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procdoc

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He’s just been a poor signing overall. It summed him up last season when he started laughing after scoring an own goal.

He constantly tries to bring the ball out of defence, only to run into the opposition and lose it. He makes rash decisions on and off the ball. He’s basically become a liability.

Is it an attitude problem or is he just not good enough?
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Binks achieved the seemingly impossible last night anand made Thomas look like not the worse CB on the pitch, but yeah, he's very poor, as are all our CBs in my opinion.
 
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Marty

Marty

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Every CB is absolutely dire, I got ridiculed on here for saying exactly that in the summer. We need to bring in a new spine to this team that are all old experienced leaders. I think that will sort most of the problems out.
 
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Cally Fedora

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We’re asking them to do the wrong thing though. Lati and Thomas are two of the worst ball playing CH’s you’ll see. So why are we asking them to play out. It’s madness. Binks can play a 15 yard pass but can’t defend. I’ll never be convinced that having your players who are poorest on the ball on it for the most time is a sensible tactic.
 
Sky Blue Goblin

Sky Blue Goblin

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Yeah werid one as I don’t think he’s that awful on short passes and shifting it but we try and play at times with such a high tempo it ends up going nowhere.

Trying to back the lads and think Confidence is a major issue here as we say last year that he can be decent championship CB but the longer this goes on, the more I wished we went in for Luke and paid the premium or did a swap with Hamer like was rumoured at the time.
 
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CCFCSteve

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fernandopartridge said:
Another quality thread, weirdly after Thomas performs pretty well
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It’s always got to be one players fault !

We haven’t had a settled back line all season, it’s no coincidence we look all over the shop

I wonder what’s going on on the training pitch as under Lawrence when we had a settled back line, these same players were pretty solid
 
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Deity

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Robins changes the defensive and goalkeeping positions too often. You won’t defend well until that stops and relationships build.
 
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SkyB

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Bobby Thomas in the middle of the back three works so much better imo. Reduce the need for his limited on the ball skill and plays into his strength of interceptions and tackling.

Although with him at the heart I do fear for those moments when he goes brain dead and plays 5 yards behind everyone else.

He has all the raw attributes to step in to Fadz shoes over the next 2 years but needs to improve his leadership of the defence. Robins should be driving up to Yorkshire daily and begging Fadz to come back and tutor Bob.
 
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SkyB

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alexccfc99 said:
Of all the people to dig out last night Thomas (or any of the centre halves) is an odd choice
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I think people are only digging him out because he tried to drive forward towards the end and lost the ball. One big negative action out weighs all the small positives he contributed in peoples eyes.

Yesterdays issue was not having replacements for the fullbacks. Milan and Jay knew they had to play at least 80, if not 90, yesterday so they had to keep something in reserve. The reason we looked so empty in the midfield and struggled to progress the ball through it was due to Jay and Milan not varying there starting position when the CBs had the ball. Sheaf or Eccles should be dropping deep, next to Bobby, Lats and Binks move to a more traditional RB/LB position and Milan and Jay show for the ball on the touchline and can play off the other 2 CMs. With both having to play 90s it meant they got lazy and just defaulted further up the pitch leaving QPR space to press and our patterns of play became so predictable that and SBT 11 could have dispossessed us.
 
Skyblue in Baku

Skyblue in Baku

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SkyB said:
I think people are only digging him out because he tried to drive forward towards the end and lost the ball. One big negative action out weighs all the small positives he contributed in peoples eyes.

Yesterdays issue was not having replacements for the fullbacks. Milan and Jay knew they had to play at least 80, if not 90, yesterday so they had to keep something in reserve. The reason we looked so empty in the midfield and struggled to progress the ball through it was due to Jay and Milan not varying there starting position when the CBs had the ball. Sheaf or Eccles should be dropping deep, next to Bobby, Lats and Binks move to a more traditional RB/LB position and Milan and Jay show for the ball on the touchline and can play off the other 2 CMs. With both having to play 90s it meant they got lazy and just defaulted further up the pitch leaving QPR space to press and our patterns of play became so predictable that and SBT 11 could have dispossessed us.
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Who is Jay?
 
rob9872

rob9872

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Bobby is 23 with loads of improvement still in him. Those asayin ghe was League 1, he outperformed for a L1 team near the top of the table (at 21) and we actually signed him from Burnley, not Barnsley. He gets stuck in, his positioning to defend and some of the clearances he's made this season have been excellent and he wins headers at the other end of the pitch too (already scored and been very unlucky not to against both Leeds and Preston).

Last night if Dovin doesnt chuck one in we keep a clean sheet and yet we have a thread on how bad our centre half is. I sometimes wonder if some people have ever watched let alone played the game.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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We do have to remember that just because a player is young does not automatically mean they will get better. Many get worse.
 
rob9872

rob9872

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
We do have to remember that just because a player is young does not automatically mean they will get better. Many get worse.
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I hope that's not true of Dovin or we really are fekked!
 
alexccfc99

alexccfc99

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procdoc said:
It’s observation on his entire time here so far really. He has the odd really good game and the rest of the time he is mediocre
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That’s fair enough and you have a point but when you start a thread criticising a certain player in the immediate aftermath of a match it’s not a reach to think that it’s a knock at his performance last night
 
Paxman II

Paxman II

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This is getting silly, picking on players randomly makes little sense. Thomas and Binks and Kitching are all good CB's. The real issue is the support of the deep midfielders protecting them. Our midfield needs attention. We don't yet have a player that can influence the midfield to take the pressure away from the defenders. Hamer was that person. Liam Walsh was that person. Sheaf can't do it all on his own. Eccles, Allen, are not that person. I would like to see Torp given a run in the side, he clearly has a good brain and something Simms is crying out for.
 
Grendel

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Paxman II said:
This is getting silly, picking on players randomly makes little sense. Thomas and Binks and Kitching are all good CB's. The real issue is the support of the deep midfielders protecting them. Our midfield needs attention. We don't yet have a player that can influence the midfield to take the pressure away from the defenders. Hamer was that person. Liam Walsh was that person. Sheaf can't do it all on his own. Eccles, Allen, are not that person. I would like to see Torp given a run in the side, he clearly has a good brain and something Simms is crying out for.
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I don’t rate Binks in the slightest - I thinks he’s awful
 
rob9872

rob9872

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alexccfc99 said:
I do believe had he not crunched into Bruno Fernandes at Wembley not many people would have cared either way if he come back or not
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Tbf for a loan player, I loved his reaction to the goal that was disallowed at Wembley. You could see it genuinely meant something. Last season I thought he should've had more game time, he's currently struggling for form, but he's not alone in that. In part I think to chopping and changing between personnel and systems. Assuming we get through this tricky spell, I think we then need to pick a system and a line up and stick with it, good or bad for at least 6-7 games and hopefully see encouraging signs of improvement game on game.
 
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Cally Fedora

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Depends what you want from a defender. Binks defensively is not good at all. In fact a left flank of him and Dasilva is a dream come true for the opposition. Kitching is a better defender and can pick the odd good pass. On balance I’d prefer Kitching. Thomas and Kitching for me. Lati has played better recently but he scares me shitless on the ball.
 
Otis

Otis

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Cally Fedora said:
Depends what you want from a defender. Binks defensively is not good at all. In fact a left flank of him and Dasilva is a dream come true for the opposition. Kitching is a better defender and can pick the odd good pass. On balance I’d prefer Kitching. Thomas and Kitching for me. Lati has played better recently but he scares me shitless on the ball.
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Yeah, I think he went on the same Ball Trap For Beginners Course as Ellis Simms. Both of them quitting after the first day.
 
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