Women's Boxing in the Olympics (24 Viewers)
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A simple power rating would suffice in my opinion,not castigating a significant proportion of women who have been born ,lived as women,are women just on some dodgy russian federation say so and amplified by big smart don before the event,just like a stable genius,demi God,predicts event's does Don!
oakey
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What nonsense.
Women's sport was created to exclude males and specifically male advantage.
Forget Russians and Donalds and focus on the issue.
If an individual is male they must be excluded from the women's category.
It is a regulatory body's actual job to protect that category by having entry requirements - most obviously a sex screening process.
The IOC has refused to do this. They have no interest in protecting the integrity of women's sport. They are happy to use birth certificates to include males in women's sport.
Women's sport was created to exclude males and specifically male advantage.
Forget Russians and Donalds and focus on the issue.
If an individual is male they must be excluded from the women's category.
It is a regulatory body's actual job to protect that category by having entry requirements - most obviously a sex screening process.
The IOC has refused to do this. They have no interest in protecting the integrity of women's sport. They are happy to use birth certificates to include males in women's sport.
oakey
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Nonsense
Data?
And it still does,get a power co -iffecient and measure that if you want, but it's a women's sport and she is a woman, sorry, for your loss of Identity, natural all the way here!
oakey
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What data would you need to confirm whether these athletes are male or female?
The IOC has chosen either to require no medical evidence and accept a birth certificate OR they have medical evidence which they have kept to themselves.
Both options demonstrate a failure to govern with any integrity.
The release of the russian crap for a start and the handling back of the £100k from Gazprom!
oakey
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Neither action would settle the issue of whether the 2 boxers are male or female, which is the crux of the controversy.
Well the £100k would be a start to prove she was genuine in her weird surrender in the fight,alleging a broken nose but on closer inspection that claim wasn't made again,the first question is enough to publicly hang Kalif,no evidence for me and the head of IAB SAID only testosterone levels were measured and confused but enough to disqualify her and the other boxer, she's not hermafridite Andy not trans, discredited from the IAB,god I may have been married to one of those described but four children later bruised knuckles from whaking me over the head!
rob9872
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He'll get a sponsorship from Stella on the back of it.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Seriously?
By whose measure,and in centimetres or inches?
rob9872
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Micropenis apparently. Mines served me ok but it does have 20 stone ramming it home.
Como
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oakey
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Yet again the point is being missed.
The facts about whether individuals are male or female can (and probably have) been established. The IOC have chosen to ignore the biology and go with the political decision that biology matters less than identity and inclusion.
It looks likely that IOC know but don't care whether these boxers are male or female.
Therefore, I repeat, this is a failure of governance. When this happens it opens the door to speculation and misinformation.
For my part I am not interested in Russian interference, Trump weaponising the issue, "he said, she said". The IOC should have established the facts. They have brought this on themselves and are a disgrace.
The facts about whether individuals are male or female can (and probably have) been established. The IOC have chosen to ignore the biology and go with the political decision that biology matters less than identity and inclusion.
It looks likely that IOC know but don't care whether these boxers are male or female.
Therefore, I repeat, this is a failure of governance. When this happens it opens the door to speculation and misinformation.
For my part I am not interested in Russian interference, Trump weaponising the issue, "he said, she said". The IOC should have established the facts. They have brought this on themselves and are a disgrace.
oakey
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The Imane Khelif matter resurfaces: can we find in it, somehow, our common humanity? | 3 Wire Sports
The story of Imane Khelif, the Algerian athlete who won gold in the women’s boxing competition at the Paris 2024 Olympic Games, is filled with layers of complication. The question confronting all of us now, with the story in the spotlight again Monday, is not just whether the Imane Khelif
www.3wiresports.com
An interesting and fairly balanced article, at least. Comments below are too.