Match Thread Coventry City - Sheffield United Match Thread - Saturday 23rd Nov (45 Viewers)

[TomRad85]

Nah that bollocks. If you’re looking to see if we’ve turned a corner you don’t look at the whole season.

I think from the looks of it the players had stopped playing so it’s all a bit moot anyway.

If the players had stopped playing and I agree that at least some of them had, I don't really think there's any going back from that though is there?

 

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[shmmeee]

If the players had stopped playing and I agree that at least some of them had, I don't really think there's any going back from that though is there?

No probably not. All I can say is they’d better fucking get us promoted now.

 

[TomRad85]

Both are sides we have an excellent record against, like Boro. I’ve seen a lot of “top 2!!!” But they’re just the same stripes red cunts we’ve been beating for years.

We always win at home to shit teams like Wednesday and Derby too.

 

[TomRad85]

No probably not. All I can say is they’d better fucking get us promoted now.

This is literally what I've been saying all along. I'd agree it's unprofessional and I'd agree it's a cruel end for Robins but once you reach that point it's game over. Thus I don't really understand the hysteria... but we move on, the sooner a new man is in and we start talking about football again the better.

 

[shmmeee]

We always win at home to shit teams like Wednesday and Derby too.

Home form has been shocking.

 

[shmmeee]

This is literally what I've been saying all along. I'd agree it's unprofessional and I'd agree it's a cruel end for Robins but once you reach that point it's game over. Thus I don't really understand the hysteria... but we move on, the sooner a new man is in and we start talking about football again the better.

My personal hysteria is around the fact our owner is a moron and I really really hoped he wasn’t.

Just getting 2004 vibes from this whole thing. I don’t want to go back to 2004 (well, not in football).

 

[shmmeee]

Actually I’d say Dowie for Coleman is closer than Reid for Black TBF.

 

[fingers_crossed]

They are good results. All I’m saying is up until a few weeks ago they are results we’d expect, if not a little disappointing. Both are sides we have an excellent record against, like Boro. I’ve seen a lot of “top 2!!!” But they’re just the same stripes red cunts we’ve been beating for years. And I do think under a proper manager we’d have won yesterday. I thought we handled the red terribly TBH.

What I’m seeing now is base performance we’ve had up until this season.

How we played yesterday is pretty close to how we were playing under Robins. Think Robins would‘ve started BTA for Bassette yesterday, but other than that I think it’s similar. We were playing OKish under Robins, but with the same problems we had yesterday.

The most ridiculous thing about this season is that we haven’t managed a single ‘routine’ win. The frustrating thing about Derby was that it was a perfect candidate for just that kind of win. Sheff Utd have been churning out those kind of unfussy 1-0/2-0 wins all season.

 

[TomRad85]

My personal hysteria is around the fact our owner is a moron and I really really hoped he wasn’t.

Just getting 2004 vibes from this whole thing. I don’t want to go back to 2004 (well, not in football).

Our owner whether you like him or not was the only show in town, people weren't queueing up and if SISU had stayed around... well we had to sell a player to pay for a pitch so say no more.
I think he's done a lot of good but seriously needs to take a step back after this appointment.

 

[shmmeee]

How we played yesterday is pretty close to how we were playing under Robins. Think Robins would‘ve started BTA for Bassette yesterday, but other than that I think it’s similar. We were playing OKish under Robins, but with the same problems we had yesterday.

The most ridiculous thing about this season is that we haven’t managed a single ‘routine’ win. The frustrating thing about Derby was that it was a perfect candidate for just that kind of win. Sheff Utd have been churning out those kind of unfussy 1-0/2-0 wins all season.

Saw someone talking about Spurs’ “difference between their ceiling and their floor”, feels like we’ve had a lower floor than ever and our old floor is our new ceiling. Basically we’ve moved into a lower level flat.

 

[clint van damme]

How we played yesterday is pretty close to how we were playing under Robins. Think Robins would‘ve started BTA for Bassette yesterday, but other than that I think it’s similar. We were playing OKish under Robins, but with the same problems we had yesterday.

The most ridiculous thing about this season is that we haven’t managed a single ‘routine’ win. The frustrating thing about Derby was that it was a perfect candidate for just that kind of win. Sheff Utd have been churning out those kind of unfussy 1-0/2-0 wins all season.

Blackburn was pretty routine.
Was Boro? Despite been down to 10 they gave us the runaround for long spells until we got the 2nd.

 

[shmmeee]

Our owner whether you like him or not was the only show in town, people weren't queueing up and if SISU had stayed around... well we had to sell a player to pay for a pitch so say no more.
I think he's done a lot of good but seriously needs to take a step back after this appointment.

Every owner is always the only game in town. “24 hours to save CCFC”

Sign up.... or Coventry City's future is bleak

 

[quinn1971]

My personal hysteria is around the fact our owner is a moron and I really really hoped he wasn’t.

Just getting 2004 vibes from this whole thing. I don’t want to go back to 2004 (well, not in football).

Why’s he a moron, he’s said himself he wants to bring in a director of football so he doesn’t have to make decisions on the playing side of things, won’t know if sacking robins was wrong or right but something had to change and judging by the last few games those players weren’t going to do it for robins, if your comparing him to you know who ( don’t want to remind myself of those dark days ) then your miles off, clubs in a far better place,

 

[fernandopartridge]

Im not sure we did TBH. We got carved open basically at the first two attempts, I think with 11 they’d have been happy to keep doing that. Once they went down to ten we had no idea what to do really.

They went down to 10 and put literally 9 men behind the ball. It's difficult to break down but we kept going and did it in the end.

 

[shmmeee]

Why’s he a moron, he’s said himself he wants to bring in a director of football so he doesn’t have to make decisions on the playing side of things, won’t know if sacking robins was wrong or right but something had to change and judging by the last few games those players weren’t going to do it for robins, if your comparing him to you know who ( don’t want to remind myself of those dark days ) then your miles off, clubs in a far better place,

He’s making all the classic mistakes you worry someone new to the sport with a large ego would make.

The main one being thinking you know more about the sport than the people who have been living it their entire lives.

 

[shmmeee]

They went down to 10 and put literally 9 men behind the ball. It's difficult to break down but we kept going and did it in the end.

It’s a lot more difficult to break down when you play one up top and play all your football in front of them.

 

[Evo1883]

Why’s he a moron, he’s said himself he wants to bring in a director of football so he doesn’t have to make decisions on the playing side of things, won’t know if sacking robins was wrong or right but something had to change and judging by the last few games those players weren’t going to do it for robins, if your comparing him to you know who ( don’t want to remind myself of those dark days ) then your miles off, clubs in a far better place,

Not all fans are going to agree on a clubs owner .. for me he's already upset me enough to think he's a bellend .

For many he's the second coming of sheikh mansour.

That's life

 

[TomRad85]

Every owner is always the only game in town. “24 hours to save CCFC”

Sign up.... or Coventry City's future is bleak

Peaky Blinders wasn't set in Cov unfortunately so we didn't have some cringe American billionaire wanting to buy us off the back of it.

 

[shmmeee]

Robins beats a ten man team (even if the red was the last ten minutes): “Barely even a win, basically a gimme”

Carr fails to beat a ten man team: “Going against a ten man team is really tough, we broke them down in the end”

 

[shmmeee]

Peaky Blinders wasn't set in Cov unfortunately so we didn't have some cringe American billionaire wanting to buy us off the back of it.

Point is not many championship clubs disappear because they couldn’t find a buyer. Once we hear about a buyer talks are well progressed behind the scenes to the point there’s only one realistic party.

 

[Evo1883]

Robins beats a ten man team (even if the red was the last ten minutes): “Barely even a win, basically a gimme”

Carr fails to beat a ten man team: “Going against a ten man team is really tough, we broke them down in the end”

I don't think it was a good result tbh said the same yesterday but in fairness he's not a manager and I don't expect much else from him

 

[shmmeee]

I don't think it was a good result tbh said the same yesterday but in fairness he's not a manager and I don't expect much else from him

No same. He’s stepped up and fair play to him, I still think half his job has been done by a few stopping sulking. But I’ve seen nothing that suggests he’s some great tactical mastermind. Which considering he was first team coach under Robins is hardly surprising.

 

[fingers_crossed]

Blackburn was pretty routine.
Was Boro? Despite been down to 10 they gave us the runaround for long spells until we got the 2nd.

Blackburn - we were much better and swept them aside. Boro - probably the closest thing to it as the 3 flattered us.

I mean those close fought, unmemorable games where the important thing is to win. Promotion is built on winning those forgettable games. Last time we played Sheff Utd at home is a good example of one. Millwall and Plymouth from last season spring to mind too.

 

[Evo1883]

No same. He’s stepped up and fair play to him, I still think half his job has been done by a few stopping sulking. But I’ve seen nothing that suggests he’s some great tactical mastermind. Which considering he was first team coach under Robins is hardly surprising.

I think we played some decent stuff 1st half yesterday .. but second half we did nowhere near enough against 10 men and should have gone 2 up much earlier we would have won the game IMHO

 

[shmmeee]

Blackburn - we were much better and swept them aside. Boro - probably the closest thing to it as the 3 flattered us.

I mean those close fought, unmemorable games where the important thing is to win. Promotion is built on winning those forgettable games. Last time we played Sheff Utd at home is a good example of one. Millwall and Plymouth from last season spring to mind too.

It’s what you lose with no leadership and seemingly players not giving their all. The sort of matches decided by mindset not talent or luck.

 

[quinn1971]

Not all fans are going to agree on a clubs owner .. for me he's already upset me enough to think he's a bellend .

For many he's the second coming of sheikh mansour.

That's life

fair enough, but he’s a million miles away from those who won’t be mentioned, he’s made a few mistakes, he’s admitted that, the only reason why some fans have turned on him is he’s sacked robins, what if he’s got it spot on, remains to be seen if he did the right thing ?

 

[shmmeee]

fair enough, but he’s a million miles away from those who won’t be mentioned, he’s made a few mistakes, he’s admitted that, the only reason why some fans have turned on him is he’s sacked robins, what if he’s got it spot on, remains to be seen if he did the right thing ?

It’s not the sacking per se for me Quinn, it’s the clear meddling in the “deck” (saying we have enough midfielders, strong opinions on squad quality which aren’t borne out on the pitch, strong opinions on loans), and the ridiculous managerial candidate it seems he’s going with (big name, friend of the family).

 

[fernandopartridge]

It’s a lot more difficult to break down when you play one up top and play all your football in front of them.

They were sat very deep, you will have to play football in front of them. There wasn't any space in behind as they just set out to defend the penalty area.

What Carr did was introduce wider players to try to stretch the play and create gaps, it worked as we created chances.

 

[quinn1971]

I don't think it was a good result tbh said the same yesterday but in fairness he's not a manager and I don't expect much else from him

Only criticsm of Carr yesterday, should have Changed things at half time, stuck with one up front, we had 2 shots on target 2nd half against 10 men,, maybe more worried about losing than winning, should have just gone for it

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s what you lose with no leadership and seemingly players not giving their all. The sort of matches decided by mindset not talent or luck.

MR’s last interview saw him go on about players picking and choosing when to perform. That’s exactly what it was.

 

[Evo1883]

Only criticsm of Carr yesterday, should have Changed things at half time, stuck with one up front, we had 2 shots on target against 2nd half against 10 men,, maybe more worried about losing than winning, should have just gone for it

Yes I agree

 

[quinn1971]

It’s not the sacking per se for me Quinn, it’s the clear meddling in the “deck” (saying we have enough midfielders, strong opinions on squad quality which aren’t borne out on the pitch, strong opinions on loans), and the ridiculous managerial candidate it seems he’s going with (big name, friend of the family).

That’s what I mean, he knows he’s not a footballing man and the quicker a director of football comes in the better, yeah I’m with you about that midfields good enough comment , but when youv‘e invested millions into a team I guess you’ve got to say that, I wouldn’t read too much into that friends with Lampard rumour, he’s not putting his head on the block just to make his so called mate happy, he’s learning how to run a football club, and he’s not doing too bad, just leave the football side alone

 

[fingers_crossed]

Saw someone talking about Spurs’ “difference between their ceiling and their floor”, feels like we’ve had a lower floor than ever and our old floor is our new ceiling. Basically we’ve moved into a lower level flat.

Presumably the new manager was watching, I think he’ll be encouraged by what he saw. We have some good players and major surgery is not required. A settled formation, a couple of key additions in January and a winning mentality could transform us.

 

[quinn1971]

Yes I agree

Getting bored of as soon as the team sheet comes out it’s play, guess the line up,

 

[fingers_crossed]

It’s what you lose with no leadership and seemingly players not giving their all. The sort of matches decided by mindset not talent or luck.

I don’t think it’s players not giving their all, which is why I thought Wilder‘s criticisms were wrong.
I absolutely agree with you on leadership and mentality though. We‘ve always had leaders in the team and the dressing room, I think they’re missing at the moment.