented relative to their % of the British population.

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At the last census there were 28000 Albanians residing in the UK. If we double that to adjust for population growth to 56000 it would mean that 2.2 of Albanians in the UK end up in prison. That's huge compared the 0.15% of the rest of the population.
 

Sick Boy

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In Italy there are around 450,000 Albanians and just under 1,900 Albanians in prison.

They’ve been encouraged to live and work in the country for decades and are integrated.
 

covcity4life

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I’m merely musing here, but could it be because they needed to integrate more? I’d imagine the various ethnic populations of the UK were a lot lower previously, so a) there wasn’t any particular ‘go-to’ location/estate, and b) they had to get to know Dave next door and Janet over the street unless they wanted to live a lonely existence. This may be miles off, I wasn’t around.

Nowadays people coming over from, as an example, Bangladesh, are far more likely to either know people over here, or know of a particular Bangladeshi community they could move to. This, I suppose, perpetuates the problem.

As I say, a lot of the above is guesswork but logically seems to make sense.
I think this is pretty much spot on tbh. It's no longer essential to learn the language or speak to anyone outside the community. You can get by without. Shouldn't be that way
 

Ashdown

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I’m merely musing here, but could it be because they needed to integrate more? I’d imagine the various ethnic populations of the UK were a lot lower previously, so a) there wasn’t any particular ‘go-to’ location/estate, and b) they had to get to know Dave next door and Janet over the street unless they wanted to live a lonely existence. This may be miles off, I wasn’t around.

Nowadays people coming over from, as an example, Bangladesh, are far more likely to either know people over here, or know of a particular Bangladeshi community they could move to. This, I suppose, perpetuates the problem.

As I say, a lot of the above is guesswork but logically seems to make sense.
You’re bang on and this if we are not careful will be the end of England and its culture as we know it. Not now, not next year but not too far into the future if they don’t halt the numbers.
 

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