Oxford player ratings (2 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I think that's probably a change in coaching and want's of an impatient fan base TBF,for one so solid last season it's the on thing I can think of,or his legs are going which I don't think is the case.
Give it five games I think it be ironed out.

Either way this is Bidwell’s last season here.

 

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[Evo1883]

Eccles passing through the lines at times was sensational helped by rudoni and others finding space

Don't agree Pete, thought he was very safe all game

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Don't agree Pete, thought he was very safe all game

That’s what I mean I think depending on one’s attitude to torp or eccles all the errors were one or the other they weren’t and all the excellent play was one or other they weren’t

 

[larry_david]

Haven't read the thread but thought Palmer did well. He made two excellent defending splitting passes which should have resulted in better

 

[skybluegod]

I think da Silva has started the season pretty well... Looked tidy when he came on last night and looked against Bristol on Tuesday. I expect he may start next week again.

 

[stevefloyd]

CWR get them mixed up all the time.

To be fair they get Haji and Torp mixed up along with others all the time, Clive even called Stoke Sunderland at one point

 

[Otis]

You’ve misread what I said

Yup.



That'll learn me to put my reading glasses on, rather than my distance ones to read.

 

[skyblue025]

I'd go 7s all round bar Wright and MVE who get 8-9

This. Not sure what people want or are expecting. We played exciting pacey football last night, created chance after chance, had 26 attempts at goal and scored 3.
Their keeper was their MOM yet people complaining like we were poor and lucky to win. I was thoroughly entertained.

 

[SkyBlueGuy]

You did see their second? He got done twice in the build up and then played the lad onside. I like Torp, he’s got some real quality on the ball, but he’s got to adapt to the championship.

I spotted that too. He gambled in the player cutting back and got it wrong (twice) and basically let the player run past him. Need to be more alert to the offside for their goal too.

 

[steve101]

For the second goal Bidwell checked over his shoulder a few times to be aware of the Oxford player but then got drawn beneath the ball, which he didn't need to do, leaving the guy in acres of space. He did something very similar in an earlier game. I can't imagine that has been a coaching decision, just poor decision making. Generally, I would say decision making is one of his strengths. Hopefully just a glitch.

 

[Lee77]

I thought Torp done well last night, he broke up play really well which I don't see as his position. Eccles put himself about a bit too. Our midfield was certainly an improvement on last week that's for sure.
I love Rudoni already, always shows for the ball and drives us forward with intent. Important player for us already.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Big talk for a loser that’s been bullied so bad they had to make a new account

Treat people with kindness

 

[stevefloyd]

We were not lucky last night we were bloody great at times, a couple of stupid errors apart, we made our own luck and totally bossed them. Eccles and Torp had their moments but generally controlled the midfield, confidence and belief is growing within the team and hopefully we get a couple of loan/signings to add to the squad and get captain sick note back in the fray we can start cruising...I will now leave you to argue and point score against yourselves .....AGAIN

 

[PVA]

Quite shocked to see so many didn't rate torp .. thought he was very good , Eccles was the biggest problem in midfield .

Mr 4 yard pass never look forward never take a risk ... drove me mad

I thought they both had good games.

Disagree with your last line though. Mr 4 yard pass had the (joint) most number of progressive passes of anyone and in terms of progressive passing distance had the most of anyone in the front six (and twice as many as Torp).

 

[Evo1883]

I thought they both had good games.

Disagree with your last line though. Mr 4 yard pass had the (joint) most number of progressive passes of anyone and in terms of progressive passing distance had the most of anyone in the front six (and twice as many as Torp).

That could also include a pass 10 yards under zero pressure and into 10 yards of space with nobody around the receiver.. point is josh Eccles persistently played the way he was facing, rarely took the ball onto his back foot to move it forward at the right time slowing us down massively and certainly missed many opportunities to play the ball In dangerous areas lacking the confidence to try play the ball which was a bit more brave.

The 4 yard pass stat perfectly summed up his evening

 

[PVA]

The 4 yard pass stat perfectly summed up his evening

I don't think so given he made over 1200 yards of passes at an average of 19 yards per pass.

33% of those were progressive passes, Torp made only 17% progressive passes.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but the stats say the opposite.

 

[covcity4life]

Torp getting a 5 lol

Lati too. Maybe he really is blind?

 

[Evo1883]

I don't think so given he made over 1200 yards of passes at an average of 19 yards per pass.

33% of those were progressive passes, Torp made only 17% progressive passes.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but the stats say the opposite.

The stats also suggests Eccles played more forward passes than Jack rudoni .. unfortunately for the stats most of us with eyes can see what's being played infront of us

Stats do not and never will account for situations nor do they account for wether players are under pressure etc etc etc .

Josh eccles often failed to see the pass that would have got us forward quicker , he failed to play rudoni in about 7 times alone

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Dovin 4

MVE 9
Lati 5
Binks 5
Bidwell 5

Torp 2
Eccles 5

Sakamoto 6
Rudoni 5
Wright 8

Simms 6

KangaBoosh

 

[PVA]

The stats also suggests Eccles played more forward passes than Jack rudoni .. unfortunately for the stats most of us with eyes can see what's being played infront of us

Stats do not and never will account for situations nor do they account for wether players are under pressure etc etc etc .

Josh eccles often failed to see the pass that would have got us forward quicker , he failed to play rudoni in about 7 times alone

Eccles played the same number of forward passes as Rudoni. Eccles obviously had a higher distance of forward passes because he plays in a deeper position.

Of course I agree with you that stats don't tell the whole story and don't account for whether a player was under pressure and so on.

But to me they show that Eccles was comfortably the more progressive of the two midfielders.

 

[wingy]

That could also include a pass 10 yards under zero pressure and into 10 yards of space with nobody around the receiver.. point is josh Eccles persistently played the way he was facing, rarely took the ball onto his back foot to move it forward at the right time slowing us down massively and certainly missed many opportunities to play the ball In dangerous areas lacking the confidence to try play the ball which was a bit more brave.

The 4 yard pass stat perfectly summed up his evening

I think it's a criticism of most lads in a way,the belief to reverse the play,play safe predictable passes and have the opponents pants down became apparent to me in last night's first half.

 

[Evo1883]

Eccles played the same number of forward passes as Rudoni. Eccles obviously had a higher distance of forward passes because he plays in a deeper position.

Of course I agree with you that stats don't tell the whole story and don't account for whether a player was under pressure and so on.

But to me they show that Eccles was comfortably the more progressive of the two midfielders.

I don't have a player heat map infront of me , but for me torp plays slightly higher in tighter spaces (im sure you can correct me ), not as simple as playing 5 yards infront of the back line used to recycle the ball

 

[Blind-Faith]

Eccles passing through the lines at times was sensational helped by rudoni and others finding space

100% this. Massive improvement on last season already, he needs to keep this side of his game up as it really does help us

 

[Grendel]

The stats also suggests Eccles played more forward passes than Jack rudoni .. unfortunately for the stats most of us with eyes can see what's being played infront of us

Stats do not and never will account for situations nor do they account for wether players are under pressure etc etc etc .

Josh eccles often failed to see the pass that would have got us forward quicker , he failed to play rudoni in about 7 times alone

To be fair to him I like me and you he stares at stats and doesn’t attend matches

 

[speedie87]

Dovin 6
mve 9
lati 7
binks 7
bidwell 6
eccles 7
torp 6
rudoni 8
sakamoto 7
simms 6
wright 9

 

[blunted]

Dovin had no chance with the goals. Great distribution.
MVE played really well and scored a great goal.
Hadji Wright was awesome but should have tried a shot on occasions when he tried to dribble in the area. MOM.
Simms had an assist for us and them. Worked hard but had a bit of an off day.
Torp played well apart from the second goal where he should have stopped the cross then played their scorer onside. Unlucky as their first goal came from a challenge by Torp that was not a foul.
Rest played well along with the subs. Special mention for JDS who gets a lot of stick on here. He wasn't on long but did every thing well.
Are our midfield ever going to score?

 

[WestEndAgro]

Listening to 5Live this morning, it's as if nothing exists outside the Prem. Not the briefest mention! Twats

does beg the question why you are listening to 5live?

 

[OffenhamSkyBlue]

Just watched the Sky highlights back at their first goal - Binks not challenging for the header when the ball first came in was the primary mistake, but then Simms was waiting for it to bounce and missed his kick, when he should have taken one pace forward and got his head on it. Poor all round - but the shot was really well placed.

 

[Otis]

Just watched the Sky highlights back at their first goal - Binks not challenging for the header when the ball first came in was the primary mistake, but then Simms was waiting for it to bounce and missed his kick, when he should have taken one pace forward and got his head on it. Poor all round - but the shot was really well placed.

It was a very freaky goal, because it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place, then the delivery from the free kick was actually very poor and then the ball bounced off Simms' shins.

We had lots of chances to clear it though.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was a very freaky goal, because it shouldn't have been a free kick in the first place, then the delivery from the free kick was actually very poor and then the ball bounced off Simms' shins.

We had lots of chances to clear it though.

The bouncing off Simms happened from him trying to take a touch instead of booting it clear. Which is another reason against bringing back centre forwards for defensive duties.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The bouncing off Simms happened from him trying to take a touch instead of booting it clear. Which is another reason against bringing back centre forwards for defensive duties.

Yep

 

[PVA]

To be fair to him I like me and you he stares at stats and doesn’t attend matches

We know you like yourself.

And I do attend matches, I don't know why you keep this bizarre shtick up.

 

[SBAndy]

The bouncing off Simms happened from him trying to take a touch instead of booting it clear. Which is another reason against bringing back centre forwards for defensive duties.

I’m nowhere near as offended as you are at the idea of having everyone back for corners/defensive set pieces (and assume part of the thinking is to give opportunity for a quick break), but someone of Simms’ nature should be front post at corners and in the wall for a FK. Wouldn’t even say he’s that good in the air.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’m nowhere near as offended as you are at the idea of having everyone back for corners/defensive set pieces (and assume part of the thinking is to give opportunity for a quick break), but someone of Simms’ nature should be front post at corners and in the wall for a FK. Wouldn’t even say he’s that good in the air.

Fair enough. Though I think if you want a quick counter, having a teammate or two already advanced up the pitch, as opposed to having everyone in the ‘chasing pack’ running up it would be easier. That and allowing the other team to pack the box works in their favour from an attacking perspective.

 

[procdoc]

I’m with Brighton on the defending set pieces and having everyone back. If you clear the ball it’s just going to come straight back every time