Noise from the players is deafening (37 Viewers)

[djr8369]

Why misogynist? i would have the same view if it was a male PD.

Trouble with iPads is people having their nose buried in them and not seeing what is actually happening around them in the real world.

The iPads will have shown 70% possession against Derby. We hardly won a second ball. We lost.

Are you happy with the new training wear or do you think the staff should hunt and kill animals to create their own furs?

Is there a specific level of technology or maybe period in time you’d be happy with?

 

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[Perennial Lurker]

It’s getting like a QAnon forum on here, and for some reason there’s a witch-hunt for Dr Claire, why’s it all her fault? The players and the coaches and the manager are all partly responsible.

Yes, maybe Dr Claire hasn’t implemented some things correctly, but how do we know who’s exactly to blame for a downturn in form? Dr Claire came in, new coaches came in, Lawrence left, left Viveash, Robins then on his own to figure tactics out etc etc, it’s impossible to know the exact reason we’ve been so inconsistent this season/last season. There’s so many little details that are going on in the background, blaming the introduction of iPads just seems ludicrous to me.

SHE'S an easy target

 

[MalcSB]

Are you happy with the new training wear or do you think the staff should hunt and kill animals to create their own furs?

Is there a specific level of technology or maybe period in time you’d be happy with?

I had added to the post

”In truth the iPads are emblematic of changes which do not seem to have benefited results”

 

[clint van damme]

yeah and a better role than he had here

That's not relevant.
What's relevant is that we got rid in the first place.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

That's not relevant.
What's relevant is that we got rid in the first place.

But we didn’t did we? The official stance was he took on a new role.

it’s only Gimoc who’s spouting the “we got rid” stance and his take on the clubs business is sketchy at best

 

[edgy]

That's not relevant.
What's relevant is that we got rid in the first place.

We didnt "get rid". He was headhunted. I've also heard he was offered Adi's job.

 

[edgy]

Manager Mark Robins said: “I would like to thank Dennis for his hard work and important contribution to the success that we have experienced over the last few years, during which he has been a popular and integral part of our team.

“It is an incredible opportunity for Dennis and his family that it would have been difficult not to have taken, and he leaves us with our best wishes for his new role at Minnesota United and for the future.”

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Manager Mark Robins said: “I would like to thank Dennis for his hard work and important contribution to the success that we have experienced over the last few years, during which he has been a popular and integral part of our team.

“It is an incredible opportunity for Dennis and his family that it would have been difficult not to have taken, and he leaves us with our best wishes for his new role at Minnesota United and for the future.”

Don't let the facts get in the way of the madness

 

[David O'Day]

That's not relevant.
What's relevant is that we got rid in the first place.

We didn't, he wasn't going to lose his job.

 

[Nick]

Manager Mark Robins said: “I would like to thank Dennis for his hard work and important contribution to the success that we have experienced over the last few years, during which he has been a popular and integral part of our team.

“It is an incredible opportunity for Dennis and his family that it would have been difficult not to have taken, and he leaves us with our best wishes for his new role at Minnesota United and for the future.”

Yeah but Robins was told what to say by King.

 

[David O'Day]

Manager Mark Robins said: “I would like to thank Dennis for his hard work and important contribution to the success that we have experienced over the last few years, during which he has been a popular and integral part of our team.

“It is an incredible opportunity for Dennis and his family that it would have been difficult not to have taken, and he leaves us with our best wishes for his new role at Minnesota United and for the future.”

I mean, why can't people just grasp he got a better job closer to home.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I spoke to the CEO of a leading EFL club last night, who I know through business.

He said there is a feeling in the game that Robins does best when there is little expectation upon him or the team and everything is upside, but copes less well when the pressure is on him to achieve.

I thought it was an interesting observation.

You sure you didn't just copy what Esoterica said on here yesterday

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[fernandopartridge]

Eh? It happens all the time?! Only a matter of days ago, Bruno Fernandes did it after Ten Haag was sacked by Utd.

Never known it for Cov

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[clint van damme]

But we didn’t did we? The official stance was he took on a new role.

it’s only Gimoc who’s spouting the “we got rid” stance and his take on the clubs business is sketchy at best

The official stance could well be bollocks.
And it's not only gimoc though I can't say it's certain we got rid of him but given what's gone on subsequently its not hard to believe

 

[clint van damme]

I spoke to the CEO of a leading EFL club last night, who I know through business.

He said there is a feeling in the game that Robins does best when there is little expectation upon him or the team and everything is upside, but copes less well when the pressure is on him to achieve.

I thought it was an interesting observation.

That totally contradicts what Henry Winter said the opinion of Robins is within the EFL.

 

[David O'Day]

The official stance could well be bollocks.
And it's not only gimoc though I can't say it's certain we got rid of him but given what's gone on subsequently its not hard to believe

No, it's fucking SB as well who posts bullshit for clout

So you have the word of someone desperate to still be seen as an ITK and someone who posts nonsense about DK because he put the price of his mates exec box up.

 

[David O'Day]

That totally contradicts what Henry Winter said the opinion of Robins is within the EFL.

He talks shite, he said said we played well against QPR

 

[clint van damme]

No, it's fucking SB as well who posts bullshit for clout

So you have the word of someone desperate to still be seen as an ITK and someone who posts nonsense about DK because he put the price of his mates exec box up.

Lawrence gone.
Viveash gone.
Senior players gone.
Loan players gone.

 

[clint van damme]

No, it's fucking SB as well who posts bullshit for clout

So you have the word of someone desperate to still be seen as an ITK and someone who posts nonsense about DK because he put the price of his mates exec box up.

Don't listen to people on the forum

He talks shite, he said said we played well against QPR

Do listen to people on the forum

 

[David O'Day]

Lawrence gone.
Viveash gone.
Senior players gone.
Loan players gone.

Lawrence got a better job
Viveash could of been let go for non football reasons
We sold or let go older players that aren't good enough
We tried to use the load market, we had a player joining on load but he then got injured.

 

[David O'Day]

Don't listen to people on the forum



Do listen to people on the forum

"do listen to people on the forum"? Henry Winter is on this forum?

 

[samccov1987]

Said it on another post but I don’t get the structure of the club.

There’s Head Coach, Performance Director then Head of Recruitment. Are they all equal or is one above the others? In that sort of setup I’d expect a director of football but looks like they all report to Doug independently; Doug who admits he doesn’t know much about football.

Recruitment so far looks poor. Energy levels, injuries and hitting the ground running this season hasn’t happened so performance director doesn’t look like they are hitting target. Then the on pitch performances, formations, substitutions haven’t given us results so coach has lost his job.

If we put a new coach in with the current setup does he instantly carry the can if he’s had to work with the staff we’ve got or do we then look at the other leadership roles.

 

[Viktor17]

I spoke to the CEO of a leading EFL club last night, who I know through business.

He said there is a feeling in the game that Robins does best when there is little expectation upon him or the team and everything is upside, but copes less well when the pressure is on him to achieve.

I thought it was an interesting observation.

Thats been my nagging worry also. I didn't want him sacked, but it was clear we was struggling, granted a lot down to all the off field change especially.

BUT he as never managed at this level, with this expectation and thats the concern.

 

[clint van damme]

"do listen to people on the forum"? Henry Winter is on this forum?

No, Deity is. It was a response to his ITK post.

 

[David O'Day]

Said it on another post but I don’t get the structure of the club.

There’s Head Coach, Performance Director then Head of Recruitment. Are they all equal or is one above the others? In that sort of setup I’d expect a director of football but looks like they all report to Doug independently; Doug who admits he doesn’t know much about football.

Recruitment so far looks poor. Energy levels, injuries and hitting the ground running this season hasn’t happened so performance director doesn’t look like they aren't hitting target. Then the on pitch performances, formations, substitutions haven’t given us results so coach has lost his job.

If we put a new coach in with the current setup does he instantly carry the can if he’s had to work with the staff we’ve got or do we then look at the other leadership roles.

The head coach should be a level down as they normally report into a SD/FOD

 

[David O'Day]

No, Deity is. It was a response to his ITK post.

But the thing you quote was me talking about Henry Winter?

 

[clint van damme]

But the thing you quote was me talking about Henry Winter?

So one minute you're saying don't believe the ITKs on the forum.
Then I respond to one with a quote from a journalist and you're siding with the ITK, (or seemed to be)

 

[GIMOC]

We didn't, he wasn't going to lose his job.

he wasn’t offered a new contract

if you’ve not been offered a new contract you leave

I know for some that’s hard to grasp but that’s the reality

what’s aired in public isn’t necessary what happens behind the scenes

 

[GIMOC]

Yeah and we lost.

from a missed pen

could have been so different

the new changes have been made and it’s gone downwards since

 

[djr8369]

from a missed pen

could have been so different

the new changes have been made and it’s gone downwards since

Yes it’s gone downwards but it’s not the fault of iPads is it? Come on it’s ludicrous

 

[Perennial Lurker]

he wasn’t offered a new contract

if you’ve not been offered a new contract you leave

I know for some that’s hard to grasp but that’s the reality

what’s aired in public isn’t necessary what happens behind the scenes

He was still under contract though

 

[David O'Day]

So one minute you're saying don't believe the ITKs on the forum.
Then I respond to one with a quote from a journalist and you're siding with the ITK, (or seemed to be)

I simply said I will take the views of a non cov supporting journalist who thinks we played well against QPR with a pinch of salt

 

[Nick]

Said it on another post but I don’t get the structure of the club.

There’s Head Coach, Performance Director then Head of Recruitment. Are they all equal or is one above the others? In that sort of setup I’d expect a director of football but looks like they all report to Doug independently; Doug who admits he doesn’t know much about football.

Recruitment so far looks poor. Energy levels, injuries and hitting the ground running this season hasn’t happened so performance director doesn’t look like they are hitting target. Then the on pitch performances, formations, substitutions haven’t given us results so coach has lost his job.

If we put a new coach in with the current setup does he instantly carry the can if he’s had to work with the staff we’ve got or do we then look at the other leadership roles.

Wouldn't they report to the coo?

 

[chiefdave]

It's completely normal practice

 

[SBT]

Yet it’s only when people raise concerns about her stated role in the papers people get all up in arms. She’s a woman not an endangered species. She can be criticised. The other coaches are as well and they don’t get people popping up with sad faces saying we shouldn’t do it.

Some of the criticism of her is clearly gendered though. The appointment of a former Premier League executive to oversee sports science at the club should hardly be considered a controversial appointment, but people are still questioning her credentials. There’s an inherent mistrust and doubt about her role not only because it’s coincided with a dip in form, but also because she’s a woman working in a business that almost always hires men. I’m not saying that’s the world’s greatest injustice, nor am I saying she should be immune from criticism over the things she controls, but I don’t thing you can totally ignore that aspect either.