Diogenes
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What were you doing on his garage?
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Not that I'm bothered with you daydreaming about my penis, but it says a lot about you that you jump to call people racist, whilst being quite happy to make homophobic statements.
Look at you now, you don't have the balls to talk about these issues properly so your making comments about motorcycles. It's classic cowardly Northen Wisdom, the same person who was too frightened to leave their house for two entire years, but lashed out because some people had a different opinion than you.
rob9872
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Homophobic. Reported.
Otis
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Don't bother. I was cancelled years ago.
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Deleted member 5849
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Lol. You really are a pathetic little man aren't you.
Go away, learn some things from places that aren't your feeble little echo chamber of other halfwits, and then try debating when you can understand words and can talk in more than clichés.
Until then don't act the innocent when people react to you being a c**t. It must be a sad little life when you have to desperately tag people for attention to fill your day with negativity, while having an ego inflated enough to think people care.
Still, you've given a good laugh I guess.
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Covkid1968#
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Lifted off my ex forces mates Facebook. Not sure if the link will copy and paste. But it feels a worthwhile cause to me……. If not allowed the delete Nick.
Lt.Col Mark Teeton RE, who was subject of a completely unwarranted knife attack yesterday was raising money for a combat stress charity.
If you can spare it, let’s support this gentleman and a very worthy charity and at least give this very grey cloud a silver lining.
Use the link below
events.combatstress.org.uk
Lt.Col Mark Teeton RE, who was subject of a completely unwarranted knife attack yesterday was raising money for a combat stress charity.
If you can spare it, let’s support this gentleman and a very worthy charity and at least give this very grey cloud a silver lining.
Use the link below
Mark Teeton
I'm taking part in the D-Day 44 Challenge to help raise funds for veterans’ mental health treatment – and I need your help! The D-Day 44 Challenge commemorates the 1944 Allied invasion of occupied France. I will be heading to Normandy, to race across its picturesque beaches, finishing at the...
events.combatstress.org.uk
We should be one community …’British ‘ …end of …..and herein lies the problem
Sick Boy
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As someone who lives abroad there’s no way that id want to renounce my identity.
I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
clint van damme
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I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
Nothing wrong with protesting, it's won us many of the privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.
And whileI don't really agree with the protests going on in Manchester currently you can't only defend the right to protest when you agree with the cause.
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It was going so wellI doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
Otis
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It's about respect.I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
Whenever I go abroad, I try and respect that country's laws and ways of life and customs and I always said, if I moved to another country to live, I would always try my very best to integrate and learn the language.
Most obviously do integrate here.l in the UK too.
Sky Blue Pete
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What is this British you talk about?!!! The one moment that we nailed it in peace time was the 2012 olympics that was all about unifying over a common purpose and not seeking some perceived notion of Britishness
In fact I’d say Britishness is all about
Pride
Tolerance
Respect
Love of the underdog
Sense of fair play
Rule of law
what are yours??
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British culture is surely a theatric and literary tradition, stately homes and castles, and afternoon tea?
San Francisco
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Totally agree Otis. We do exactly that in Spain
Yes mostly all those
rob9872
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clint van damme
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Totally agree Otis. We do exactly that in Spain
You might, plenty don't.
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tbf Benidorm is a fine example of local culture holding steadfast in the wake of fry-ups, beer drinking and Sun reading...
Otis
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You forgot Morris dancing and bread and dripping sandwiches.
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tbh Americanisation has been the biggest dilution of a British culture, and continues to be.
Sky Blue Pete
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I was thinking more McDonald's, Starbucks, and Harrison Ford!
Sky Blue Pete
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There the good ones
Sick Boy
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There are a lot of first and second generation immigrants here who are respectful of the local culture and don’t cause problems - as is the case with most immigrations in host countries.I doubt you live in a huge sprawl of a community of sick boys and demand your own rules and laws ?! I imagine you have to pay your way from the off, abide by local culture and don’t demand to have your own religious buildings erected.
I imagine that when event’s dont please you back in the UK you don’t take to the street and start protesting and disrupting other people’s lives ?!
I might be wrong of course, you might be a right pain in the arse
Nick
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Think that's what it comes down to, to be honest. Respecting the local culture.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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No one disagrees with that, and I don't think anyone has a problem with people who integrate, wherever they are from. The talking point is that there are many who are not doing this, and it's causing a problem in parts of the UK, and Europe. Speaking of the latter, I am curious how things are going to go in Paris the next few weeks despite the military operation. I know you are well travelled yourself, and that place is seriously struggling at the moment.
I’ve only been a few times, the truth is way more Spanish go to Benidorm than Brits. We did go and watch the Euro final for the atmosphere and then quickly flipped into the old town which was full of countless thousands of jubilant red shirts. We went and joined them in tapas alley for a late supper. It was all very friendly….and we have made the effort over the last 7 years to learn the language.
Otis
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I can say "no thank you," "where are the toilets" and "go f*ck yourself" in at least 12 languages.
Diogenes
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What about belief in the death penalty or criminality of same sex relationships?
They once were "British values" but no longer are. Values are clearly malleable and not something that you can reliably use to define a people.
Say, if in 30 years time the majority of British people become homophobic, would you accept that this is now a a British value or would you consider yourself no longer British as the majority held values that don't align with your own?
Sky Blue Pete
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Why I was asking
shmmeee
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Were those things specifically British?
I don’t go for the Apple (or meat) pie freedom and pride and respect. These are basics of every civilisation.
It’s more things like a sense of fair play (see queuing, justice for the underdog, etc) IMO. You notice going to other places a sense of chaos and lack of respect for the rules that we don’t have. Also IMO a refusal to take people too seriously. Taking the piss is a very British thing to not let people get too big for their boots.
Diogenes
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Let's use your idea about what British values are.
What happens if the government decides to import say, 5 million Italians and the Italians don't integrate, and within a few generations the Italians become a majority demographic in the UK.
The Italians aren't as big a fan as queuing and if you have ever tried to travel on or cross a road in Italy you will know how much they respect the rules and the chaos that ensues.
Now, by this point all these people of Italian origin are all British born, and hold British passports, meaning they are as British as any of us, yet they have values that you wouldn't previously have considered as British.
Could you really continue to say that those aspects that you hold to be British values are still British values, even though the majority of the population don't espouse them?
Would it not be fairer to say that the oppose is true, as the majority hold views that are contrary to those beliefs?
Sick Boy
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It’s always great travelling to the UK from Italy. Brits (usually upper middle class) queue in the wrong place for the gate and then decide that’s the queue. It’s always then a pleasure to push ahead of them where the queue actually is and hear the passive aggression start.