At what point did he want Nevin? I’m sure this info would’ve been available in the summer.
Him not going for any of the other coaches he brought in could be an admission that he got that restructure wrong. If MR could see that and the. Asked for Nevin and/or Ramsey, it could’ve been too late in the day.
After all, October 19th was well after the season started there’d already been 2-3 ‘MR out threads on here’. Both Austin and King had a pre-conceived belief that MR would be exposed without a top class coach alongside him so it’s probably MR asked too late.
I don’t buy the narrative that King wanted to rid MR because he was the last vestige of the Ancien Régime which is what you/your source is peddling. If he believed MR was the man to take us to the Prem, then he’d still be at the club. What is clear is that King’s faith in Robins was fundamentally tested by AV’s exit and the season start made his position untenable.
Can't wait to get rid personally!None of them were
Should be said by the same 2 or 3 peopleThere's been Robins out threads in here since 2017!
Nevin was who Robins wanted as his Number 2
Doug said no. There's a reason Delaney and Dempster were promoted, it saved money
Also it speaks volumes Robins hasn't tried to get any of the coaching set up 'he' put in place, even though 1 of them in Boateng is currently unemployed.
It's staring people in the face and they don't want to believe it
Doug was truthful with Robins saying he can't work with Adi anymore. Doug was truthful that he tried to work it out between them.
He wasn't truthful with the bullshit about the number 2 'not coming across his desk'. It did
Also, i was told before the Preston game on October 19th Doug wanted Lampard. As we're a few others
The second Adi went and Robins was last man standing from the old regime, Doug knew he was giving him the boot and putting in who he wanted
Why did Robins say he appointed them though and it was his choice. Appreciate the info
Carr was clearly a King/Roberts/Austin appointment (hence him being the caretaker and still here now).
Boateng a weird one really.
I know cant believe Stoke have signed a manager who took a club in a mess from league two to the championship and a pen kick away from the premiership when they could have signed Kenny Jacketmy God is this a joke
Mainly from one personThere's been Robins out threads in here since 2017!
It's like me or you can't say at work ' all the changes brought in by upper management are a load of shit, i don't like it, never wanted it and the new computer system is a pile of wank, they dont know what theyre doing'
What would happen then?
The thing is given the chance and their finances there is every chance stoke slowly become a top half regular in the championship now and with that also comes the chance of finishing in the playoffs .
They will feel they should be that given what they spend, hence they keep sacking managers who don't deliver it I suppose.The thing is given the chance and their finances there is every chance stoke slowly become a top half regular in the championship now and with that also comes the chance of finishing in the playoffs .
In that case Robins would be able to batter King in court.Without being in the know, my take is that I didn’t believe much of what king said at the forum anyway about what robins wanted in the coaching structure.
just seems weird to me that if we take what Doug said as gospel, that MR wanted four ‘flat’ coaches and no assistant or head of coaching, but now he’s got two assistants with one apparently who he wanted at Cov.
I think it was very much a structure that king wanted but on his terms (which is exactly what Lampard has got) and robins was the fall guy.
i.e. robins would have had an assistant but his choice and not one forced on him.
Are they still owned by the bet365 owners or was that port vale?The thing is given the chance and their finances there is every chance stoke slowly become a top half regular in the championship now and with that also comes the chance of finishing in the playoffs .
I’m not sure mate, didn’t someon say it was when there was the pitch fiasco and we sold dom hyamWhere were we when he apparently applied for the job? League 1? Same division?
He literally said himself he planned the coaching structureWithout being in the know, my take is that I didn’t believe much of what king said at the forum anyway about what robins wanted in the coaching structure.
just seems weird to me that if we take what Doug said as gospel, that MR wanted four ‘flat’ coaches and no assistant or head of coaching, but now he’s got two assistants with one apparently who he wanted at Cov.
I think it was very much a structure that king wanted but on his terms (which is exactly what Lampard has got) and robins was the fall guy.
i.e. robins would have had an assistant but his choice and not one forced on him.
Given that some people on here have seriously suggested that Robins can only succeed with a coaching setup that doesn’t get more sophisticated than Adi Viveash and a bucket of cones, it will be interesting to see how he fares at a club with a backroom staff and infrastructure that dwarfs the one we have here.Will surely be sacked within a month given that he’s an incompetent buffoon who was carried completely by Viveash
They will feel they should be that given what they spend, hence they keep sacking managers who don't deliver it I suppose.
Hasn't dr roberts worked with Carr previous ?Carr was clearly a King/Roberts/Austin appointment (hence him being the caretaker and still here now).
Boateng a weird one really.
Carr looked totally lost on the pitch before the Millwall game all of the men Frank brought in had jobs to do he just stood there alone and getting the ballsCarr was clearly a King/Roberts/Austin appointment (hence him being the caretaker and still here now).
Boateng a weird one really.
Quite an ITK if true.None of them were
He’s going to go Plymouth again ironicallyI think giving a new manager like Schumacher what was it 12 games or something isn't the best model to follow ..
But considering it's another 3 5 years with a fantastic looking backroom you'd have to imagine mark asked for guarantees of this season and maybe next atleast unless they fall below a certain criteria
He’s going to go Plymouth again ironically
In that case Robins would be able to batter King in court.
As i said further up, I think he'd have to be bloody awful not to last until the summer and I don't see that happening. Assuming he makes it there they will make plenty of funds available to him. It is a good job for someone to get their teeth into but you have to be wary that their owners are even more trigger happy than our own Deadly Doug. If he had a similar start to what we had this season, the outcome would be the same.I think giving a new manager like Schumacher what was it 12 games or something isn't the best model to follow ..
But considering it's another 3 5 years with a fantastic looking backroom you'd have to imagine mark asked for guarantees of this season and maybe next atleast unless they fall below a certain criteria
Yes they areAre they still owned by the bet365 owners or was that port vale?
Mainly from one person