Transfer Rumour Samuel Rak-Sakyi (4 Viewers)

[SlowerThanPlatt]

If only we had a manager that knew what it took to have a match winning midfield ?!?!?

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Playing and managing/coaching are different disciplines or Wayne Rooney would have been a rip-roaring success.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was Mounts second loan, Wilson’s 3rd, Tomoris 3rd and he’s using it as some sort of gotcha

this has more similarities with the aderamola loan

Even Lee Sawyer had scored a senior goal to be fair

 

[stupot07]

Ayari is also getting plenty of PL minutes now, we just used his badly

He's doing really well this season but wasn't ready for the championship, he went to Blackburn straight after us and the same experience, so it wasn't us using him badly.

 

[stupot07]

It's all feeling a bit 2007

Yeah this is a big no for me. We don't need youngsters on loan, and if we do they need to have had at least one previous loan.

 

[SBT]

Unless this kid is going to be playing every week and will transform the side, I’d rather be investing our time and money in our own young midfielders.

 

[Deity]

Playing and managing/coaching are different disciplines or Wayne Rooney would have been a rip-roaring success.

I’d back Lampard to spot a midfielder over anyone on this forum.

 

[SlowerThanPlatt]

I’d back Lampard to spot a midfielder over anyone on this forum.

Ah, that’s quite a reverse from your original argument!

 

[higgs]

Maatsen had never kicked a ball in the championship before and he joined us from Chelsea and was quality

Some are hits, some are misses that’s the game you play with a loan deal

The lads clearly got talent you don’t be at Chelsea if you are shit

Brad Collins and Jay Da Silva

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[Ccfcisparks]

I’d only be signing this lad if we have the opportunity to buy, or at the very least be guaranteed to get him next season for a year if he does well in this 6 months

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Unless this kid is going to be playing every week and will transform the side, I’d rather be investing our time and money in our own young midfielders.

Well our own young midfielder's just gone to the ultimate pub league on loan

 

[alexccfc99]

Brad Collins and Jay Da Silva

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I’ve said before on this thread till I’m red in the face

Collins and Dasilva when they were younger were probably in the Top 1% of footballers their age, hence why they started off at Chelsea

Sometimes players have bags of potential but do not develop, it’s not a hard concept to grasp

 

[stupot07]

Maatsen had never kicked a ball in the championship before and he joined us from Chelsea and was quality

Some are hits, some are misses that’s the game you play with a loan deal

The lads clearly got talent you don’t be at Chelsea if you are shit

Maatsen had played 35 games in league one before joining us. It's not about the league it's about actually going and playing men's football.

Hits
Maatsen had a previous loan spell
Doyle had had a previous loan spell
McNally had played a lot of first team games
Gyokeres had previous loan spell
BNC had a previous loan spell
Ostegard had a previous loan spell
JCS had lots of previous experience
Panzo lots of previous experienc
Binks had previous loan spells

Misses
Adamarola - never had a loan wasn't ready
Ayari - never had a loan wasn't ready
JWE - never had a loan wasn't ready

The Lampard Derby loans keep getting held up as a good example
Wilson 2 previous loan spell
Mount had previous loan spell
Tomori had a previous loan spell.

 

[ICHAN]

If only we had a manager that knew what it took to have a match winning midfield ?!?!?

No matter, far more experience on the matter on this forum.

I give in tbh, read some shit on here from experienced players & managers, giving up on reading the professionalism of them all now.

 

[alexccfc99]

Maatsen had played 35 games in league one before joining us. It's not about the league it's about actually going and playing men's football.

Hits
Maatsen had a previous loan spell
Doyle had had a previous loan spell
McNally had played a lot of first team games
Gyokeres had previous loan spell
BNC had a previous loan spell
Ostegard had a previous loan spell
JCS had lots of previous experience
Panzo lots of previous experienc
Binks had previous loan spells

Misses
Adamarola - never had a loan wasn't ready
Ayari - never had a loan wasn't ready
JWE - never had a loan wasn't ready

The Lampard Derby loans keep getting held up as a good example
Wilson 2 previous loan spell
Mount had previous loan spell
Tomori had a previous loan spell.

Ayari clearly was ready, not even one year down the line he was starting for his country and playing regularly in the Premier League for Brighton

Wilson-Esbrand was completely fine but wasn’t utilised, he should have been brought on over Dabo in the play-off final

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Ayari clearly was ready, not even one year down the line he was starting for his country and playing regularly in the Premier League for Brighton

Wilson-Esbrand was completely fine but wasn’t utilised, he should have been brought on over Dabo in the play-off final

By your own admission at the time you said Ayari wasn’t ready

 

[stupot07]

Ayari clearly was ready, not even one year down the line he was starting for his country and playing regularly in the Premier League for Brighton

Wilson-Esbrand was completely fine but wasn’t utilised, he should have been brought on over Dabo in the play-off final

So why did Ayari have an identical experience at Blackburn? Sometimes a summer can do wonders, think back to Callum Wilson and Viktor Gyokeres.

Wilson-Esbrand was a pretty poor loan, he had limited impact, starting just 5 out of 22 games, and unused sub for 8, and not trusted in the big games.

 

[wingy]

So why did Ayari have an identical experience at Blackburn? Sometimes a summer can do wonders, think back to Callum Wilson and Viktor Gyokeres.

Wilson-Esbrand was a pretty poor loan, he had limited impact, starting just 5 out of 22 games, and unused sub for 8, and not trusted in the big games.

Got to be honest I thought they used him and successfully for what they needed, willing to have that opinion changed if that's a misconception?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I’d back Lampard to spot a midfielder over anyone on this forum.

It's probably Lampard scraping the barrel with £0 in the coffers because the club's spunked all the cash on shite players who want out

 

[stupot07]

Got to be honest I thought they used him and successfully for what they needed, willing to have that opinion changed if that's a misconception?

For us he made 13 league appearances played 545 minutes, for Blackburn he made 10 league appearances playing 328 minutes.

 

[robbiethemole]

So are we pinning all our season hopes on a 19 yr old untried in the championship player? Just like we expected Sheaf to lift us up high and what most are hoping will happen when Haji comes back. Delusional

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

To be fair, let’s assume this is a swap of wages for Kai. That for me still means we could easily look at another CM.

Could be a good option for us. Would worry though if this is it as need some experience in CM imo.

 

[SBT]

To be fair, let’s assume this is a swap of wages for Kai.

Completely pointless move if so. If Lampard wants to develop Chelsea’s kids instead of our own then I’m sure they’d find a job for him there.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

To be fair, let’s assume this is a swap of wages for Kai. That for me still means we could easily look at another CM.

Could be a good option for us. Would worry though if this is it as need some experience in CM imo.

Fuck me do you call every player who plays for us and doesn’t play for us by their first name

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Fuck me do you call every player who plays for us and doesn’t play for us by their first name

Some days like to mix it up

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Completely pointless move if so. If Lampard wants to develop Chelsea’s kids instead of our own then I’m sure they’d find a job for him there.

Depends on where he is at this point of his development. Willing to give him a shot although do have misgivings after Yasin Ayari (brilliant player just too soon).

 

[Torquay Sky Blue]

I’d back Lampard to spot a midfielder over anyone on this forum.

The same could be said about Robins and Austin, and look at the shit they brought in

 

[covcity4life]

Chelsea supporting friend says he's brilliant talent and not looked out of place in conference league side.

However championship is prob harder than majority of teams he's played in that though

Looks like he'd be decent though and the right talent could transform out midfield.

How it happens maybe with a view to a 1.5 year loan stint with us?

 

[stupot07]

Chelsea supporting friend says he's brilliant talent and not looked out of place in conference league side.

However championship is prob harder than majority of teams he's played in that though

Looks like he'd be decent though and the right talent could transform out midfield.

How it happens maybe with a view to a 1.5 year loan stint with us?

Tbf he's only played 105 mins in the Conference league qualifiers.

11 mins Vs FC Noah (8-0) - Armenian Premier League
1 min Vs Heidenhain (2-0) - Bundesliga
86 mins Vs FC Astana (3-1) - Kasakzstan Premier League
7 mins Vs Shamrock Rovers (5-1) - League of Ireland

I wouldn't be against it if it was a loan with the view to a permanent or a 1.5 year loan, but not just this season.

 

[covcity4life]

Tbf he's only played 105 mins in the Conference league qualifiers.

11 mins Vs FC Noah (8-0) - Armenian Premier League
1 min Vs Heidenhain (2-0) - Bundesliga
86 mins Vs FC Astana (3-1) - Kasakzstan Premier League
7 mins Vs Shamrock Rovers (5-1) - League of Ireland

I wouldn't be against it if it was a loan with the view to a permanent or a 1.5 year loan, but not just this season.

Depends. What if he's talented enough to spur this team on to a run that gets us in playoff contention?

After all we were not a million miles away from winning our last 3 games

 

[Frostie]

Pulled out of the Chelsea v Morecambe game due to food poisoning.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Pulled out of the Chelsea v Morecambe game due to food poisoning.

Just what we need another soft as shit footballer

 

[ptr]

So that’s Him and Helik who have lied about an illness to get out of signing for us.

 

[mmttww]

Just what we need another soft as shit footballer

tbf sh*t is pretty soft with food poisoning, m8.

 

[wingy]

Depends. What if he's talented enough to spur this team on to a run that gets us in playoff contention?

After all we were not a million miles away from winning our last 3 games

Especially close last weekend I thought just a little more game management and a touch more confidence!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

tbf sh*t is pretty soft with food poisoning, m8.

Players like Biamou and Doyler would have shoved a plug up their arse if they had food poisoning.

real players playing for the club