Robins will carry the can (3 Viewers)

[Marty]

Who’s dross?

Dovin, Rudoni & Bassette look like good additions individually.

BTA would be fine as a rotation player.

Mason-Clark is the only one that looks worryingly bad.

EMC is struggling badly but will come good imo, he was excellent for Peterborough and could turn defenders inside out in league one.

 

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[Matt smith]

We do. Short in midfield as we all know but way way better than the performances are showing right now.

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Yeah agreed, the new coaches have been here 3 months and I have no idea what our style of play is, so what are they doing Monday to Friday?

We should have brought in a genuine number 2.

 

[shmmeee]

Correct, the go to for most fans at times like this is to start having a little moan about the manager, which is fair enough imo. But Robins is deemed untouchable by many so King gets it instead.

I don’t think that’s fair. The feeling more is that King has made some questionable changes behind the scenes that have lead to a lack of leadership along with the fact that he hasn’t proven he can pick a footballing appointment.

 

[Nuskyblue]

We beat both Leicester and Leeds this year but I agree that something in wrong.

Could file those 2 games in the same envelope of the FA cup games, they're both big games that sort of play themselves in a weird way.

There seems to be a motivation/application issue.

 

[nicksar]

Yeh weird, everyone going for King for some reason. He's given Robins more than he'd have ever dreamed of under previous ownership.

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The amount of stick King is getting on the forum is very odd, only on Thursday (or Friday) Robins was saying how much he likes working under Doug....Doug King doesn't coach or pick the team, that's down to Robins and his coaching team....and this pre-planned substitute malarkey (if true) is nonsensical.
It's little wonder some of the players aren't happy with that.

 

[alfielloyd]

We’re still only 6 games in - the obvious issues are there and they probably don’t have an overnight fix.

This panicking and writing off the players and MR is becoming an annual event now.

However, if we do not start the season until November getting promoted is almost impossible.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

However, if we do not start the season until November getting promoted is almost impossible.

The team isn’t good enough for promotion, the midfield and defence is particularly off the pace.

The team should be good enough for top 6.

 

[Boicey]

I think most will be very good for us, some will be mediocre... that's normal isn't it? Tearing down new signings is completely pointless, no one knows what they are doing on the pitch, it's a complete mess top to bottom. But it's my belief we still have a good collection of players.

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What's not normal is saying 'they look excellent' when they haven't and we've played shit.
That's just bizarre.
A bit of common sense realism isnt 'tearing' anyone down.

 

[Cally Fedora]

None of them have been 'excellent'.
Rudoni has done decent the last 2 games, Bassette showed some promise without scoring, BTA average at best, EMC poor.
Last seasons signings Collins, Kitching cant get a game, Simms being benched for a 19 year old, Wright subbed at half time, Saka off his game this year.
Who do you think have been EXCELLENT during our terrible games this year??

Crazy talk I’m afraid. From last years intake Simms, Wright, MvE and Sakamoto have been excellent. No doubt about it. This year Rudoni and Bassette have been. Thomas, Kitching and Dovin have been good too. I’ll give you that there is a doubt about Torp and EMC. I think EMC will be fine.

 

[SAJ]

Robins is responsible for some of the issues you can't lay everything at his feet.

Team selection/tactics/in game management: all on Robins

Failure to sign CM: on King

Failure to sign any loans: King

New coaching system: seemingly Not MRs decision - so probably King/performance director

Lack of No2: as above, what even happened with that? At one point sounded like they were about to announce a new no2 and then just nothing?

Player attitude: this is on the players - a manager should motivate them but they are supposed to be professionals

Poor signings (let's be honest some of those we brought in are dross): MR repeatedly says signings are out of his hands not so that's on King.

Looking at all the issues that aren't working or have gone belly up, so much of it is nothing to do with MR (which is even more worrying long term). King has to take most of the responsibility for what looks like will be the failure of Op Premiership 2.0.

Who would you trust more the guy who has spent 7 years continually improving and taking us up through the leagues, or the person who said he's never even been to a game before running the club? I am one of those who feels we may be reaching a ceiling with MR, but he has been let down massively by others.

It's a moot point though, because whoevers fault it is, MR will carry the can for it. King won't sack himself, the backroom is too huge to shift on, he isn't going to bring AV back or get rid of the "performance director". Robins will pay the price for everyone's mistakes.

When we got the money for Vic/Hamer they should have tempered expectations and gone down the route of "this money is going to stabilise the club" rather than whipping everyone up into a frenzy.

In truth, mid table with outside chance of a playoff challenge under MR and a stable club would have been a success compared to where we have come from. The expectations now though deem that to be a failure, it's promotion or bust.

We got high on the fumes of success with the recent Wembley visits etc and we've shit the bed and fucked everything that made us successful.

What shit that is.
How do you know if Kings fault we didn’t sign the players they wanted. It could be they preferred the other offers they were given. You could quite easily blame the recruitment team in that they had identified other players should that happen, we don’t know.
King is undoubtedly to blame for many things but it’s pure speculation to say he is at fault for that.
What dross have we signed?
How do you know the coaching system change is the performance director or King. In Vivash’s interview he suggested at time he and Robins didn’t agree. It could be something was said that caused the split. We may never know.

 

[Diogenes]

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What shit that is.
How do you know if Kings fault we didn’t sign the players they wanted. It could be they preferred the other offers they were given. You could quite easily blame the recruitment team in that they had identified other players should that happen, we don’t know.
King is undoubtedly to blame for many things but it’s pure speculation to say he is at fault for that.
What dross have we signed?
How do you know the coaching system change is the performance director or King. In Vivash’s interview he suggested at time he and Robins didn’t agree. It could be something was said that caused the split. We may never know.

Talk about missing the point..

 

[baldy]

EMC is struggling badly but will come good imo, he was excellent for Peterborough and could turn defenders inside out in league one.

Yes...in league one