We would have been better off with Robins (22 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

I talked to Doug once too. You should show more respect to me as a board level employee of CCFC.

You’ve come back very silly.

 

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[shmmeee]

To be honest, I’d rather not having the looming financial panic every season and be Stoke then go back to how it was off the field but each to there own.

Well always have looming financial panic until we are established in the Prem or happy in L1. Aren’t you worried about what happens in 3.5 years when Doug is bored and we aren’t promoted?

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Well always have looming financial panic until we are established in the Prem or happy in L1. Aren’t you worried about what happens in 3.5 years when Doug is bored and we aren’t promoted?

Until Doug came in we had to discount sell one of our best players to keep the lights on. We are a long way away from that with the commercial side being better than ever.

Can’t predict the future but happier now than when we had to move home every five minutes or when a manager had to pay out of pocket to do up the training ground which we used to be ashamed to show players

 

[Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue]

That’s if you believe every word that comes out of King’s mouth, of course.

If you believe every word that comes out of Doug’s mouth then you must believe in Santa.

Most of the comments dickhead Doug come across as a scoffing public school boy and he’s quick to point the blame at everyone else. Doug wants to play Director of Football, I wonder why Norwich (his club) didn’t want his investment.

The calls with disabled tickets and family zone that he had to back track on, show how detached toff Doug is from reality.

 

[shmmeee]

Until Doug came in we had to discount sell one of our best players to keep the lights on. We are a long way away from that with the commercial side being better than ever.

Can’t predict the future but happier now than when we had to move home every five minutes or when a manager had to pay out of pocket to do up the training ground which we used to be ashamed to show players

We still don’t have a secure home by EFL definitions, just saying. And if a shit training ground was stopping the current footballing geniuses from signings maybe it wasn’t holding us back that much.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

We still don’t have a secure home by EFL definitions, just saying. And if a shit training ground was stopping the current footballing geniuses from signings maybe it wasn’t holding us back that much.

EFL Definitions relate to national league sides but see your point will however say that this is the most stable we’ve been home wise since 2008.

And on one hand you support mark and what he wanted but then shit on Marks biggest bugbear since he joined the club. He even said it put off targets when he spoke about it this window.

I didn’t think it would be controversial to say that as a cov fan who only knew sisu, that’ll I’ll happily be a stoke than back to where we were both financially and on the pitch

 

[shmmeee]

EFL Definitions relate to national league sides but see your point will however say that this is the most stable we’ve been home wise since 2008.

And on one hand you support mark and what he wanted but then shit on Marks biggest bugbear since he joined the club. He even said it put off targets when he spoke about it this window.

I didn’t think it would be controversial to say that as a cov fan who only knew sisu, that’ll I’ll happily be a stoke than back to where we were both financially and on the pitch

Im not shitting on it. I’m sure it’s important. I just think given £35m I’d rather hand it to Boddy and Badlan than King and Austin.

 

[SBT]

You’ve come back very silly.

It’s silly to insinuate that our head sports scientist sits on some kind of shadowy board that works to outmanoeuvre Frank Lampard on all football decisions! I’m treating this with the precise amount of silliness it deserves!

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Im not shitting on it. I’m sure it’s important. I just think given £35m I’d rather hand it to Boddy and Badlan than King and Austin.

Tell you what, meet you half way. Would rather we have the 35 million to King and Badlan.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Well we appointed someone in a director level position whose role was specifically stated to include exactly that so I think that's probably where I would start if that question is being asked.

The issues are on the pitch and the first person to get the chop had to be Robins. Not DA nor Dr Roberts.

Last season, we had 2 20 goal a season strikers, one of the best midfielders in the league. Added one of L1s best outfield players, Rudoni, WBA’s top scorer, a promising striker in Bassette.

The team is a lot better than last season, so there’s no excuse for us to be where we are. Robins, the staff and players admitted there were trying new tactics and a new way of doing things and that has fundamentally changed. Those same players can not have become that bad overnight.

What did change was the level of coaches at the club, we went from AV and DL to Rhys Carr, Boateng and promoted youth team coaches. It became evident they weren’t up to the job and that cost MR his job. The good thing is that Lampard’s 2 coaches are frankly, overqualified on paper.

It’s over to Lampard now to undo a mess that wasn’t created by him. The consensus, internally and externally, is that we do have a great team and I agree with that. Genuinely, 2-3 signings to this team and Wright returning takes it up several gears.

 

[Captain Dart]

If you believe every word that comes out of Doug’s mouth then you must believe in Santa.

Doug....

 

[Sick Boy]

Roberts is in het first proper job

Really?

 

[fernandopartridge]

Really?

I think he means first job involved in a real football club rather than a fairly abstract role in a governing body

 

[JoeCCFCPUSB]

BTA Top scorer for WBA last season

And they were happy to sell him.

 

[Captain Dart]

And they were happy to sell him.

Otherwise he would have sat out the remaining year of contract. I'm not convinced yet I don't think so many are.

 

[Evo1883]

When doug was throwing robins under the bus he made the point about us only having 26 points by Christmas and yapped about how bad that would be and how bad it would be for the players etc ..

Well we are on 21 points with 2 games to go doug

 

[Grendel]

Roberts is in het first proper job and I really don’t get the entire role of Performanxe Director at her level. Someone in charge of player fitness under the management team fair enough, but why you need that at board level I’m not sure. The coaches that haven’t left are generally in their first first team role. Austin is in his first Head of Recruitment role of any significance, King his first chairman role in football. I don’t know much about the COO. I just haven’t seen anything but some nice landscape gardening that I think it an improvement on Dave Boddy with a fag packet and a pocket full of pennies.

She isn’t at board level

 

[COVKIDSNEVERQUIT]

The players are just shit, simple

I’d have canned pretty much all of them before Robins and I’d can pretty much all of them before Lampard

Other than Haji Wright any player we have could be sold tomorrow and I probably wouldn’t shed one tear

I’m done pissing away money, effort and annual leave following this squad of players as much as possible, I’m not enthusiastic about them enough to continue justifying it - To get served the slop we did at Burnley and last night in the middle of the week with work the next day is a kick in the teeth in particular

Mate honestly, you know I’ve stuck up for this squad numerous times this season but even my patience has been completely drained with them, it’s the same shit goals to concede and same basic errors week after week and it is showing no signs of changing

They take one step forward on Saturday and then two immediately back once again, I don’t think it’s down to a lack of effort or care I just don’t think they are very good

For what it’s worth I don’t think we will be getting relegated there is enough there to not go down or be near it but I think we’ll be mired in the bottom half - After we all talked this season and squad up in the summer what a damp squib

Oh well, of all the clubs in the country we were probably the ones due a pretty dull and insipid season after the last few years

Chin up mate, don't let the buggers get you down, when you've had 60 years of it you become hardened to it.

There's always hope maybe next season who knows.

 

[Frostie]

When doug was throwing robins under the bus he made the point about us only having 26 points by Christmas and yapped about how bad that would be and how bad it would be for the players etc ..

Well we are on 21 points with 2 games to go doug

 

[Evo1883]

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Fact is we've won 1 in 6 since he sacked robins

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Fact is we've won 1 in 6 since he sacked robins

Not helped by him taking 3 weeks to appoint the bloke he’d decided on before Robins was even sacked.

 

[skybluetony176]

I said when Robins was sacked if we were replacing him with Lampard then what was the point of sacking Robins in the first place.

But he’s here now so he’s got to be given time and a transfer window. So at least Easter. If it’s too late by Easter let’s face it, it’s already too late.

Let’s also face it, the whole process was botched. King clearly didn’t have anyone lined up, we were hardly inundated with applications and to top it all off we laboured appointing Lampard and he lost an international break and an ideal opportunity to coach the team for a week before playing a game. He’s hardly joined at a good time.

Hopefully he can turn things around and prove his doubters (myself included) wrong.

 

[Great_Expectations]

 

[Deity]

Not writing Lampard off and here's here so he'll have my full support. But I don't see Lampard getting any more out of this group of players than Robins would.

He’s had 3 matches and 2 weeks of training and you’re judging him relative to Robins. Very odd.

 

[shmmeee]

He’s had 3 matches and 2 weeks of training and you’re judging him relative to Robins. Very odd.

Isn’t the entire point supposed to be that he’s loads better? Who else are we supposed to compare him to if not the bloke he replaced?

 

[Covcraig@bury]

 

[ccfc1234]

Given the lack of 'new manager bounce' and articles like this, if we don't get a decent points return from the next 6 fixtures I can see Lampard coming under real pressure. His recent record including his time at Chelsea (2nd spell) is abject.

With regards to the OP I genuinely don't think we can say after 3 games if Robins would have done better but if we don't get a decent points return from a long run of very winnable games then the answer has to be yes.

 

[Deity]

Isn’t the entire point supposed to be that he’s loads better? Who else are we supposed to compare him to if not the bloke he replaced?

Your supposed to give a new manager time to repair the obvious damage And to put foundations in for future success.

 

[PVA]

He’s had 3 matches and 2 weeks of training and you’re judging him relative to Robins. Very odd.

No I'm not judging, I'm taking a guess at what I think might happen. Not sure why that's odd.

I might be wrong, I hope I am.

 

[lord_garrincha]

Given the lack of 'new manager bounce' and articles like this, if we don't get a decent points return from the next 6 fixtures I can see Lampard coming under real pressure. His recent record including his time at Chelsea (2nd spell) is abject.

We had a lot on here saying you can't include the end of last season with this season's results with MR... Now we are adding on another clubs results from 22/23!!!

 

[Sick Boy]

I said when Robins was sacked if we were replacing him with Lampard then what was the point of sacking Robins in the first place.

But he’s here now so he’s got to be given time and a transfer window. So at least Easter. If it’s too late by Easter let’s face it, it’s already too late.

Let’s also face it, the whole process was botched. King clearly didn’t have anyone lined up, we were hardly inundated with applications and to top it all off we laboured appointing Lampard and he lost an international break and an ideal opportunity to coach the team for a week before playing a game. He’s hardly joined at a good time.

Hopefully he can turn things around and prove his doubters (myself included) wrong.

 

[Evo1883]

The worst thing about everything is before I always felt like we were a club that would go places under robins even though we had tough periods I always felt that we'd push on at some point .. at the moment I just worry about us , I feel like we're just that coventry city we used to be and we have no direction or nothing to look forward to .

Hopefully it works out for us and lampard

I really really don't like doug king though I will struggle to change that feeling

 

[chiefdave]

He’s had 3 matches and 2 weeks of training and you’re judging him relative to Robins. Very odd.

Why should we not expect the new manager bounce every other club has?

 

[pusbccfc]

So how did they manage to go on such a good run for 3 months last season?
I mean, I'm pretty much with you, they look below average to me, but they hit an incredible vein of form for at least a 3rd of last season, how did that happen?

This guy helped...

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

The worst thing about everything is before I always felt like we were a club that would go places under robins even though we had tough periods I always felt that we'd push on at some point .. at the moment I just worry about us , I feel like we're just that coventry city we used to be and we have no direction or nothing to look forward to .

Hopefully it works out for us and lampard

I really really don't like doug king though I will struggle to change that feeling

Sums up how I feel pretty well. Struggling to find any sort of optimism that we’re going to compete in this league based on King’s tenure so far.