clint van damme
Well-Known Member
Ultimately, Gentlemen, if you aren't seeing it by now you just aren't getting it.
AfD are the second party in Germany (and rising), RN have more seats than ever in France, prevented getting power only because the entirety of the left and centre banded together and surrendered candidates in seats to consolidate votes to keep RN out, the Irish are burning down migrant hotels and Reform came second in 98 seats in this country, Trump is holding rallies and Americans are waving signs for deportations (outside of dodging bullets).
Whatever side of the fence you land on in relation to the Liberal Progressive Western world view of the post-WW2 era, a reaction is taking place, and it is only gaining momentum. No amount of hypothetical utopian what-ifs on a football forum are changing that.
I wouldn't hold out any hope of this ride ending any time soon.
No amount of anything on a football forum is changing anything.
Whether it's US politics or either we should play 4 at the back!
But you're right, and I said it on the election thread, Starmer has to be perceived as getting it right on immigration.