Josh eccles (8 Viewers)

stevefloyd

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Have to say he has been very good just lately maybe he is better than most of us think including me
 

PVA

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Gone up a level this year…again. Range of passing has improved. Him, Sheaf and Rudoni is a very good midfield 3 at this level. Torp as backup. Allen making the teas.



Actually you could see this on the latest City Unseen:



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TomRad85

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His shooting is crap. Has he ever scored a non-deflected goal for us?
Yeh i agree, his shooting needs to be a lot better. He's only scored 2 goals hasn't he? The one against Blues and the deflected effort vs QPR.
 

Calista

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Yeh i agree, his shooting needs to be a lot better. He's only scored 2 goals hasn't he? The one against Blues and the deflected effort vs QPR.
It's not because he can't strike a ball though. He seems to lose composure when shooting chances arise. Sheaf's the same 🤷‍♂️
Should be getting at least 5 each every year IMO
 

Skybluekyle

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I can't wax lyrical enough about Eccles, to be honest.

He reads the game superbly, and playing him alongside Sheaf raises his game to a different level, for sure.

Sheaf and Eccles, through my sky blue tinted glasses, is up there as one of the best pairings in the league
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I can't wax lyrical enough about Eccles, to be honest.

He reads the game superbly, and playing him alongside Sheaf raises his game to a different level, for sure.

Sheaf and Eccles, through my sky blue tinted glasses, is up there as one of the best pairings in the league
I don’t think that pairing is and with all due respect to them both, our results against the the best teams in the league last season speaks for itself. It’s not a good thing either.

Against Leeds we looked awful and one of those battlegrounds we lost was in midfield.
 

Skybluekyle

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I don’t think that pairing is and with all due respect to them both, our results against the the best teams in the league last season speaks for itself. It’s not a good thing either.

Against Leeds we looked awful and one of those battlegrounds we lost was in midfield.
Fair challenge, but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Leeds was terrible across the board. Sheaf and Eccles were not the problem. The whole team was.
 

The watchmaker

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Yes it would be nice if he scored a couple goals every now and again but it’s a weird stick to beat a mostly defensive midfielder with
I think it was John Barnes that recently said something along the lines of 'if your defensive midfielders are scoring goals - they are out of position.'
 

wingy

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I think it was John Barnes that recently said something along the lines of 'if your defensive midfielders are scoring goals - they are out of position.'
That's so old hat though in the new format, when did that change, about ten years ago when Pep got everyone else playing to his model, average!
While he collared the best player's to play a better version of average, easy when you know he's doing it ain't it.
Now someone follow Arsenal (unpalletable) and get this method down and give us back real football, just like the other night at the CBS!!
 

The watchmaker

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That's so old hat though in the new format, when did that change, about ten years ago when Pep got everyone else playing to his model, average!
While he collared the best player's to play a better version of average, easy when you know he's doing it ain't it.
Now someone follow Arsenal (unpalletable) and get this method down and give us back real football, just like the other night at the CBS!!
Yeah that is fair. Given that Eccles does actually get into some shooting positions it's also kind of irrelevant.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Fair challenge, but the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

Leeds was terrible across the board. Sheaf and Eccles were not the problem. The whole team was.

Of course, I’ve been critical of the defence too because we just cannot seem to keep clean sheets. Our forward department is the best stocked it has ever been post-Premiership, there’s Wright, BTA and Simms capable of getting 10-20 league goals a season and they’re supported by the likes of Sakamoto, EMC and Bassette.

In Feb, we had a sequence of games in Feb/Mar where we had Norwich, WBA away and PNE at home and we comfortably second best in the latter 2 games.

Our record was that bad against the top half, we can’t seriously say our midfield pairing is one of the best in the league. Too often, we just couldn’t break those teams down. Robins alluded to it several times that we ‘lacked quality’ and this included midfield and there’s a reason we chased several midfielders this off-season.

Eccles and Sheaf both had good games on Tuesday but Blackburn are a side many expect to be closer to relegation than playoffs come May. Despite the good job Eustace is doing. So let’s not get too excited considering it was off the back of a bad performance v Leeds.

One thing that was evident on Tuesday and is reoccurring is the gap between Eccles-Sheaf and Rudoni (COH/Palmer last season) which is likely a reason we sometimes struggle to move the ball through the middle. This is particularly so against the better sides in this division.

One final thing, you can see Eccles is working on his game, particularly his long range passing from deep. Which I respect and he’s progressing quite well here, compared to Sheaf, he doesn’t move quite as quick but it’s a work in progress which Eccles admitted himself. The best example of this being his pass to Bassette v Spurs.

In summary, we definitely still miss that quality that Hamer brought to us. A Sheaf-Hamer CM partnership would undoubtedly be one of, if not the best partnership in the league. Sheaf-Eccles, probably 6-9th best in all likelihood.
 

fatso

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It's not because he can't strike a ball though. He seems to lose composure when shooting chances arise. Sheaf's the same 🤷‍♂️
Should be getting at least 5 each every year IMO
Sheaf has a horrible habit of blazing the ball over the bar!
Honestly it's embarrassing.
 

Calista

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Sheaf has a horrible habit of blazing the ball over the bar!
Honestly it's embarrassing.
Yes, and there's no need for it. He's probably capable of passing the ball into the bottom corners of the net (Hoddle-style) so it's frustrating that he has a rush of blood to the head and smashes it skywards.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Yes, and there's no need for it. He's probably capable of passing the ball into the bottom corners of the net (Hoddle-style) so it's frustrating that he has a rush of blood to the head and smashes it skywards.
His goal at Hillsborough last season was sublime mind you. Inch perfect into the top corner, but he wrapped his foot around that one. More often that’s not how he shoots
 

PUSB-We_are_going_up

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If he can learn one trait from Sheaf, being the always being an option to recieve the ball allowing us to actually play out from the back, then he would be a top player, he reads the game so well and is class in the tackle, nice passing range as well definitely got prem potential
 

Otis

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He's a fine player at this level for sure.

Unfortunately, as soon as he next has a single bad game, all the criticism of him will sprout up again on here, to say he's not good enough.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Of course, I’ve been critical of the defence too because we just cannot seem to keep clean sheets. Our forward department is the best stocked it has ever been post-Premiership, there’s Wright, BTA and Simms capable of getting 10-20 league goals a season and they’re supported by the likes of Sakamoto, EMC and Bassette.

In Feb, we had a sequence of games in Feb/Mar where we had Norwich, WBA away and PNE at home and we comfortably second best in the latter 2 games.

Our record was that bad against the top half, we can’t seriously say our midfield pairing is one of the best in the league. Too often, we just couldn’t break those teams down. Robins alluded to it several times that we ‘lacked quality’ and this included midfield and there’s a reason we chased several midfielders this off-season.

Eccles and Sheaf both had good games on Tuesday but Blackburn are a side many expect to be closer to relegation than playoffs come May. Despite the good job Eustace is doing. So let’s not get too excited considering it was off the back of a bad performance v Leeds.

One thing that was evident on Tuesday and is reoccurring is the gap between Eccles-Sheaf and Rudoni (COH/Palmer last season) which is likely a reason we sometimes struggle to move the ball through the middle. This is particularly so against the better sides in this division.

One final thing, you can see Eccles is working on his game, particularly his long range passing from deep. Which I respect and he’s progressing quite well here, compared to Sheaf, he doesn’t move quite as quick but it’s a work in progress which Eccles admitted himself. The best example of this being his pass to Bassette v Spurs.

In summary, we definitely still miss that quality that Hamer brought to us. A Sheaf-Hamer CM partnership would undoubtedly be one of, if not the best partnership in the league. Sheaf-Eccles, probably 6-9th best in all likelihood.

I think that's all very harsh on Eccles.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Sheaf and Eccles, through my sky blue tinted glasses, is up there as one of the best pairings in the league

No chance. We create nothing for the firepower we have upfront. Teams play through us with embarrassing ease.

Defence and midfield is holding us back, 100%.
 

ptr

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Eccles = Improved a little but still blowing out of his arse after 55 minutes....
Are you fucking surprised? Has to put a proper shift in because ours two wide players stay up top and we then can’t hold it up when they have got it. Constantly chasing the game trying to win possession back. If we could keep the ball well enough maybe he wouldn’t be blowing. Works his arse off.
 

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