Doug King programme notes (23 Viewers)

[pusbccfc]

I'd be pretty confident there are a fair chunk of our ST holders who other than knowing that SISU were bad probably do not know the full extent of our problems in the past

Spot on.

 

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[pusbccfc]

Well actually judging by the crowds

A lot of us were not

No Alex they were! They went to the Checkatrade trophy final!

 

[Otis]

So I assume you aren't hoping for Doug wearing just a Santa hat and nothing else behind door 24 of your CCFC advent calendar?

Why? Because he could then see how condescending his prick truly is?

 

[Samo]

What if King is right ?
What if Mark is not as good without a high quality coach along side him ? What if he was refusing to bring one in ?

What if tactically Mark is a bit short of what it takes at the top of the pyramid ?

King has several huge advantages over us.

He’s watched Mark at work most days, he’s discussed the issues with Mark in detail on multiple occasions, he’s heard what the players think of the relative merits of Mark and Adi, he will have heard what other people in the game think about Marks capabilities to take us to the next stage again.

We don’t have hardly any of those insights and yet some fans can’t open their mind to the very idea that King could be right. It’s very odd behaviour.

Yup.
Decisions are made at the top of every organisation that seem odd or wrong at the time but those lower down are not party to all the information and sometimes it takes years to become clear what went on, if ever.

 

[quinn1971]

He’s admitted he’s not a footballing man, he even mentioned he’s been getting advice from “ footballing people “ safe to say whoever has been giving him that advice will be coming in with the new head coach,

 

[Deity]

He’s admitted he’s not a footballing man, he even mentioned he’s been getting advice from “ footballing people “ safe to say whoever has been giving him that advice will be coming in with the new head coach,

Why ?

If he’s been talking to other CEO’s in the football world they wont be joining him .

 

[Nick]

I take King's words about Mark insistence on us having a flat coaching structure with a pinch of salt as we only have one side of the story and I expect will continue to only have one side of that story.

Robins has given his side of the story about the coaching structure.

 

[quinn1971]

Why ?

If he’s been talking to other CEO’s in the football world they wont be joining him .

He meant regarding the football side of things,

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Make your bloody mind up, Hill.
You're more wobbly than a jelly.

More like the two -tier Keir Starmer.

 

[M3rcian]

Robins has given his side of the story about the coaching structure.

Can you link please Nick?

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

Just because you use words with a few syllables doesn’t mean you’re intelligent.

I can be a top c**t but I’m good at my job. Doug King is a narcissistic c**t who’s shit at his job at our club, you’ve had a thesaurus last year for Christmas so you think you’re a clever c**t, when really you’re just as thick a c**t as everyone else apologising for good old Dougie Queen.

And you wonder why the media etc don't engage with you.

 

[Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue]

And you wonder why the media etc don't engage with you.

I got on yesterday thanks! Doug Queen apologist.

And yes all hail Lord Rob Gurney, another Cov Kid that Quit

 

[Nick]

Can you link please Nick?

It's from when the coaching structure changed.

 

[Rodders1]

This is true.

For me he ain't written anything wrong. It was a nice read. People having meltdowns about small things like this I worry for mental health wise.

I genuinely do not get the hate DK gets. Cleared the clubs debts, got rid of the awful owners. Made us much more sustainable and progressive as a club.

MR is a legend, of course he is, but time will tell if the next appointment will work. If not we’ll appoint another. The major positive here is we are not reliant on one man who will have eventually left anyway.

Ego or not. DK is the clubs chairman and i personally think a leader and someone willing to make big calls to progress us further is fantastic.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

I got on yesterday thanks! Doug Queen apologist.

And yes all hail Lord Rob Gurney, another Cov Kid that Quit

Grow up.

 

[stevenorfolkcov]

Sadly, in Doug King we have the worst of all worlds, a ruthless businessman (you have to be to get to his position) with no football knowledge who is 100% in charge and is therefore reliant on “advice” from Underling Advisors too afraid to challenge.

A great example is the Lampard fiasco:

DK says to one of his underling advisors “my mate knows Lampard, says he’s great, what do you think?”

Underling advisor replies “er, yes he’s great Doug, just like you”, despite really thinking, “really, why would anyone go for someone with such a terrible managerial record”.

And so, there we are, the Lampard era begins.

 

[quinn1971]

Sadly, in Doug King we have the worst of all worlds, a ruthless businessman (you have to be to get to his position) with no football knowledge who is 100% in charge and is therefore reliant on “advice” from Underling Advisors too afraid to challenge.

A great example is the Lampard fiasco:

DK says to one of his underling advisors “my mate knows Lampard, says he’s great, what do you think?”

Underling advisor replies “er, yes he’s great Doug, just like you”, despite really thinking, “really, why would anyone go for someone with such a terrible managerial record”.

And so, there we are, the Lampard era begins.

The Lampard fiasco ? he‘s doing exactly what he told us he’d do, it’s a massive decision he’s made, I’d be taking my time as well,

 

[pusbccfc]

Sadly, in Doug King we have the worst of all worlds, a ruthless businessman (you have to be to get to his position) with no football knowledge who is 100% in charge and is therefore reliant on “advice” from Underling Advisors too afraid to challenge.

A great example is the Lampard fiasco:

DK says to one of his underling advisors “my mate knows Lampard, says he’s great, what do you think?”

Underling advisor replies “er, yes he’s great Doug, just like you”, despite really thinking, “really, why would anyone go for someone with such a terrible managerial record”.

And so, there we are, the Lampard era begins.

Being a ruthless businessman isn't a bad thing, is it?

 

[stevenorfolkcov]

The Lampard fiasco ? he‘s doing exactly what he told us he’d do, it’s a massive decision he’s made, I’d be taking my time as well,

By fiasco, I purely mean appointing Lampard, rather than the time taken.

 

[stevenorfolkcov]

Being a ruthless businessman isn't a bad thing, is it?

In my view it is when you act like one in situations you know nothing about.

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

God I miss the halcyon days of Sisu and Wasps. Selling players to fund the following season, poor pitches, moved from our dressing room and having just two stands full of supporters. The endless conversations about the legality of the council selling our ground and our owners pursuing both them and Wasps for compensation. I hate the fact we now have stability on and off the pitch it's just boring in comparison. Seriously there are some bedwetters on this thread that probably think they will fall off the edge of the earth if they walk to far. We all admired Robins but DK thought he had reached his ceiling, god forbid Joy turning up to answer supporters questions. You all need to calm the histrionics down it's fucking embarrassing.

 

[quinn1971]

By fiasco, I purely mean appointing Lampard, rather than the time taken.

Whoever comes in it’s a risk, there’s nobody who’s available who you can say is def the right man, lampards managed in the championship once and nearly got derby promoted if he’d of stayed at derby a bit longer he might have done even better, the next season, took the Chelsea job too early ( you can’t blame him) but did ok, everyone struggles at Everton and his 2nd go at Chelsea was just to fill in, he could be perfect for us,

 

[covcity4life]

God I miss the halcyon days of Sisu and Wasps. Selling players to fund the following season, poor pitches, moved from our dressing room and having just two stands full of supporters. The endless conversations about the legality of the council selling our ground and our owners pursuing both them and Wasps for compensation. I hate the fact we now have stability on and off the pitch it's just boring in comparison. Seriously there are some bedwetters on this thread that probably think they will fall off the edge of the earth if they walk to far. We all admired Robins but DK thought he had reached his ceiling, god forbid Joy turning up to answer supporters questions. You all need to calm the histrionics down it's fucking embarrassing.

This!

Seriously take a step back and remember the sisu era and then ask yourself what has king done wrong other than reluctantly sack an amazing servant to this club.

 

[clint van damme]

We once had sisu so submissively accept anything as long as it's not them.

No thanks.

 

[quinn1971]

Lampard could be perfect, think robins problem was the teams picked itself for 2 seasons, this season he’s had players knocking his door asking why they’re not playing, he’s had to manage a few Egos this season, like bassette, didn’t even get on the pitch for 3 games, lampards worked with plenty of egos, plays a system we’ve recruited for in the summer, knows the game at the highest level , personally think he’ll do a great job,

 

[stevenorfolkcov]

Whoever comes in it’s a risk, there’s nobody who’s available who you can say is def the right man, lampards managed in the championship once and nearly got derby promoted if he’d of stayed at derby a bit longer he might have done even better, the next season, took the Chelsea job too early ( you can’t blame him) but did ok, everyone struggles at Everton and his 2nd go at Chelsea was just to fill in, he could be perfect for us,

I hope you are right - personally though, I think Lampard will be too expensive, have too many demands and lose interest quickly.

I am actually not disappointed about Robins going, just desperately disappointed that King is focusing on a “friend of a friend” instead of looking for some talent.

 

[clint van damme]

I hope you are right - personally though, I think Lampard will be too expensive, have too many demands and lose interest quickly.

I am actually not disappointed about Robins going, just desperately disappointed that King is focusing on a “friend of a friend” instead of looking for some talent.

Lampard wouldn't have been my choice but I don't agree with the losing interest comment.

One think I do expect from him is commitment and professionalism.

 

[covcity4life]

We once had sisu so submissively accept anything as long as it's not them.

No thanks.

Accept what tho? Other than reluctantly sacking the manager what has he done that makes him a terrible owner???

 

[clint van damme]

Accept what tho? Other than reluctantly sacking the manager what has he done that makes him a terrible owner???

I've never said he's a terrible owner.
But I think he's made some mistakes and I'll criticise them as and when they occur.

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

God I miss the halcyon days of Sisu and Wasps. Selling players to fund the following season, poor pitches, moved from our dressing room and having just two stands full of supporters. The endless conversations about the legality of the council selling our ground and our owners pursuing both them and Wasps for compensation. I hate the fact we now have stability on and off the pitch it's just boring in comparison. Seriously there are some bedwetters on this thread that probably think they will fall off the edge of the earth if they walk to far. We all admired Robins but DK thought he had reached his ceiling, god forbid Joy turning up to answer supporters questions. You all need to calm the histrionics down it's fucking embarrassing.

Yes indeed some people have short memories.

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

We once had sisu so submissively accept anything as long as it's not them.

No thanks.

You need to suck it up, you don't pull any strings. 90% of supporters hated Sisu and all the complaints and protests achieved fuck all. You now think you can do the same with a man who has saved the club, theoretically speaking from previous idiots and far less of the fan base are in agreement with you. Carry on screaming at the wind, the rest of us have moved on.

 

[clint van damme]

You need to suck it up, you don't pull any strings. 90% of supporters hated Sisu and all the complaints and protests achieved fuck all. You now think you can do the same with a man who has saved the club, theoretically speaking from previous idiots and far less of the fan base are in agreement with you. Carry on screaming at the wind, the rest of us have moved on.

I'll moan about it if I want thanks. I couldn't give a fuck if you've moved on or not, though I'm not sure what you're referring to there.

 

[pusbccfc]

In my view it is when you act like one in situations you know nothing about.

But the business side of this football club is massive and in all areas it seems to have improved.

The business side seems to help when asking for transfer fees too?

 

[pusbccfc]

We once had sisu so submissively accept anything as long as it's not them.

No thanks.

Is there anything you like about Doug? Anything you've been happy with that he's done?

 

[clint van damme]

Is there anything you like about Doug? Anything you've been happy with that he's done?

He's been great for the club.
I've never been a fan of the Ricoh, still not really, but the matchday experience is the best it's ever been as far as Im concerned and that's due to the improvements he's brought in.

He also seems to have made massive improvements commercially, so yeah, lots. But lots of mistakes as well, (and even on some of them he's been big enough to row back).

I'd imagine it's the same at most clubs, but they probably don't have loads of supporters who slavishly agree with every decision their owners make.