Liam Kitching (8 Viewers)

shmmeee

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Makes it even stranger that MR reportedly pursued him for so long.

The footballing world isn’t massive, surely the due diligence was done.

So either the rumours are bollocks, we didn’t do our homework or MR thought he could manage it.

Regardless he’s poor at the minute and I prefer Binks.

You tell just from looking at him he’s a prick tbh.
 

Viktor17

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Surely spells end for him? Can’t get game when we are so poor and chopping and changing.

think if we can cut our losses in Jan be best for all.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Surely spells end for him? Can’t get game when we are so poor and chopping and changing.

think if we can cut our losses in Jan be best for all.
Lampard has 4 games as manager, he still needs time to figure out his best team and what he needs to improve the squad.
 

clint van damme

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Lampard has 4 games as manager, he still needs time to figure out his best team and what he needs to improve the squad.

I do think it's telling that he's made changes at CB and Kitching still hasn't got a look in.
If he doesn't play over Christmas/New year in some capacity then I think it's safe to say he's not in the managers long term plans.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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Think we need to be pragmatic with Kitching.

No club realistically is going to buy him in January and you have to wonder whether DK is going to willingly sanction a pennies on the pound deal for him if a miracle happened and one took a serious interest.

A loan is probably more realistic and better in the long term as it at least allows him to put himself out on the market for the summer.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Think we need to be pragmatic with Kitching.

No club realistically is going to buy him in January and you have to wonder whether DK is going to willingly sanction a pennies on the pound deal for him if a miracle happened and one took a serious interest.

A loan is probably more realistic and better in the long term as it at least allows him to put himself out on the market for the summer.
Loan is realistic. Only way I could see him going perm would be a cash and Kitching as opposed to just selling Kitching at this point.
 

Hutch11

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Kitching is a decent centre half and will get game time soon
If something happened behind the scenes previously he'll get a clean slate with Frank
Him and Thomas looked a very promising partnership at one point
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I do think it's telling that he's made changes at CB and Kitching still hasn't got a look in.
If he doesn't play over Christmas/New year in some capacity then I think it's safe to say he's not in the managers long term plans.

He’s only swapped Lati and Binks around twice. It really is too soon to say and if we win our next 2-3 games, I don’t think the team will change much because why would you change a winning team?

Lampard is still getting to know the team and the characters but one thing is for sure, we’re still conceding poor goals so at some point you probably have to consider playing Kitching.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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He’s only swapped Lati and Binks around twice. It really is too soon to say and if we win our next 2-3 games, I don’t think the team will change much because why would you change a winning team?

Lampard is still getting to know the team and the characters but one thing is for sure, we’re still conceding poor goals so at some point you probably have to consider playing Kitching.

We're still conceding crap goals though. Even yesterday again it was really sloppy by all involved.

Like you said there's been rotation at CB to try and find a unit that works well together and FL hasn't opted for Kitching in the Starting XI.

For me, Lati coming in at LCB was a pretty big tell of where Kitching is in the pecking order.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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We're still conceding crap goals though. Even yesterday again it was really sloppy by all involved.

Like you said there's been rotation at CB to try and find a unit that works well together and FL hasn't opted for Kitching in the Starting XI.

For me, Lati coming in at LCB was a pretty big tell of where Kitching is in the pecking order.
Again, it’s 4 games in so you can take what you will from it… things rapidly change. The only constant in defence atm is Thomas and MVE. The rest of the spots are up for grabs.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Again, it’s 4 games in so you can take what you will from it… things rapidly change. The only constant in defence atm is Thomas and MVE. The rest of the spots are up for grabs.

I take the point that it's only 4 games, but again it doesn't look great for Kitching's future at the club when an it gets to the point where FL wants to shake things up and favours an inconsistent Latibeaudiere over him in his favoured position.

It's not really a case of taking what I want from it that's the reality at present.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I take the point that it's only 4 games, but again it doesn't look great for Kitching's future at the club when an it gets to the point where FL wants to shake things up and favours an inconsistent Latibeaudiere over him in his favoured position.

It's not really a case of taking what I want from it that's the reality at present.

He tried Lati at CB v Millwall and we kept a clean sheet which is a rarity this season so WBA was always going to be unchanged. You look at the soft goals v Cardiff and Hull Lampard may look to change things up again v Pompey. Personally, I think he should start Thomas-Kitching but that’s neither here nor there.

However, I doubt that because there needs to be some consistency with the lineup. Just as I criticised the chopping and changing of forward players, the same is true of the backline.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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He tried Lati at CB v Millwall and we kept a clean sheet which is a rarity this season so WBA was always going to be unchanged. You look at the soft goals v Cardiff and Hull Lampard may look to change things up again v Pompey. Personally, I think he should start Thomas-Kitching but that’s neither here nor there.

However, I doubt that because there needs to be some consistency with the lineup. Just as I criticised the chopping and changing of forward players, the same is true of the backline.

Exactly, and chopping and changing CBs is something managers / head coaches traditionally just don't do. It affects continuity and doesn't allow a pairing (in the case of playing in a back four) to build any kind of cohesion with one another. It'll get to a point where FL will stick with his chosen CBs and bar injury or suspension that will probably be it until the end of the season.

If another CB comes in, in January, which you'd hope is likely, Kitching is only likely to be pushed further down the pecking order.

I just don't really see any avenue where he gets back into the Starting XI on a consistent basis.
 

wingy

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1st half yesterday was 60% possession and 87%pass completion, don't know about the 2nd half but I'd guess something similar, long may that continue,yes we conceded on the counter but the intent was clearly there from the off IMO!
 

Offhegoes

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Binks, Kitching, Lat & Thomas were signed to play in a back 3. I’m not sure Lati and Binks are suited to play in a back four, although they could be useful in other positions.
When Binks plays in a 3 he has more space to move forward and use his obvious passing skills.
 

fatso

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I do think it's telling that he's made changes at CB and Kitching still hasn't got a look in.
If he doesn't play over Christmas/New year in some capacity then I think it's safe to say he's not in the managers long term plans.
Lampard has given Tavares more minutes than Kitching, if that doesn't tell you your times up, then fuck knows what does!
 

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