Match Thread Supporter's Meeting with Doug King Match Thread (35 Viewers)

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Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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clint van damme said:
Let's not forget, that in the season we got to the playoffs 1 man rigorously stuck by his prediction of the play offs and never wavered in the face of adversity.

That man was Paxman.

He's earned the right to the occasional unpunctuated, overlong, demented word salad.
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I was just thinking something similar 😁

He got it right where everyone else was wrong, and never flinched in the face of constant pisstaking from the bedwetters
 
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djr8369

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usskyblue said:
The owner said that MR was responsible for getting in an assistant and one never materialized.

Chris Ramsey spoke to MR at Ryton on October 9th. The appointment got vetoed on, or before October 14th. The reason given was that the owner thought the timing wasn’t right.

So MR must have known somewhere in between October 9th - 14th that he has a dead man walking.

To me, it seems that whole truth isn’t being told.
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When asked how long he’d been thinking about it King implied it had been something brewing for a while and specifically mentioned a meeting on Oct 30th which sounded like things came to a head. So it’s reasonable to assume 2 weeks before that he had the idea in the back of his mind. I’m not sure this is a big deal.
 
Briles

Briles

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Evo1883 said:
Reality is all succesful clubs have a good team , currently that team isn't good enough .

Alex ferguson was very succesful with Mike phelan , fergie rarely took training but we don't attribute united success to phelan .
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Very good point
 
stupot07

stupot07

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clint van damme said:
Let's not forget, that in the season we got to the playoffs 1 man rigorously stuck by his prediction of the play offs and never wavered in the face of adversity.

That man was Paxman.

He's earned the right to the occasional unpunctuated, overlong, demented word salad.
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🤣🤣 He predicts play offs every season, however bad we start. A broken clock is always right twice a day.

And you need to correct "occasional" to "regular"
 
stupot07

stupot07

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Ring Of Steel said:
I like the way in the eyes of some, anyone who’s ever done anything right or done well or got something right, it’s all fluke, luck or down to something else, and they’re actually shite really
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Not really, but Pax does always predict play offs, and sticks by it all season. He/she is an eternal optimist.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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Diogenes said:
My thoughts

Doug King is exactly what Coventry needs right now, and it’s about time people start realizing that. This isn’t a situation where Coventry should be pandering to those clinging to the past or throwing a pity party for anyone who can’t adapt to the direction King is taking the club. We’re not in the era of old-school football management where one manager is the unquestioned boss of every little detail—this is the modern game, and King understands that. His vision for Coventry isn’t built on sentimentality or nostalgia; it’s built on results, efficiency, and an elevated level of professionalism that’s long overdue. The idea that some people feel sorry for Vivash because he didn’t want to be “undermined” by having a performance director around is just laughable. It’s 2024, not 1994. Top clubs worldwide have coaching teams, analysts, performance directors, nutritionists, sports scientists, and data-driven strategies, all working together. This isn’t a new concept, and for anyone to be offended or to claim that it "diminishes" their role is nothing short of a low-T reaction. Coventry isn’t here to nurture anyone’s outdated sense of entitlement. King is about progress and results, and the performance director is an integral part of that. This individual isn’t there to “undermine” anyone; they’re there to make sure every single department of this club operates at the highest level, free of egos and personal agendas. If anything, the resistance to this new system is just an indication of who’s really not cut out for the next level of football. Football is no longer just about gut instincts and barking orders on the training pitch; it’s about using every advantage possible, and if you’re not on board with that, maybe you’re the one who’s not fit to be here. The notion that King has somehow wronged Robin or that Robin’s role has been “diminished” is ridiculous. If anything, he was given the opportunity to step up within this new structure and lead Coventry into a new era, but instead of rising to the challenge, he and his supporters want to act like he’s a victim. Real leaders don’t complain when things change; they adapt, they find new ways to thrive, and they focus on the bigger picture. King didn’t dismiss Vivash because Robin “told him to go”—King made the call because Vivash wasn’t willing to work within a collaborative, forward-thinking setup that could actually take Coventry places. Let’s be honest: if Vivash was so indispensable, he would have found a way to make himself relevant within this new structure, rather than clinging to the idea that his word alone should be gospel. King’s decision to bring in more staff, more structure, and a dedicated performance director wasn’t some power trip—it was the next logical step for a club looking to compete at a higher level. If that makes some people uncomfortable, that’s on them. People need to stop acting like this is some personal vendetta against Robin or Vivash and start realizing that Coventry is bigger than any single individual. King has a vision that aligns with the modern realities of football, where every decision is backed by data, where departments operate with oversight, and where no one person’s ego is allowed to dictate the direction of the entire club. It’s the simps and soyboys who can’t handle the reality of a structured, competitive environment who are making this about King versus Robin, rather than acknowledging that this is about progress versus stagnation. Coventry isn’t here to play the same old game—it’s here to elevate, to compete, to dominate. Robin had his shot to prove that he could thrive in this setup, and if he wasn’t able to, that’s on him, not on King. King’s only “crime” here is setting Coventry up to be a club that thinks long-term, a club that’s adaptable, and a club that’s not afraid to make the hard choices for the sake of winning. People need to stop viewing football through the lens of “loyalty” and “tradition” and start seeing it as a business, as a competition, as a place where only the strong survive. King didn’t just walk in and decide to turn everything upside down for fun—he saw what was missing and what needed to change. The fact that Robin didn’t last in this environment isn’t a failure on King’s part; it’s a testament to his vision and his commitment to making Coventry a club that’s no longer satisfied with mediocrity. If Coventry’s supporters want to be truly competitive, they need to get on board with King’s methods and stop idolizing a system that’s outdated and inefficient.
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Is this ChatGPT?

It's Viveash
 
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Bigelvesy

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MalcSB said:
Thats the problem, say anything negative about the Performance Director and it’s because the role is occupied by a woman. So many people on here have talked about a number of players being “confidence” players. Robins talked about players being affected by negative comments on social media etc. the Performance Director is a psychologist ffs and part of the role is to strengthen the players mentality.
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Big boomer energy in this post.
 
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wingy

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Was interesting that King dropped out the potential of legislation being considered by Lisa Nandy, Labour essentially I thought unless it was just waffle to pad out the evening?
 
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RobinsSkyBlues

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It seems that Robins has gone from hero to zero in a matter of hours after a one sided brief from the person who depends on the people he gave his story to.

I would guess he is correct with what he has said. But he has given his own spin on it. But my guess would be that a lot was missed out on. For instance we all knew we needed more players in. Loans could have made a massive difference but King didn't want to pay for someone that was a loss of money. Easily brushed over.

There's many things that could have caused bad blood between the two of them. And there was only going to be one winner.

I will be keeping an open mind and will wait for more information to come out in the weeks and months ahead before thinking I know what has happened between the two of them.
 
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wingy

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RobinsSkyBlues said:
It seems that Robins has gone from hero to zero in a matter of hours after a one sided brief from the person who depends on the people he gave his story to.

I would guess he is correct with what he has said. But he has given his own spin on it. But my guess would be that a lot was missed out on. For instance we all knew we needed more players in. Loans could have made a massive difference but King didn't want to pay for someone that was a loss of money. Easily brushed over.

There's many things that could have caused bad blood between the two of them. And there was only going to be one winner.

I will be keeping an open mind and will wait for more information to come out in the weeks and months ahead before thinking I know what has happened between the two of them.
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Is Adi free to give an opinion now?
 
Paxman II

Paxman II

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Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
 
Earlsdon_Skyblue1

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Paxman II said:
Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
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Hi mate, please can you use paragraphs and spacing? I want to read what you're writing but it all just blends in.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Paxman II said:
Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
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There appears to be considerable embellishment from King regarding the recent developments, and I find it difficult to accept his narrative as an accurate reflection of the situation. During his appearance on Talk Sport, he faced rigorous questioning from Jordan and did not respond convincingly.

While I am not opposed to the proposed restructuring aimed at advancing our club, I struggle to comprehend how such changes could not be implemented with Robins still in place. It raises the question of who could potentially be a more suitable replacement, especially given our current status as a championship club?

King's desire for a coach who functions as a team member rather than an isolated figure presents a significant challenge. Most coaches typically bring their own support staff, making it hard to identify qualified candidates who would be interested in this arrangement. If Frank Lampard were to be considered, it would likely be a situation where we serve as a mere stepping stone for his career. The departure of Robins was unexpected, and it remains to be seen if King can appoint someone with a more substantial reputation than anticipated, which could potentially improve his standing.
 
Chris1987

Chris1987

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All this whole episode indicates to me is that it was the combination of MR Adi & Lawrence which worked . Remove one or more of the parts and replace with a mish mash of coaching staff and pyramid falls down. We need a manager , head coach and the necessary back up in specialist areas of the pitch for things to work.
 
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Theonlywayisskyblue

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Paxman II said:
Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
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Well I just showed my family the message from Briles about our new man and they were certainly impressed 😂
 
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RobinsSkyBlues

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Paxman II said:
Sorry guys but there is a lot of spin from King on this one and I just don't think it quite rings true to how things went down. On Talk Sport earlier he was quizzed quite hard by Jordan and failed to answer well.
I'm not against any of the plans to re structure and move us forward, but can not understand how that could not be done with Robin's in place and wonder who could possibly be a better man coming in to replace him considering we are a championship club?
King wants a coach not as an individual but as a team member. Good luck finding someone who fits that objective. Most coaches/managers require their own back room staff. I just can't think of any coaches that are decent who would be interested. If it was Frank Lampard we would be used as his stepping stone back. Not ideal. It was a shock to see Robins go and lets hope its another shock when King appoints the next man - namely someone with a much bigger reputation than we would have thought? Now that would get him out of the dog house.
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The part I can't get my head around is how can someone who has so much respect from everyone in football including ex players is suddenly the person who has caused everything to go wrong.

Does anyone think King came out with the truth, the whole truth.and nothing but the truth?
 
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Perennial Lurker

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RobinsSkyBlues said:
The part I can't get my head around is how can someone who has so much respect from everyone in football including ex players is suddenly the person who has caused everything to go wrong.

Does anyone think King came out with the truth, the whole truth.and nothing but the truth?
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On the end of a non-dispute it's hard to argue against.
Last night filled me with way less enthusiasm than some on here but apparently I've an agenda ?
Think my beloved club is swimming in dangerous waters for the first time in what seems a lifetime
And some of the stuff believed is just plain weird
 
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