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ccfc922
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Chris Kaba shot man in nightclub days before his death - BBC News
Judge rules details of Chris Kaba’s background can be reported after officer cleared of his murder.
www.bbc.co.uk
ccfc922
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Wasn't exactly killed walking down the street to get a newspaper the way the family/media are making out.
Classic case of fuck about and find out, don't drive a car at armed police
Terry_dactyl
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Similarities with the Mark Duggan case. Take each on a case by case basis. The Met have A LOT to answer for, and I think the Macpherson Reports findings still seem to be relevant.
However, looks to me like this bloke was using his car as a weapon, putting lives at risk. I’m sure his friends and family will be upset but it’s difficult for others to feel too much empathy/sympathy.
However, looks to me like this bloke was using his car as a weapon, putting lives at risk. I’m sure his friends and family will be upset but it’s difficult for others to feel too much empathy/sympathy.
Otis
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I don't understand why the police officer was put on trial. Couldn't an independent inquiry have dealt with it
Seems to me the officer did very little wrong. When someone is trying to ram you with a car that's been stolen and used previously in a shooting, the obvious conclusion is that the incident is life-threatening.
Seems to me the officer did very little wrong. When someone is trying to ram you with a car that's been stolen and used previously in a shooting, the obvious conclusion is that the incident is life-threatening.
ccfc922
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Restraining order against his unborn child's mother for domestic violence I think.
Grendel
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Apparently he was an innocent lamb and about to be a father
Otis
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Nick
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Only just seen the people demanding justice outside the court, middle aged offended white women. 
It's like when that guy from the specials grand son was killed in cov, all over the papers with t shirts with pictures of him on but where were the family to step in when he was robbing people at gun point?
It's like when that guy from the specials grand son was killed in cov, all over the papers with t shirts with pictures of him on but where were the family to step in when he was robbing people at gun point?
ccfc922
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Yes. If true. Believed to have beaten up his pregnant girlfriend.
28 day order issued apparently, multiple sources reporting it so I guess it is
Nick
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Again, maybe the parents should take some blame that they raised somebody who thought it was ok to beat a pregnant woman?
Nah. It's all the coppers fault.
It's part of the issues with the country nowadays, nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions or their kids.
The parents on camera like he was a blameless victim, where were they when he was shooting people or beating up his Mrs? Maybe they wouldn't get compo from that.....
Nah. It's all the coppers fault.
It's part of the issues with the country nowadays, nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions or their kids.
The parents on camera like he was a blameless victim, where were they when he was shooting people or beating up his Mrs? Maybe they wouldn't get compo from that.....
BodicoteSkyBlue
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Good job it’s not the summer time, there’d be riots by now.
ccfc922
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Only just seen the people demanding justice outside the court, middle aged offended white women.
It's like when that guy from the specials grand son was killed in cov, all over the papers with t shirts with pictures of him on but where were the family to step in when he was robbing people at gun point?
Tbf, 17 seconds of being told repeatedly stop a 2+ ton vehicle, think they may have a point, definitely race related
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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The copper has his life ruined, and this guy goes down as some George Floyd second-coming hero.
The world is just fucked at the moment.
The world is just fucked at the moment.
ccfc922
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Makes me laugh how they're saying "he's free to go back to work"... yeah course he can.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Another pathetic article from the BBC
Chris Kaba: Black Londoners traumatised, community leaders say
Chris Kaba: Black Londoners traumatised, community leaders say
MalcSB
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It‘s fucking laughable.The guy was a violent gangster. If he had put his hands up he would still be alive. Admittedly, facing an attempted murder charge, but alive.
MalcSB
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An interesting view on the Macpherson report
“The Macpherson Report was a response to a horrific crime: the murder of Stephen Lawrence in 1993, which was followed by a major campaign, led by this newspaper, to bring the killers to justice. Yet in his confused recommendations, Lord Macpherson both accused the police of racism and berated them for refusing to show more cultural sensitivity – ie, he simultaneously told them to treat everyone the same and to treat everyone differently.”
Nick
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This nonsense is part of the issue. Everybody else's fault all the time. Nobody taking responsibility.
It shouldn't have even gone to court, no doubt it was because of public outrage.
The judge also thought it was a good idea to name the copper.
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MalcSB
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Two tier justice system.
Naming the copper was absolutely disgusting and the judge should be censured for it. If anything happens to the policeman and / or his family the judge will need to take a huge share of responsibility.
They wouldn't allow Kaba's criminal past and very recent history to be revealed to the jury as the policeman didn't know it at the time he pulled the trigger. Kaba certainly never knew the PCs name.
The leftie politicians need to shut the fuck up.
Terry_dactyl
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Hmmmm, im slightly confused by that analysis. Is ‘telling’ police not to be racist as simple as telling the police to treat people the same?
rob9872
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I hate that this guy is treated as if there has been some awful decision made by racist cops. There are plenty of examples of genuine racism which should be called out, using it in instances like this causes more divide than it unifies. The embarrassing shouting and protesting is horrendous. In Kaba's case it's good riddance and the cop should have received commendation rather than trial and the now disgusting bounty on him.
Someone mentioned Steven Lawrence above. He's the type of guy who should be lauded and if anything there should be statues of him and protests or marches, and not the outrage at rent-a mob like we have here for Kaba or Duggan etc. The difference is that his parents have conducted themselves impeccably through everything, so it's wrongly made it easy to sweep away and be ignored.
Someone mentioned Steven Lawrence above. He's the type of guy who should be lauded and if anything there should be statues of him and protests or marches, and not the outrage at rent-a mob like we have here for Kaba or Duggan etc. The difference is that his parents have conducted themselves impeccably through everything, so it's wrongly made it easy to sweep away and be ignored.
Sky Blue Pete
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I see it slightly differently and I think an I investigation into the shooting dead of an unarmed man is essential irrespective of that man’s background
Especially as the police weren’t aware of his background. If they did know I think you could argue they had more reason to think they were in danger than being driven at by a crazed individual
So no problem with investigation, surprised at the trial, pleased at the outcome and fearful for community relations
rob9872
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There's a difference between trial and investigation though. The latter I assume is standard practice with every armed operation. The info the police had, regardless of the now known background was that the car had been used in a firearms incident and the driver, to evade arrest was not only using the car as a weapon, but potentially armed. Nobody could realistically be expected to wait and find out.
Terry_dactyl
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While I agree with most of that I’m not sure that the murder Stephen Lawrence has been swept away and ignored, or that his parents haven’t campaigned vigorously for justice.
Nick
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Wasn't the car known to have been used in a shooting (but they didn't know who was driving).
I think there's a massive difference between an investigation and a murder charge.
rob9872
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They've certainly campaigned and rightly so, but they've also not stirred up trouble in the process and have remained dignified.
Terry_dactyl
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I think this might be a different debate but I wonder what if they had stirred up trouble...Who could blame them right?
These though are very different cases.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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They knew about his involvement in another shooting and decided not to release information about it. The police officer wasn't given the same level of respect.
Community relations would be a lot better if they didn't make it a race issue every single time.
Grendel
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They were aware the car was used in a crime. To leave this mans past offences and the fact he was a dangerous member of a notorious gang was not a good idea. Why fear for community relations? Surely any decent member of our community rejoices this filth is dead.