Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (25 Viewers)

[Jamesimus]

Fucking disgusting.

I can get on board with those people getting kicked to fuck.

But people driving cars around a roundabout really fast is just a step too bloody far!

 

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[Nick]

Nobody is justifying it. It’s just a stupid example of “two tier policing”and not realistic to expect the police to disperse them when they haven’t the numbers to stop mobs setting fire to hotels and smashing their way in.
Anyone carrying a weapon should be charged.

There are no police in sight, in Leeds they ran away. Completely different policing, isn't it?

 

[Saddlebrains]

Nobody is justifying it. It’s just a stupid example of “two tier policing”and not realistic to expect the police to disperse them when they haven’t the numbers to stop mobs setting fire to hotels and smashing their way in.
Anyone carrying a weapon should be charged.

Ah, well that's fine then, should just leave them to keep running riot while tooled up then

 

[Jamesimus]

Yeah, justifying it.

Justifying a load of blokes standing round, posturing in their local area to put the far right off from even turning up?Yeah okay, I am.

 

[Evo1883]

But people driving cars around a roundabout really fast is just a step too bloody far!

A crime is a crime , those were the EXACT words of kier starmer

There have been multiple crimes committed in Birmingham tonight

 

[covcity4life]

Sadly I can see somebody who has nothing to do with the trouble on either side getting killed because of it.

That will be the worst possible scenario for sure

Also the impact it could have on people moving forwards shouldn't be underestimated.

If far right attacked my car and best me up would I turn on white people?

I don't think I would at all but I know Asians who hold a grudge because of racism in past. And same goes for white people hit by Muslim gangs. Are they gonna decide you know what I don't like there lot etc

And their kids will grow up to hate like mum and dad etc. it's all quite sad

 

[Nick]

But people driving cars around a roundabout really fast is just a step too bloody far!

Yeah because that's all that's happening

Imagine somebody trying to justify that horrible c**t in Middlesbrough stopping cars to check on the colour of the person. Imagine if he then proceeded to smash the car up and people were saying "I get why he's done it".

 

[Jamesimus]

A crime is a crime , those were the EXACT words of kier starmer

Yes, bit of a silly statement too.

 

[Jamesimus]

Yeah because that's all that's happening

Imagine somebody trying to justify that horrible c**t in Middlesbrough stopping cars to check on the colour of the person. Imagine if he then proceeded to smash the car up and people were saying "I get why he's done it".

Yes, the only thing is, that is not justifiable.

There’s a difference, you still can’t see it though.

 

[David O'Day]

Nobody is justifying it. It’s just a stupid example of “two tier policing”and not realistic to expect the police to disperse them when they haven’t the numbers to stop mobs setting fire to hotels and smashing their way in.
Anyone carrying a weapon should be charged.

Aye, understanding someone's reasoning doesn't mean you agree with or are justifying anythng.

It's simply saying that "i understand why you think you need to do X", you can think that and still think something is unjustified and wrong.

And before anyone accuses me of any weird shit, I think anyone who uses any hurt to anyone or engages in any criminalactivity should face the full force of the law.

End of.

 

[Nick]

A crime is a crime , those were the EXACT words of kier starmer

There have been multiple crimes committed in Birmingham tonight

Its just as I said previously. Change the demographic and people's views change.

 

[clint van damme]

A crime is a crime , those were the EXACT words of kier starmer

There have been multiple crimes committed in Birmingham tonight

It's a fucking stupid, wreckless crime as well as we saw with the young lad in Radford how it can end.

 

[Nick]

Yes, the only thing is, that is not justifiable.

There’s a difference, you still can’t see it though.

There is no difference. The only difference is that you are trying to say it's not their fault.

How would it have gone down if somebody said "I can understand why that c**t in Middlesbrough was acting like he did stopping cars"

Nobody said that.

 

[Evo1883]

It's a fucking stupid, wreckless crime as well as we saw with the young lad in Radford how it can end.

How many years clint would I get for walking around tile hill with a sword

Gotta be 5 plus

 

[djr8369]

Ah, well that's fine then, should just leave them to keep running riot while tooled up then

I’d rather they were dispersed but as I said the police are struggling.

 

[Macca]

I'm fairly sure major UK cities will end up divided like Belfast in the height of the troubles within 10 years

 

[covcity4life]

How many years clint would I get for walking around tile hill with a sword

Gotta be 5 plus

Let's find out. Go do it. I'll show the coppers after it was a experiment like when saddlebrains tests his new sources!

 

[clint van damme]

How many years clint would I get for walking around tile hill with a sword

Gotta be 5 plus

I'm not sure if it's a mandatory sentence but I'd say at least 3, it would have to be wouldn't it?

 

[Nick]

How many years clint would I get for walking around tile hill with a sword

Gotta be 5 plus

I'm pretty sure the police would be on you within minutes.

 

[Evo1883]

Anyway back to not caring because I've been rather annoyed this last week , this country is a fucking mess and I wish I was born elsewhere

 

[Saddlebrains]

I’d rather they were dispersed but as I said the police are struggling.

Innocent people having a beer now being attacked. Still guess what?

NO COPPERS

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

Did you see the guy In the St George’s shirt that raided greggs for some gingerbread men , fucker deserved locking up he left a whole tray of steak bakes

 

[Nick]

I’d rather they were dispersed but as I said the police are struggling.

Amazing how it's only a struggle so no police can attend sometimes, same happened in Leeds.

 

[David O'Day]

Away from the whataboutery, that fundraiser that was trying to raise a few hundred quid for a few new books for that library has raised over 90 grand so far.

 

[Jamesimus]

There is no difference. The only difference is that you are trying to say it's not their fault.

That’s not what I’m trying to say at all. There is a difference between understanding a reason for someone doing something, and it being someone’s fault. Do I understand why people are carrying weapons to defend themselves? Yes. Is that their fault? Yes.

And yes, there is a difference. The person in Middlesbrough was a racist. Not an interest in protecting his community at all - although he’d probably say that was his reasoning, we all know that’s not the case.

 

[Nick]

Innocent people having a beer now being attacked. Still guess what?

NO COPPERS

Police cuts. Funding, Tories etc etc.

 

[David O'Day]

Did you see the guy In the St George’s shirt that raided greggs for some gingerbread men , fucker deserved locking up he left a whole tray of steak bakes

he also did lush and O2 andis now locked up

 

[djr8369]

Amazing how it's only a struggle so no police can attend sometimes, same happened in Leeds.

Ok Nick

 

[covcity4life]

Innocent people having a beer now being attacked. Still guess what?

NO COPPERS

Full on race war. Nice to see obv it's not all of them and the people recording are angry

Police need to be there asap.

This has become far right Vs Muslims.

No one else seems to be involved at all

 

[Nick]

That’s not what I’m trying to say at all. There is a difference between understanding a reason for someone doing something, and it being someone’s fault. Do I understand why people are carrying weapons to defend themselves? Yes. Is that their fault? Yes.

And yes, there is a difference. The person in Middlesbrough was a racist. Not an interest in protecting his community at all - although he’d probably say that was his reasoning, we all know that’s not the case.

So it's not racist that "apparently" white people are getting their cars smashed up or somebody gets their head stamped on and called a "white c**t"?

Personally, I think both are racist and both cunts. I'm not trying to say I understand either as that is just sympathetic to it.

 

[djr8369]

Innocent people having a beer now being attacked. Still guess what?

NO COPPERS

Do you genuinely think the police won’t attend this situation out of choice?

 

[Nick]

Ok Nick

Ok so I'm wrong? Loads of invisible police knocking about.

 

[Nick]

Do you genuinely think the police won’t attend this situation out of choice?

Well they aren't attending, are they? Who's stopping them?

 

[Evo1883]

No police

 

[Sky_Blue_Daz]

he also did lush and O2 andis now locked up

To be fair that’s the 3 shops I go to on Christmas Eve