Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (28 Viewers)

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Now saying "How many mosques have been attacked?" as if that somehow proves that there aren't people out there who want to attack mosques.

But if they haven't been attacked that says something.
If someone says Sunderland fans are hell bent on destroying Jimmy Hill's statue but they don't do it that says something.

 

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[Nick]

Your bizarre ranting about the things being "pushed" and comparing it to Covid, what the fuck are you on about?

Now saying "How many mosques have been attacked?" as if that somehow proves that there aren't people out there who want to attack mosques.

I don't even know what your point is? Is it denial that there are people with far right views?

I am asking how many mosques have been attacked, I mean somebody could just answer the question. I have seen the wall being smashed in Southport.

Is it really that hard to understand about things being "pushed" and the same during COVID? The Muslim community have had it drilled that the "EDL are coming", yesterday the whole day all over the media / police etc was as if there was a takeover of Nazis / "The fash" but nobody has really seen them.

Far from denying there are people with horrible views, it's a simple question after so many people have pushed things I am just looking at things logically.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I am asking how many mosques have been attacked, I mean somebody could just answer the question. I have seen the wall being smashed in Southport.

Is it really that hard to understand about things being "pushed" and the same during COVID? The Muslim community have had it drilled that the "EDL are coming", yesterday the whole day all over the media / police etc was as if there was a takeover of Nazis / "The fash" but nobody has really seen them.

Far from denying there are people with horrible views, it's a simple question after so many people have pushed things I am just looking at things logically.

Why do you think anybody on here has that information?

How is it the same as covid? What was being "pushed" then? Was it not a lethal disease that killed a poster on here then?

 

[David O'Day]

You can say anything you want about "debate", "challenging peoples views" etc but surely we should have explain why something posted on the twitter of out and unashamed nazis is wrong. They are nazis the default setting is fuck them they are wrong,

Britain First tweets are fine on here now it seems.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

But if they haven't been attacked that is certainly telling .

I was going to respond that yes, it does indeed show that this country is still tolerant but... not attacking mosques as a bar for tolerance is a pretty low bar!

Hopefully it does show that most people have enough respect for others to treat them as people, not as ideological tools to feed their own insecurities and racism.

 

[Nick]

Why do you think anybody on here has that information?

How is it the same as covid? What was being "pushed" then? Was it not a lethal disease that killed a poster on here then?

It would be all over social media, much like when it was in Southport and every other thing that has gone on.

Did you really miss the stuff being pushed and the behavioural science going on during COVID? I don't mean the actual virus it's self, Im far from saying "It didn't exist". I am saying the way messages were drilled into people. All day every day it was people who didn't have a vaccine were responsible for deaths. It was people pitted against people all day every day in the media.

It was very similar to yesterday where everything was "the organised far right nazi fash" and a hell of a lot of pointless scare mongering.

 

[skybluetony176]

Must be more of that 2 tier policing the snowflakes keep whining about.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I was going to respond that yes, it does indeed show that this country is still tolerant but... not attacking mosques as a bar for tolerance is a pretty low bar!

Hopefully it does show that most people have enough respect for others to treat them as people, not as ideological tools to feed their own insecurities and racism.

But it's important in the context of claims that mosques were at serious risk of attack. Otherwise I agree. It's like saying the world is a good place because i wasn't robbed today.

 

[Nick]

But it's important in the context of claims that mosques were at serious risk of attack. Otherwise I agree. It's like saying the world is a good place because i wasn't robbed today.

No, it's in the context of people saying how mosques were being attacked as well and that the EDL were coming.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It would be all over social media, much like when it was in Southport and every other thing that has gone on.

Did you really miss the stuff being pushed and the behavioural science going on during COVID? I don't mean the actual virus it's self, Im far from saying "It didn't exist". I am saying the way messages were drilled into people. All day every day it was people who didn't have a vaccine were responsible for deaths. It was people pitted against people all day every day in the media.

It was very similar to yesterday where everything was "the organised far right nazi fash" and a hell of a lot of pointless scare mongering.

Social media of course is a brilliant source. The police use that as their sole means of intelligence.

 

[Johnnythespider]

I am asking how many mosques have been attacked, I mean somebody could just answer the question. I have seen the wall being smashed in Southport.

Is it really that hard to understand about things being "pushed" and the same during COVID? The Muslim community have had it drilled that the "EDL are coming", yesterday the whole day all over the media / police etc was as if there was a takeover of Nazis / "The fash" but nobody has really seen them.

Far from denying there are people with horrible views, it's a simple question after so many people have pushed things I am just looking at things logically.

I couldn't tell you how many in the last week but there are reports online that show 35% of mosques suffer at least one religiously motivated attack each year, so I don't think they've had anything drilled into them about the edl as it seems to be a pretty regular occurrence

 

[Nick]

Social media of course is a brilliant source. The police use that as their sole means of intelligence.

OK so it's a cover up of mosques being attacked then? People arent speaking out about it in the press like the one in southport?

It's all some underground network for the thousands of organised nazis that were due out to take over last night?

I'm not on about racist cunts pissed up giving it loads. Im on about the organised things like was said yesterday (although the people who turned up were very organised).

 

[skybluetony176]

In total, how many mosques have been attacked over the last week? (Aside from the Southport one).

Can you show me some videos of all of the organised nazi / fash in action smashing up mosques? (as opposed to pissed up, absolute cunts who are shouting racist thing).

We have seen plenty of videos of people about ready to kill nazis but where are they?

I'm talking organisation, tactical etc like it was made out yesterday.

The irony is you actually believe what you posted and everybody else is mental.

Sounds like you want to get into a discussion about whether it’s pronounced potato or potato. The fact that racist are all a bit snowflakey these days and get upset at being called Nazi’s and fascists in doesn’t mean we should indulge them and not call them Nazi’s and fascists. I miss the good old days when they used to wear the tags with pride.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

You can say anything you want about "debate", "challenging peoples views" etc but surely we should have explain why something posted on the twitter of out and unashamed nazis is wrong. They are nazis the default setting is fuck them they are wrong,

Britain First tweets are fine on here now it seems.

So are they fascists or Nazis or don't you know the difference ? I have seen Israeli flags amongst the far right violence like I saw Palestinian flags yesterday amongst the counter demos.
They're far right fascists but they're not Nazis. Do your basic research.

 

[fernandopartridge]

OK so it's a cover up of mosques being attacked then? People arent speaking out about it in the press like the one in southport?

It's all some underground network for the thousands of organised nazis that were due out to take over last night?

I'm not on about racist cunts pissed up giving it loads. Im on about the organised things like was said yesterday (although the people who turned up were very organised).

Your argument seems to be that if something didn't happen it was never going to happen? Rather than the reality which is probably a mix of factors including but not limited to:

1. Those involved in Liverpool, Sunderland and elsewhere being sent down rapidly
2. The police telling the public that they were ready
3. The loss of 'momentum' from last week

 

[Nick]

Your argument seems to be that if something didn't happen it was never going to happen? Rather than the reality which is probably a mix of factors including but not limited to:

1. Those involved in Liverpool, Sunderland and elsewhere being sent down rapidly
2. The police telling the public that they were ready
3. The loss of 'momentum' from last week

Or maybe the list from Telegram or whatever it was they were all on about was....bollocks.

Did the army of nazis get told to stand down?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Or maybe the list from Telegram or whatever it was they were all on about was....bollocks.

Did the army of nazis get told to stand down?

Given that the police are all over the far left and the far right they will have intelligence sources beyond the telegram list you keep going on about. Not that they're going to say publicly for obvious reasons.

 

[Nick]

Given that the police are all over the far left and the far right they will have intelligence sources beyond the telegram list you keep going on about. Not that they're going to say publicly for obvious reasons.

It was obvious yesterday that nothing was going to happen..They were still trying to scaremonger everybody and telling people to close their businesses etc.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It was obvious yesterday that nothing was going to happen..They were still trying to scaremonger everybody and telling people to close their businesses etc.

OK Nick, it was obvious. I think they should just phone you next time there is potential for large scale disorder at any event and ask for your view on it.

 

[tisza]

It's a start. Hopefully they'll be following up on all these pictures of people with machetes/large knives in the street. They're after people throwing bricks so offensive weapons in public should be included as well. Have to get these weapons off the streets for the good of everyone

 

[Nick]

Right, will lock this for now and I know I am as bad as any.

Go out, have a walk, do a good deed for somebody! It will help (not even being patronising).