Match Thread Coventry City - Swansea City Match Thread - Saturday 21st Sep (36 Viewers)

[Ashdown]

As for over £4 million for Mason Clarke ? Really , he’s like a modern day Leigh Jenkinson

 

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[Evo1883]

We went backwards.

Its hardly throwing him under the bus to point things out today.

The seasons just started

 

[Cov98]

At the end of the day, no man is bigger than the club.

I love Robins and he's been the best manager we've had since Jimmy Hill and a club legend who deserves a statue next to him.

These type of performances cannot continue. We look like we have no idea how to execute a game plan, and it's just sloppy and lethargic.
I don't want Robins to go, I'd love for him to take us up to the prem so he can say he went all the way with us. The issue is, we'll be lucky to finish much higher than 15th as it stands and there's no way Wright, MVE, Simms, Sheaf or any of our top players stay if that's where we finish.

At the end of the day, would you take Robins here next season after finishing 15th and losing our best players or a change and possibly moving up the table and playing to our potential?
Every time this season I've thought a good performance would be the kickstart the following game has been a new level of shite.

I hope Robins turns it around and we end up in the playoffs again, I really do. But we have to look at it from a club perspective at this point.
I'm not saying he should be sacked tomorrow but say by Christmas we're still in around the bottom, what do we do?

 

[The Philosopher]

I wonder how much stat gathering is affecting players.

“you got 63.7% completed passes player x”

Player “x” thinks “ill get more credit for short safe passes backwards”.

 

[Evo1883]

We went backwards.

Its hardly throwing him under the bus to point things out today.

Point things out by all means , the talk of change are simply ridiculous and frankly premature

 

[mark82]

January

Nope, definitely not. 3 to 5 games, we need to see things turn round. Wait until January it's a lost season and we lose the likes of MVE, Sheaf and maybe others.

 

[Nick]

The seasons just started

And he's already talking about players being tired

 

[skybluecam]

How good is Robins tactically though?

I’m starting to think we need a manager who is ready and able to implement a truly modern tactical system. Some of the decisions Robins is making really don’t suggest he has a consistent tactical idea.

 

[Evo1883]

£30m for 9th in the Championship isn’t good.

Hold on let's not change the record, I was angrier that everybody last season but was told we tailed off because of a small squad and the cup run .. now fans are saying fuck that we should've finished top6 and a cup semi final with tavares coming on away at Southampton?

Wild

 

[Macca]

He will be here forever

With Madders as assistant and Sheffers head coach. All singing Twist and Shout while 5-0 down

 

[fatso]

We can't keep starting seasons badly. We're going to lose some of these players next year. If we don't do it this year I suspect our chance has passed and we'll become another lower midtable team.

We're already there mate!

 

[clint van damme]

But we've not had a bad season yet in 7 .. expectations have been met and now fans want him gone again because of a few bad games without our captain etc ? Crazy mindset

After our last couple of seasons bad starts I've predicted we'll turn it round, I don't see it this season.
There's a weakness at the heart of this squad.

But yeah, we've had a great 7 seasons, he deserves to at least see this one out.

 

[steve101]

Because we now have a coaching squad almost as big as our playing squad, it would cost a fortune to sack the lot. If Robins did go, any manager with pedigree would want to bring in their own backroom staff surely.

 

[Evo1883]

After our last couple of seasons bad starts I've predicted we'll turn it round, I don't see it this season.
There's a weakness at the heart of this squad.

But yeah, we've had a great 7 seasons, he deserves to at least see this one out.

We haven't even played a game with poppadom legs yet

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We finished 9th and reached the fa cup semi final .. that's not a bad season at all

Look at what you wrote about Southgate who objectively also took us further than nearly every other England manager.

 

[Bugsy]

We haven't had a bad season under Robins and fans are after throwing him under the bus .. the only way it gets bettwr with anybody else is top 6 consistently and a promotion .

It's mental

Fickle fuckers. There has been a lot of change behind the scenes as I said not long ago, just get behind and support the lads and have fun whatever will be will be, I believe it will click sooner rather than later as we have witnessed the performance which they are capable of, today was shit but they are only human and everyone has bad days from time to time, wasn't so long ago everyone was hailing Robins, he's a great manager and gets the pludits from many who have played professionally. Not many managers would have done what robins has done for us. If it wasn't for Robins we would be dissolved by now.

 

[Boicey]

If we are near the relegation zone in January, Robins will be sacked.
My real concern is actually we have pissed all the money on a lot of oddball and/or bang average players.

 

[Evo1883]

Look at what you wrote about Southgate who objectively also took us further than nearly every other England manager.

Yes but Robins has generally had us playing some very good football over the years .. I've been everywhere with them and it's been brilliant largely.

Southgate was a boring c**t from the get go

 

[mark82]

We're already there mate!

There's time to turn it down yet but we've got to go on a damn good run now.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

How good is Robins tactically though?

I’m starting to think we need a manager who is ready and able to implement a truly modern tactical system. Some of the decisions Robins is making really don’t suggest he has a consistent tactical idea.

Curiously who would you look at realistically?

 

[TomRad85]

Last night: How did we lose to this awful Stoke team?
Today: Oh right, yes. That's how.
We're shite.

 

[mark82]

Leeds, Blackburn must win games now.

 

[Sick Boy]

I wonder how much stat gathering is affecting players.

“you got 63.7% completed passes player x”

Player “x” thinks “ill get more credit for short safe passes backwards”.

 

[Evo1883]

Well look we have an awful fixture next week away at Leeds so to expect a win there is generally a big ask .

It is what it is

 

[Ashdown]

We have gone backwards badly, the players brought in have been bang average. The difference between what we have gained and what we have lost is vast.

 

[clint van damme]

We haven't even played a game with poppadom legs yet

And the fact you're referring to him as a flour based Indian snack says it all!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I agree with that. He's still got a lot of goodwill in the bank for me

Same hugely in positive

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes but Robins has generally had us playing some very good football over the years .. I've been everywhere with them and it's been brilliant largely.

Southgate was a boring c**t from the get go

What we’re seeing now is the same as what Southgate served up. If it carries on…

 

[Macca]

We haven't even played a game with poppadom legs yet

Might even get 10 games off him before he shatters into a million bits

 

[jto123]

No mate. The problem isn’t depth in midfield. We have plenty of that. The problem is we’re tactically inept, unmotivated and defensively useless.

We have plenty of depth in midfield haha. You’ve lost me there.

 

[Para1140]

Get Starmer in hes promised to get up promoted

 

[mark82]

Well look we have an awful fixture next week away at Leeds so to expect a win there is generally a big ask .

It is what it is

They've been asking people to buy premier league packages, support the club. This has happened but we're not seeing results on the pitch. We've spent plenty the last couple of years and have good players (although a midfielder or two short). There's no real excuse.

 

[Evo1883]

What we’re seeing now is the same as what Southgate served up. If it carries on…

It's not the same for me

 

[Offhegoes]

Few points

1. Team. Same starting 11 from Weds. seriously WTF. MVE was at half pace most of the game. Haji Wright either knackered or carrying a knock. Kitchimg and Dasilva were excellent against Watford but don’t start. Why didn’t he give Sheaf 45 mins? Simms on the bench. I just can’t fathom the argument for that lineup.
2. We were well off our game today. We grinded out some chances but 1-2 flatters us.. We have lost to Stoke. Norwich and Swansea, who all looked average at best
3. Referee. Worst I’ve seen in years.
4. Swansea - boring team. Knocking it around their defenders, time wasting from the start.
5. Mason-Clark - Looks clumsy, and out of his depth to be honest. Allen atrocious before his injury.
6. Rudoni & Eccles played well

 

[Macca]

We have gone backwards badly, the players brought in have been bang average. The difference between what we have gained and what we have lost is vast.

Simms, Wright, Torp, EMC all examples