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[Senior Vick from Alicante]

Nope.

Thought not, perhaps Bluesky is the best place for you.

 

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[bigfatronssba]

Pretty much done with this conversation now.

But remember, this forum is for all City fans. The closet Stalinists and borderline Maoists act on here sometimes like there is a consensus with their opinions.

No one has a right to not be offended. No one has a right to not see/hear things they disagree with.

And most of all, your political opinions do not determine if you're a decent person or not.

 

[napolimp]

They fought Fascism.

Silencing people that you disagree with is Fascism

Elon Musk Accused Of ‘Silencing His Critics’ As X Suspends Journalists

The right-wing lurch of X under Elon Musk

Twitter/X is suspending way more people under Elon Musk

Elon Musk's X Is Suspending Accounts That Reveal a Neo-Nazi Cartoonist's Alleged Identity

Free Speech Absolutist Elon Musk Keeps Using X to Suppress Views He Doesn't Agree With

 

[Sick Boy]

Pretty much done with this conversation now.

But remember, this forum is for all City fans. The closet Stalinists and borderline Maoists act on here sometimes like there is a consensus with their opinions.

No one has a right to not be offended. No one has a right to not see/hear things they disagree with.

And most of all, your political opinions do not determine if you're a decent person or not.

I wouldn’t say a Neo-Nazi is a decent person, would you?

 

[procdoc]

Yeah you stick to interacting with only people you agree with. That is definitely the most mature approach

I interact with who I want, it’s my freedom of choice you bellend

 

[bigfatronssba]

I wouldn’t say a Neo-Nazi is a decent person, would you?

Unless I knew the person, and understood their reason for their opinions, I can't answer that.

Would you say a hard line Communist is a decent person?

 

[usskyblue]

@Nick This needs binning in the ‘Off Topic’

 

[bigfatronssba]

I interact with who I want, it’s my freedom of choice you bellend

Where have I said you couldn't?

Only one of us wants to limit who we interact with

 

[Sick Boy]

I was on a coach yesterday and this guy got on. It does feel as though they’re emboldened recently and almost proud of it.

(not England btw… Byron Bay in Aus and he was an Aus local)

Fucking hell.

 

[Sick Boy]

They fought Fascism.

Silencing people that you disagree with is Fascism

Err…no it’s not.

 

[Sick Boy]

Unless I knew the person, and understood their reason for their opinions, I can't answer that.

Would you say a hard line Communist is a decent person?

I think I’ll leave it at that.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Err…no it’s not.

That's exactly what it is.

Fascism is tyranny

Silencing people you disagree with is tyranny

 

[bigfatronssba]

I think I’ll leave it at that.

I think you best.

Basically you think the most murderous ideology the world has ever known is ok

 

[stupot07]

That's exactly what it is.

Fascism is tyranny

Silencing people you disagree with is tyranny

Isnt that what Elon Musk has done by "tweaking" the algorithms to amplify one set of ideology over another in an attempt to silence them?

 

[Sick Boy]

That's exactly what it is.

Fascism is tyranny

Silencing people you disagree with is tyranny

You’re basically just parroting stuff you’ve read online at this point.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Didn't realise Elon was a Cov fan

 

[bigfatronssba]

Isnt that what Elon Musk has done by "tweaking" the algorithms to amplify one set of ideology over another in an attempt to silence them?

If thats what he has done, then yes, I'd agree.

What I would say is you argue against this, not go and set up an echo chamber. That will just make things worse

 

[Sick Boy]

I think you best.

Basically you think the most murderous ideology the world has ever known is ok

I didn’t say anything about communism whereas you’d entertain the possibility that a neo-nazi could be a ‘decent’ person after going on about WW2 veterans. You’re all over the place.

 

[bigfatronssba]

You’re basically just parroting stuff you’ve read online at this point.

I know what fascism is mate. I learned about it at school in the 90s

 

[procdoc]

Where have I said you couldn't?

Only one of us wants to limit who we interact with

Why would I want to interact with people whose views are not dissimilar to those of Adolf Hitler? Why would I want to interact with people that shame others because of their race, religion, sexual orientation etc? There is no ‘discussion’ to be had with these people. They just call you a leftie snowflake if you try and debate them. They’re all thick as pig shit and hide behind fake accounts with pictures of union jacks. Fucking Tommy Robinson wannabe cunts

 

[bigfatronssba]

I didn’t say anything about communism whereas you’d entertain the possibility that a neo-nazi could be a ‘decent’ person after going on about WW2 veterans. You’re all over the place.

Twitter is full of Communists. An evil ideology that killed millions.

Yet you only want to talk about the Nazis on there. Why is that?

 

[procdoc]

Twitter is full of Communists. An evil ideology that killed millions.

Yet you only want to talk about the Nazis on there. Why is that?

You’re full of shit

 

[torchomatic]

Thought not, perhaps Bluesky is the best place for you.

Yep.

 

[procdoc]

Yep.

It’s a myth that you can’t have a debate on blue sky too. I have had a few but they’ve respectful and not escalated into vitriolic abuse

 

[bigfatronssba]

Why would I want to interact with people whose views are not dissimilar to those of Adolf Hitler? Why would I want to interact with people that shame others because of their race, religion, sexual orientation etc? There is no ‘discussion’ to be had with these people. They just call you a leftie snowflake if you try and debate them. They’re all thick as pig shit and hide behind fake accounts with pictures of union jacks. Fucking Tommy Robinson wannabe cunts

Because in a democracy their opinion matters as much as yours. If their opinion is something you deplore, you have only two options.

1) Win them over (something you can only do by interacting with them)

2) Suspend their right to a democratic vote and only allow those you agree with to an opinion


If you take the approach of option 2, you become as tyrannical as those you claim to oppose

 

[bigfatronssba]

You’re full of shit

Oh, don't be abusive, I'll report you to the Bluesky guardians and you'll get sent to the naughty square like all the other fascists

 

[Nick]

Just merged the BlueSky Threads together.

Personally, it's obviously freedom of choice of which websites people use. If places are an echo chamber and that's what people want to see then so be it. Don't have to agree with it.

I think Blue Sky is actually open source anyway so people can install it / run it themselves if they wanted to .

 

[torchomatic]

It’s a myth that you can’t have a debate on blue sky too. I have had a few but they’ve respectful and not escalated into vitriolic abuse

Absolutely. In a nutshell.

 

[Alkhen]

Isnt that a whatsapp group?

Well actually the #PUSB feed reminds me of here

 

[procdoc]

Because in a democracy their opinion matters as much as yours. If their opinion is something you deplore, you have only two options.

1) Win them over (something you can only do by interacting with them)

2) Suspend their right to a democratic vote and only allow those you agree with to an opinion


If you take the approach of option 2, you become as tyrannical as those you claim to oppose

Their opinions do not matter to me. You can’t win racists over, you’re talking utter bollocks.
Also I didn’t say they can’t have or voice an opinion. I just don’t need to see it when I’m looking for posts about football and wrestling

 

[napolimp]

Pretty much done with this conversation now.

... 10 responses later

 

[procdoc]

Oh, don't be abusive, I'll report you to the Bluesky guardians and you'll get sent to the naughty square like all the other fascists

You are really embarrassing yourself

 

[bigfatronssba]

You are really embarrassing yourself

Like you did here right before saying I was "full of shit"?

"It’s a myth that you can’t have a debate on blue sky too. I have had a few but they’ve respectful and not escalated into vitriolic abuse"

 

[bigfatronssba]

... 10 responses later

You're absolutely right, I'm off

 

[torchomatic]

Like you did here right before saying I was "full of shit"?

Here's the thing. You are.