MalcSB
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Coventry is buckling under strain of overseas arrivals: PAUL BRACCHI
More than one in four Coventry residents were born outside the UK and one in seven (almost 50,000 people) have arrived since 2011.
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Gynnsthetonic
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Saw that, I mentioned this on a thread earlier on this year but got shot down as an out and out racist. I won't be saying another word!Coventry is buckling under strain of overseas arrivals: PAUL BRACCHI
More than one in four Coventry residents were born outside the UK and one in seven (almost 50,000 people) have arrived since 2011.www.dailymail.co.uk
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Gynnsthetonic
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Ssshhhh! Can't say that
I think I know what you mean!
MalcSB
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Search our chart to see how much YOUR hospital made in parking fees
The sum pocketed by University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust is the highest amount ever recorded by a trust in a single year.
UHCW top of the charts at over 50 % higher than UHB in second place.
Sky Blue Pete
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Dont think we do too bad as a city at all
San Francisco
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Added 50k people since 2011? Blimey
Flying Fokker
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Nuts…
Cities always have problems with services when they grow.
Cities always have problems with services when they grow.
MalcSB
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Trouble is that cities are growing at an artificially high rate. The indigenous population of the UK hasn’t grown at all over the last couple of years - deaths slightly greater than births,
Gynnsthetonic
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Where are the extra hospitals, doctors, schools, dentists, there aren't any, we are not the only City like this, there could of been loads the Mail picked out.
MalcSB
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Because - as it says in the article - it is one of the fastest growing cities in the UK - behind London, Birmingham and Manchester. And we are all sick about hearing about the issues in those three.
So Coventry is a good example.
nicksar
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The Mail quote the current population at 350k... that's incorrect the Coventry/Bedworth conurbation has a current population of 449k.
nicksar
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Coventry, United Kingdom Population 2024
Gynnsthetonic
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We havnt the infrastructure for all these people, I for one am looking to move out of the City
MalcSB
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Does it really matter as long as they are consistent with their data source?
They are saying Coventry , not Coventry and Bedworth (isn't Bedworth more closely allied to Nuneaton).
MalcSB
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Thing is, with all the building being promised nowhere will have the infrastructure. South Warwickshire NHS FT have objected to building proposals on the basis of the impact on services. The formula for allocation of NHS resources hasn't changed for a very long time (AFAIK) and is not equitable.
Nick
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There are still thousands more houses being built with no sign of any new schools, doctors surgeries or anything like that.
The class sizes are getting much bigger and you can't get a GP appointment to save your life.
It's alright though, the council are putting bike lanes everywhere for 10 people to use a day and making sure there's traffic on 80% of the main roads now.
People should probably have a drive past Culworth Court and see what's going on there as well.
The class sizes are getting much bigger and you can't get a GP appointment to save your life.
It's alright though, the council are putting bike lanes everywhere for 10 people to use a day and making sure there's traffic on 80% of the main roads now.
People should probably have a drive past Culworth Court and see what's going on there as well.
Gynnsthetonic
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Nuneaton, Bulkington, Leamington, Warwick and Rugby which was mentioned as being the largest growing town in the country, massive house building projects but as Nick said, no services except the odd Costcutter
shmmeee
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What’s an “artificially high rate” when it’s at home?
shmmeee
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So we should all just pay loads for houses incase the government doesn’t open enough schools? Make it make sense. You build the houses and the services you need.
MalcSB
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The post answers that question, as did the article in the op.
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MalcSB
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The fact of the matter is that the houses are being built, but the services aren’t.
if net immigration wasn’t running at 600,000 plus per year, being the underlying reason for population growth as deaths are marginally greater than births, pressure on housing and services wouldn’t be so great. In addition, there are apparently 700,000 empty houses in the UK.
I can just as easily suggest we should have cheap housing but accept there is nowhere to send your kids to school and that you will have a 15 hour wait - and potentially die - in an A&E corridor.
shmmeee
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Services have been underfunded for decades. School places not so long ago were in crisis and lots of schools were looking at closing TBF.
Lack of public services is down to the government not paying for them. Kicking the brown people out won’t change that.
There’s issues with immigration but you cant just lump everything in there. See also traffic.
MalcSB
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I said nothing about kicking brown people out. We need to stop allowing foreigners of all ethnicities in.
MalcSB
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Almost as an aside, how do councils get away with approving massive new housing developments, collecting the council tax from them when occupied, and yet not have to provide all the services meaning occupiers then have to pay a management company to cover the gap in services?
shmmeee
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We need to stop allowing low wage low skill immigrants and their extended family in. We need to shut off Deliveroo and other routes to low paid illegal work and we need to kick people out when they break the law.
But all of that will still leave our public services underfunded. The state of the country is our own making. The public realm in other countries with high immigration is fine. And ours has been declining for 50 years, back to when our immigration problem was everyone leaving the country.
It’s just the latest distraction as to why we cant have basic services.
shmmeee
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Because councils are mostly social care organisations these days and cant do much else. We are ludicrously centralised here and have to beg central govt for everything.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Because usually the developments are agreed with the developer having to build these services as well as part of the agreement, or having a s106 agreement. There's a few in Coventry where locals have been told they'll get schools, doctors, community centres etc. that have never materialised. I think more rural developments get a bit more than developments in cities etc. but the developers will obviously get away with as little as possible. With the s106 where money has been given, it rarely gets spent on the services because so many councils have no money because govt fucked them over with the social care bill.
Trouble is they let them build the houses then *shock* they say they've not got enough money left to build the services or they'll lose money, and they just get let off.
How about telling them they have to build the services first, and cannot build more than 25% of the housing until the services are in place? With the services built and in place the houses they build after are more valuable to them.
It’s the only growth strategy of successive governments. People can’t stomach policies to make it easier to have kids, or to bring in immigrants. Something has to give. We can reduce growth and GDP but we would have even less money for services, pensions etc.
David O'Day
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A poorly written piece that offers no actual evidence, it just states the city is bigger and waiting times are up so the must be linked but as we know causation does not mean correlation. Waiting times are sky high in areas that have seen far less immigration.
It's almost as if 14 years of chronic underfunding has made the NHS worse.
There's a conversation to be had about the NHS but immigrant blaming (who as a whole are GDP positive) isn't one of them.
It's almost as if 14 years of chronic underfunding has made the NHS worse.
There's a conversation to be had about the NHS but immigrant blaming (who as a whole are GDP positive) isn't one of them.
chiefdave
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would be interested in a breakdown of those figures. the big surge seems to coincide with a surge in university numbersCoventry, United Kingdom Population 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
we have over 60K students in the city, can't find any figures for how much that has increased over the years. does that account for a big chunk of the increase?
MalcSB
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Your last sentence makes sense, however not convinced it would address the hospitals funding issue. Of course, a problem is that the developer can build GP surgeries and schools - they are not going to have to staff them.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Yeah, it's not a fix-all. But would help somewhat with health if doctors surgeries were built (assuming we have enough to staff them). Same with schools - would help but still need the teachers and they're leaving in droves.
nicksar
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In all honesty Dave I'm unsure if student numbers are included....the population had been 400k plus for a good while
