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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
No other club, fans, have killed so many people at two football matches. 😞😞😞
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What the actual fuck are you on about? In one of them 97 people were unlawfully killed, and definitely not by the other fans. In the other one, 39 fans were killed, due to the stupid actions of a small minority of liverpool fans, I’ll give you that. But why so many people let their bizarre prejudice against people from an area of the same part of the country as them (who happen to be the most genuine, kind people you could meet on the most part by the way) convince themselves 97 people dying at a football match isn’t a tragedy and was somehow their own fault I will never understand
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
What the actual fuck are you on about? In one of them 97 people were unlawfully killed, and definitely not by the other fans. In the other one, 39 fans were killed, due to the stupid actions of a small minority of liverpool fans, I’ll give you that. But why so many people let their bizarre prejudice against people from an area of the same part of the country as them (who happen to be the most genuine, kind people you could meet on the most part by the way) convince themselves 97 people dying at a football match isn’t a tragedy and was somehow their own fault I will never understand
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I'll give you that, the majority of the people in the Liverpool are kind and genuine, but I'm talking about the hooligans that support Liverpool FC, I and others on this forum have experienced the hooligans and the violence that they have caused over many years.

It's sad to say that when Hillsborough happened in 89 it didn't surprise me one bit, those POOR SOULS that lost their lives because of the overcrowding in that terrace.

And why was there overcrowding, because of the stupidity of the police opening them gates and the Liverpool fans cramming into one area, ask yourself, why did the police open them gates?

Yes you're right about one thing, definitely not by other fans.

I speak from experience about that terracing at Hillsborough two years prior in 87, we were allocated that end, myself, my brother and a friend had tickets for that terrace and as we walk through that tunnel and got to the end of the tunnel, I said oh my god, this is an accident just waiting to happen, so we immediately turn around and went back out of the terrace and stood high in the terracing by the corner flag, which is separate terracing from beyond the goal.

Ask ask yourself this, why was there no deaths that year?
 
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
I speak from experience about that terracing at Hillsborough two years prior in 87, we were allocated that end, myself, my brother and a friend had tickets for that terrace and as we walk through that tunnel and got to the end of the tunnel, I said oh my god, this is an accident just waiting to happen, so we immediately turn around and went back out of the terrace and stood high in the terracing by the corner flag, which is separate terracing from beyond the goal.

Ask ask yourself this, why was there no deaths that year?
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On the point in the first para above I believe there were so many people going through the central tunnel once they opened the gate that it wasn’t possible for people to turn around once they went in.

On the second point I have seen many cov fans say that it was purely lucky that day wasn’t the day that people died. Moreover, it sort of takes away from your earlier niceities in my opinion. I believe you are implying that some of the liverpool fans were feral and were trying to storm the turnstiles and that this caused the disaster. It was proved by a public inquiry that all the people who died were in possession of tickets, and was proved also that there wasn’t by any means a large amount of ticketless or drunk fans in the end in general.
On the point, why did noone die in 87, it’s also more to do with the fact that the police commander had taken games at hillsborough before and knew what he was doing, if you watch documentaries on the disaster a lot of caused it was the incompetencies of the police and this commander in particular. The fact he hasn’t been prosecuted is a disgrace to be honest.

My dad and granddad were there that day, and I was born and grew up in liverpool myself, which is why it pisses me off to no end when anyone, but particularly fellow cov fans, make comments like made above about “dirty scouse bastards”, especially in relation to hillsborough, a true tragedy
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
On the point in the first para above I believe there were so many people going through the central tunnel once they opened the gate that it wasn’t possible for people to turn around once they went in.
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Firstly for the record it's an absolute tragedy what happened that day, those POOR SOULS who were crushed against the high wall and fencing, they were the ones who got there early.

Those who came later, why didn't they form an orderly queue and go through the turnstiles ?

Those in the tunnel, you said, couldn't turn round, no, but they could've stopped pushing, that's what caused the crushing isn't it ?

I noticed you never responded to my point " why did the Police open them gates "


I'm not trying to open old wounds I'm just looking at it from a neutral perspective of what happened that day.
 
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Those who came later, why didn't they form an orderly queue and go through the turnstiles ?

Those in the tunnel, you said, couldn't turn round, no, but they could've stopped pushing, that's what caused the crushing isn't it ?

I noticed you never responded to my point " why did the Police open them gates "


I'm not trying to open old wounds I'm just looking at it from a neutral perspective of what happened that day.
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Mate you don’t seem like a bad fella or actively trying to be disrespectful or anything so I’d just like to politely request you to watch this video and say that a neutral perspective of what happened that day was provided by a literal public enquiry 👍
 
COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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TwistAndShoutCCFC1987 said:
Mate you don’t seem like a bad fella or actively trying to be disrespectful or anything so I’d just like to politely request you to watch this video and say that a neutral perspective of what happened that day was provided by a literal public enquiry 👍
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On the CCTV footage you can quite clearly see the Liverpool fans pouring through the gates.

Did the Police ever say WHY they opened the gates?

You say you originated from Liverpool and have family members living in Liverpool, may I respectfully suggest it's your loyalty to the Liverpool fans that's blinding your judgment.

Out of respect I will leave it there.

Merry Christmas to you and your family.
 
Alan Dugdales Moustache

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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letsallsingtogether said:
Exactly.
Imagine the outcry and the injustice if it was another team that had done it.
They cry kick and scream about Hillsborough yet did the same at Hysel and never mention it.
Dirty scouse bast@rds.......
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Hysel gets swept under the carpet. Never mentioned. For the Juventus supporters it's a tragedy as poignant as Hillsborough was to Liverpool supporters .
 
TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

TwistAndShoutCCFC1987

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
On the CCTV footage you can quite clearly see the Liverpool fans pouring through the gates.

Did the Police ever say WHY they opened the gates?

You say you originated from Liverpool and have family members living in Liverpool, may I respectfully suggest it's your loyalty to the Liverpool fans that's blinding your judgment.

Out of respect I will leave it there.

Merry Christmas to you and your family.
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The reason they opened the gate was because there was overcrowding outside the turnstiles and there were fears somebody would be crushed outside of the gate never mind inside because the police didn’t put the required queuing and staggering of the crowds in place as they normally would in the narrow bottleneck of the Leppings lane end, as the video explains. The police caused the issue and then opened the gate without dealing with where the people went once they got in and then covered up the fact they did this.
Anyway merry christmas to you and your family too 👍
 
Sky Blue Harry H

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Score in a minute, we're gonna' score in a minute' ( I know it should be going to, but not how the pleb masses sing it🤣)
 
Sky Blue Harry H

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Sick Boy said:
Whenever I hear that I think of Lee Mills.
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No, it was always that bald headed midfielder who bossed the game for us at home to Swindon, in the most one sided 0-0 ( or 1-1) draw, you will ever see. Forgotten his name, but as soon as I post it will come to me ( ex- Wolves?)
 
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oscillatewildly

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Sky Blue Harry H said:
No, it was always that bald headed midfielder who bossed the game for us at home to Swindon, in the most one sided 0-0 ( or 1-1) draw, you will ever see. Forgotten his name, but as soon as I post it will come to me ( ex- Wolves?)
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Yes, H, we absolutely battered them from pillar to post for 90(+) minutes (Roy Wegerlie goal?) live on Sky too.
Then in the final minute of added on time they conjured their only attack of the game - Down the right side towards the then building site that would become the East stand and had the audacity to score!
The midfielder I think you refer to was Chris Marsden - How we never signed him permanently is beyond me. (Think he had some off field 'habits'?)
 
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oscillatewildly

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oscillatewildly said:
Yes, H, we absolutely battered them from pillar to post for 90(+) minutes (Roy Wegerlie goal?) live on Sky too.
Then in the final minute of added on time they conjured their only attack of the game - Down the right side towards the then building site that would become the East stand and had the audacity to score!
The midfielder I think you refer to was Chris Marsden - How we never signed him permanently is beyond me. (Think he had some off field 'habits'?)
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Think we signed him on loan from Man U? But he ended up at Wolves after us.
 
Sky Blue Harry H

Sky Blue Harry H

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oscillatewildly said:
Yes, H, we absolutely battered them from pillar to post for 90(+) minutes (Roy Wegerlie goal?) live on Sky too.
Then in the final minute of added on time they conjured their only attack of the game - Down the right side towards the then building site that would become the East stand and had the audacity to score!
The midfielder I think you refer to was Chris Marsden - How we never signed him permanently is beyond me. (Think he had some off field 'habits'?)
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Just reading your reply, and Chris Marsden's name popped into my head. Typical!
 
Calista

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Anyone else remember the cheesy big band / saxophones version of the Sky Blue Song they used to play over the loudspeakers as the team ran out onto the pitch? 1970's and probably into the 80's as well. Ended with a climactic baam-baam parp-parp 🎷🎷.
 
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oscillatewildly

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Calista said:
Anyone else remember the cheesy big band / saxophones version of the Sky Blue Song they used to play over the loudspeakers as the team ran out onto the pitch? 1970's and probably into the 80's as well. Ended with a climactic baam-baam parp-parp 🎷🎷.
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I do. It was a kind of lounge jazz version. (If there is such a thing?)
 
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ovduk78 said:
They did. It was the last game that Marsden played for us whilst we buggered about trying to extend his loan so he joined Wolves instead, luckily for us we swooped in to sign Sandy Robertson 😟
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And Dougie McGuire. 👌
 
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