Frank Lampard Rumours (190 Viewers)

[gspotgaz]

Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?

Sexist

 

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[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Looking forward to the start of a new era, dont like the fact Robins has gone still but willing to support whoever is in our dugout as they have their hands full with this squad.
A squad of top ability underperforming, shot of confidence and lacking edge. We need FL to get the best out of them and for that we need to get behind him, I think its time for Kitching to come back in especially as FL plays a back 4 mostly.
I think we need someone of the likes of Rob Holding to come in 29 experience could be our Pontus Janson but could also be our Ashley Williams. But its a risk I’d be willing to take.
Doug defo needs to lean into FL connections and get some loans in, Alex Matos for Midfield could be good can also play RW played half a season at this level last year, Harvey Vale can play all the way up the left side and CAM would be top class, or potentially we could sign Marco van Ginkel get him fit and ready for next season unless he’s been disciplined and just needs to get sharp

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Just seen that the contract is rumoured to be a two and a half year deal with an option to extend

 

[CCFCSteve]

Loans aren't necessarily cheap as often the parent club demands a loan fee - which can be substantial - as well as requiring that some or all of the player's wages are covered.

We could trade them one of our spare coaches

 

[David O'Day]

Okay, once again she has no on field performance responsibilities.

This was clarified at the forum.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?

Did you listen to King at the conference?

Her remit is not related to the on-pitch performance. It’s all about the team’s strength and conditioning, nutrition, sleep hygiene and so on. Apparently the team is as ‘fit’ as it’s ever been and performing higher on these metrics than before she came in.

We’ve scored 10 goals in the 76-90m which is the joint highest in the EFL so there’s clearly an impact on real match performance.

 

[False9]

No he won't be, he was sacked in his first actual managers job.

He won't be on manager wages as a coach

Probably not but he will be on a much bigger wage than any of our current coaches

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Did you listen to King at the conference?

Her remit is not related to the on-pitch performance. It’s all about the team’s strength and conditioning, nutrition, sleep hygiene and so on. Apparently the team is as ‘fit’ as it’s ever been and performing higher on these metrics than before she came in.

We’ve scored 10 goals in the 76-90m which is the joint highest in the EFL so there’s clearly an impact on real match performance.

Just to further add, if you are struggling with her role, its basically head of sports science

 

[David O'Day]

Probably not but he will be on a much bigger wage than any of our current coaches

Will he? Doubtful but if you have proof please feel free to share this.

 

[False9]

Robins had a lot of control and imo, the manager needs to have as much ‘power’ as possible in terms of recruitment (i.e. sign-off) and coaching structure. This logic applied to Robins as much as his successor.

Give Lampard everything he needs to have success in the role and then there’s no excuse if he fails. He’s going to be a lot better connected than MR ever was so the optimism I have is that he’ll be able to bring in high quality coaches with him.

It may be harsh on the existing coaching setup but even by Robins own admission, he chose them and they were ‘growing in the role’. The best case view of this is that they are ‘developing’ into the level required. The worst case, is that they’re out of their depth and that leap of faith from MR probably cost him his job.

Worst case in the Lampard era is we have to sack him and the staff and pay out another fortune.

There is no guarantee he delivers more than Robins would have with the same resources.

It's a big risk and perhaps it works out. I thought we were being run sustainably and sensibly but this decision seems at odds with that perception.

 

[bigfatronssba]

The consensus seems to be that this is Lampard's last chance to manage in the top 2 divisions.

If that is the case, you'd have to assume then that King has made some significant promises around transfer budgets

 

[False9]

Will he? Doubtful but if you have proof please feel free to share this.

You're very belligerent, obviously I don't have proof.

Logic suggests the former England youth, Chelsea, Everton assistant and Millwall manager is being paid a lot more than the likes of John Dempster.

 

[pusbccfc]

The consensus seems to be that this is Lampard's last chance to manage in the top 2 divisions.

If that is the case, you'd have to assume then that King has made some significant promises around transfer budgets

Lampard will be doing everything to make this a success. It's a good thing for us.

He will have aspirations for that England job post-Tuchel.

 

[False9]

King can’t win can he, if he brings someone in and allows them to hire their own preferred staff it’s risky but if he brought in a head coach and makes them work with what we’ve got he’d be “cheap”.

It's the cost of the staff and Lampard that worries me with his track record.

There's nothing to suggest he's going to improve what we had so why bother gambling.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Just to further add, if you are struggling with her role, its basically head of sports science

I really don’t understand why people are getting hung up on the ‘Performance’ part of her job title.

People are just frustrated at things and wanted to point fingers at anyone but Robins. In no particular order, it was AV being pushed out, the flat coaching setup, then Dr Roberts and DK undermining MR.

Then DK said MR ended it with AV and decided on the unpopular coaching setup up… it was King throwing Robins under bus. The record needed to be set straight because of the poisonous narratives being put out.

It never made sense.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Worst case in the Lampard era is we have to sack him and the staff and pay out another fortune.

There is no guarantee he delivers more than Robins would have with the same resources.

It's a big risk and perhaps it works out. I thought we were being run sustainably and sensibly but this decision seems at odds with that perception.

By that definition, any manager is a risk. Even hiring a manager who wanted to bring in no staff even though King thought there was a lack of elite coaches in the setup.

 

[False9]

By that definition, any manager is a risk. Even hiring a manager who wanted to bring in no staff even though King thought there was a lack of elite coaches in the setup.

Let's see what he does with players transfers but it could become a complete change in approach from king.

That would be a big risk and aligns is to the rest of the championship promotion chasers. Boom and bust.

 

[bigfatronssba]

I really don’t understand why people are getting hung up on the ‘Performance’ part of her job title.

People are just frustrated at things and wanted to point fingers at anyone but Robins. In no particular order, it was AV being pushed out, the flat coaching setup, then Dr Roberts and DK undermining MR.

Then DK said MR ended it with AV and decided on the unpopular coaching setup up… it was King throwing Robins under bus. The record needed to be set straight because of the poisonous narratives being put out.

It never made sense.

Its common thing in the modern world. People have fancy job titles which give no clue as to what they actually do.

Like at my place - "Senior Systems Analyst" is the bloke that resets your password when you forget it

 

[David O'Day]

You're very belligerent, obviously I don't have proof.

Logic suggests the former England youth, Chelsea, Everton assistant and Millwall manager is being paid a lot more than the likes of John Dempster.

You said he would be on similar wages to Robins fella, no one mentioned John Dempster.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Let's see what he does with players transfers but it could become a complete change in approach from king.

That would be a big risk and aligns is to the rest of the championship promotion chasers. Boom and bust.

We spent close to £45m under Robins. We’re already in the boom and bust cycle!

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Always been curious how this works do they sign the manager and then the coaches or do they all sign together cause I imagine that’s a lot of moving parts

 

[mrfr]

Lampard will be doing everything to make this a success. It's a good thing for us.

He will have aspirations for that England job post-Tuchel.

That assumes his problem so far has been a lack of application whereas the consensus seems to be that what he has demonstrated in his coaching career to date is a lack of ability. Maybe he has worked on that and made significant strides and is ready to prove himself, but trying harder doesn’t make you a world beater. If it did Andy Morrell would’ve got 100 England caps.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?

Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

We spent close to £45m under Robins. We’re already in the boom and bust cycle!

Don’t think for a second Doug changes model. Way too headstrong for that

 

[David O'Day]

Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too

she has fuck all to do with the team on the pitch, as i said to wingy this was clarified at the forum

 

[David O'Day]

That assumes his problem so far has been a lack of application whereas the consensus seems to be that what he has demonstrated in his coaching career to date is a lack of ability. Maybe he has worked on that and made significant strides and is ready to prove himself, but trying harder doesn’t make you a world beater. If it did Andy Morrell would’ve got 100 England caps.

or maybe he has looked around and studied new tactics etc.

 

[Perennial Lurker]

Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too

Our form is all her fault when she has nothing to do with the football side of things ?
Great logic

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Hopefully out the door, things have been terrible since she’s come in

She can take Austin with her too

She’s head of sport science bud,

 

[standupforcity]

When you actually stop and think about it....Lampard instead of Robins! Crazy huh?? I mean when it truly sinks in...OMG!!!

 

[Otis]

Bidwell is fine. There is another myth that needs debunking which says JDS is more progressive. I can't think of a single goal he's created. I could be wrong, but can't recall one.

That's the most annoying thing. He works the ball up the pitch very well to just outside the opposition's box, only to then pretty much always fail to deliver any meaningful cross into the box.

 

[MalcSB]

Where does this leave the performance director?
Assume she'll still be required, but hss she improved us in any way?

Apparently we now have Premier levels of fitness, as is obvious watching the team.

Premier Inn, of course. They can change a super King duvet in a jiffy.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

That's the most annoying thing. He works the ball up very well to just outside the opposition's box, only to then pretty much always fail to deliver any meaningful cross into the box.

Which is weird when you consider he’s got a decent delivery at corners if I’m not wrong

 

[Nick]

Somebody from "Sky Blue Extra" on TalkSport.

 

[Boicey]

It's the cost of the staff and Lampard that worries me with his track record.

There's nothing to suggest he's going to improve what we had so why bother gambling.

What we had was a relegation zone team, demoralised, players out of position, poor basics skills, unclear first 11, unclear formation and a manager who looked lost as to what to do.
Let's hope we can improve on that.

 

[MalcSB]

Sexist

How is that sexist?