Why Collins? (2 Viewers)

[chiefdave]

He's hardly going to come out and say he is going to make a change is he, giving intel to Plymouth...

Is he planning a tactical masterclass of playing a keeper that saves a shot occasionally. Think Plymouth would be more surprised if Collins did play given his recent performances.

 

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[SBT]

The way I read it was that FL was saying no he isn't prepared to say whether or not he will be making sure change.

Go back and watch it...I agree with you it's ambiguous, but if I had to say one way or the other then I would say he's giving Collins a vote of confidence and keeping him in the side.

 

[fernandopartridge]

He rated him enough to bring him in and play him ahead of Wilson, who had just had his best season for us. Buck stops with Robins I'm afraid .

TBF Wilson started the season and was rubbish. Collins came and was better so stayed in.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

TBF Wilson started the season and was rubbish. Collins came and was better so stayed in.

It's a very low bar

 

[clint van damme]

If he does start then we need to support him.
Sarcastic cheering and getting on his case aren't going to help.

 

[clint van damme]

It's a very low bar

Pity the same couldn't be said for the goals, we might not concede as many!

 

[skybluecam]

Go back and watch it...I agree with you it's ambiguous, but if I had to say one way or the other then I would say he's giving Collins a vote of confidence and keeping him in the side.

Nah, he's saying he's not prepared to say.

He mentioned there was competition in goal. I'll be shocked if Dovin doesn't play.

 

[napolimp]

If he does start then we need to support him.
Sarcastic cheering and getting on his case aren't going to help.

Then if he does flap at the ball repeatedly, and let in 3 goals, should we given him a round of applause at the end of the game, and post cat memes to his Instagram.

 

[clint van damme]

Then if he does flap at the ball repeatedly, and let in 3 goals, should we given him a round of applause at the end of the game, and post cat memes to his Instagram.

What a strange comment.

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

What a strange comment.

I found it amusing , Collins should not play it's best if he doesn't play and best for the team.

 

[clint van damme]

I found it amusing , Collins should not play it's best if he doesn't play and best for the team.

I agree he shouldn't play. But if he does I'm not sure giving him shit is going to inspire him to perform better.
If it did I'd be slating and booing several of them from the minute the whistle blew.

 

[napolimp]

I agree he shouldn't play. But if he does I'm not sure giving him shit is going to inspire him to perform better.
If it did I'd be slating and booing several of them from the minute the whistle blew.

The only person I'd want to inspire is Lampard... to drop Collins.

 

[clint van damme]

The only person I'd want to inspire is Lampard... to drop Collins.

But if he doesnt, and I hope he does, I think the best thing we can do is get behind him
Why anyone would want to get on a keepers case, one who's clearly devoid of confidence, during a game is baffling.

 

[napolimp]

But if he doesnt, and I hope he does, I think the best thing we can do is get behind him
Why anyone would want to get on a keepers case, one who's clearly devoid of confidence, during a game is baffling.

I'd genuinely rather help him get dropped than give him encouragement. If I didn't think he was a complete write off then I'd agree with you.

 

[clint van damme]

I'd genuinely rather help him get dropped than give him encouragement. If I didn't think he was a complete right off then I'd agree with you.

I've been calling for him to be replaced since last season so my opinion of him was already low before his latest buffoonery.

But when he's on that pitch I'll give him my support, just like the other useless twats who I wish weren't playing.

 

[Adge]

I've been calling for him to be replaced since last season so my opinion of him was already low before his latest buffoonery.

But when he's on that pitch I'll give him my support, just like the other useless twats who I wish weren't playing.

When does it get to the point when enough is enough? The above seems to imply that you will support him no matter what. If he made another 2,5,10,50 mistakes?

 

[clint van damme]

When does it get to the point when enough is enough? The above seems to imply that you will support him no matter what. If he made another 2,5,10,50 mistakes?

I haven't wanted him in the team since last season. I don't want Dasilva in the team, I don't want Binks in the team and I'm not to keen on Sheaf being in there either
But while the manager is picking them, I'll support them.

I'm not going boo a player when he's out on the pitch trying to help get the team 3 points which is what I'm there hoping you see.

If someone can provide me with evidence that booing and sarccastically clapping players contributes towards improving their performance thsn I change my opinion on that.

 

[Adge]

Indeed-yes I said it’s counterproductive. I’m sorry, I just can’t give Collins my “support” anymore and that does not mean I will be booing him. Saturday was unacceptable.

 

[Hutch11]

Sarcastic cheering, clapping and booing can't do anyone any good but he shouldn't be put in the position to get it

 

[shmmeee]

I thought we were harsh but it’s broken containment to non city football people and the reaction is even worse

 

[rob9872]

If Lampard selects him knowing there's likely to be an unhelpful reaction, then whilst you might argue he's in charge, you'd have to question his understanding and logic. After his record before us and replacing a popular manager, the last thing he needs is questions about his decision making this early on and with no credit in the bank. For all concerned including FL, there's surely no way he can be selected.

 

[skyblue025]

With him costing the team a win bonus most weeks I'm surprised one of the players hasn't 2 footed him in training and kept him out for a few weeks.

 

[GC1976]

I’d rather see someone like Oggy back at the club to asses the goalkeeping issues and whittle the 5 keepers we have down to 2 seniors and a younger option. Even then maybe bring in older keeper with a lot of experience who actually looks like a big strong 6’4 stopper! None of the front 3 keepers look like they can handle any kind of attention from aggressive forward.

 

[alexccfc99]

He was never going to drop him after the Hull game... that being said my first potential whinge with Lampard will be if he doesn't take him and JDS out of the line up this afternoon

 

[alexccfc99]

Robins clearly didn't rate Collins, and the reason for that seems pretty obvious now. He shut him out the squad. Robins was never scared of making changes from one game to the next. Why is Collins still getting picked? It's the action of a manager who doesn't know what they're doing. Is it because Lampard doesn't trust a young keeper? Lampard hasn't done anything so far, to alleviate the concerns of those who didn't want him here.

Other than Dabo for a season and the two loanees - Robins didn't rate Adi's Chelsea lot, Collins, JDS and Kane were complete wastes of money and tbh I believe it is part of the reason their working relationship went sour

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

I’d rather see someone like Oggy back at the club to asses the goalkeeping issues and whittle the 5 keepers we have down to 2 seniors and a younger option. Even then maybe bring in older keeper with a lot of experience who actually looks like a big strong 6’4 stopper! None of the front 3 keepers look like they can handle any kind of attention from aggressive forward.

Dovin needs to be given a run of games.

 

[StrettoBoy]

Dovin needs to be given a run of games.

I was about to post that but you have beaten me to it.

We surely bought him to be our number 1. I don’t think he has done much wrong and he deserves a chance to prove himself.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

@Saddlebrains
Any news on Collins starting today?

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[Otis]

The Dovin purchase is looking like a slow burn, maybe in 2 years he will come good but he is still very young for a first choice Championship goalie.

Well it's exactly that isn't it?

He's very young for a keeper and we may not see the best of him for a while, but I think he will turn out to be a very good keeper.

Maybe though, we felt we could sell him on and it was a good deal in that regard.

At 22, we certainly shouldn't be writing him off.

 

[Otis]

It's a very low bar

That might help Collins to be honest. He might save a few more that way.

 

[capel & collindridge]

That might help Collins to be honest. He might save a few more that way.

Not the low free kicks...

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well it's exactly that isn't it?

He's very young for a keeper and we may not see the best of him for a while, but I think he will turn out to be a very good keeper.

Maybe though, we felt we could sell him on and it was a good deal in that regard.

At 22, we certainly shouldn't be writing him off.

He is almost certainly wishing he’d never joined. Dropped in record time for being quiet, then watches his replacement concede nearly every attempt on goal without being dropped himself.

Been treated very badly for someone we invested quite a lot in for a keeper.

 

[Nick]

Seriously if Collins starts on boxing day then serious questions need to be asked of Lampard.

It also begs the question, what the fuck is wrong with Dovin?

 

[Marty]

It also begs the question, what the fuck is wrong with Dovin?

This was a point I was alluding too in the Portsmouth match thread. If we spend 2 mill on a keeper and he can't even get a game ahead of Collins, than theres a serious failure in the recruitment department.

 

[MalcSB]

Pity the same couldn't be said for the goals, we might not concede as many!

Narrow Margins would also help.