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[Evo1883]

Liberal democracy, minority rights, self determination, everything 1945-1970 basically.

And you think that his clumsy salute means these things will be dismantled ?

 

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[Boicey]

I doubt it's the first time Musk has done a nazi salute tbh.
It's a very strange unnatural gesture to 'accidently' do. He clicked into something he's done before.
The fact he's a far right extremist hardly helps his 'defence' does it.
It's just another addition to his cretinous dangerous extremist nutcase catalogue.

 

[shmmeee]

It's not even about left and right , there are people who vote for left /centre left parties and hold many left wing beliefs that are fed up with the nonsense.

People worry about nonsense like this which gets us talking but it's a nothing burger , his influence on world politics Is a bigger issue

What do you mean by “the nonsense”?

Pendulums swing, I’d agree that we probably need to swing back in some areas, but the concern that once that swing back starts it’ll also go too far the other way as pendulums do is a fair one.

I’ve got mates in America genuinely concerned they’ll lose their job for having the wrong political beliefs. And maybe Trump is just joking, or maybe he’s not, it’s the uncertainty.

 

[shmmeee]

And you think that his clumsy salute means these things will be dismantled ?

I’ve not said that. But “clumsy salutes” or a whole bunch of other stuff was just outright not tolerated for decades after the war. Things like standards in public life, an understanding of the power of political rhetoric, respect for international law, etc aren’t “wokeness” they are the safeguards we put in after we saw what fascism does.

 

[Evo1883]

What do you mean by “the nonsense”?

Pendulums swing, I’d agree that we probably need to swing back in some areas, but the concern that once that swing back starts it’ll also go too far the other way as pendulums do is a fair one.

I’ve got mates in America genuinely concerned they’ll lose their job for having the wrong political beliefs. And maybe Trump is just joking, or maybe he’s not, it’s the uncertainty.

These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality

 

[Boicey]

Is Evo really endlessly boring us with the snowflake slur instead of calling out Musk.
Bizarre.

 

[MalcSB]

Sorry but people are bored with the perennially offended .. he's a twat sure , but let's not pretend he's about to start the 4th reich

So, are we not going to pretend because he is going to do it in reality?

You are defending them so much, you must be a part of the cabal and hence an itk

 

[PVA]

People worry about nonsense like this which gets us talking but it's a nothing burger , his influence on world politics Is a bigger issue

But the two things are linked.

It's worrying that someone with such an influence on world politics, as you say, is up on stage doing a nazi salute.

 

[MalcSB]

These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality

Oh fuck off, it was more than just a clumsy chest pump

 

[Evo1883]

Is Evo really endlessly boring us with the snowflake slur instead of calling out Musk.
Bizarre.

I've stated several times already his attack on British and European politics is an issue , and that he's a twat .

I just can't believe people would rather wrap there heads in a clumsy salute that means fuck all , who cares about that shit

 

[shmmeee]

These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality

It’s the whole piece. On its own no one cares. Paired with other 4chan style “lol fascism for fun” rhetoric it’s a bit different.

 

[Evo1883]

But the two things are linked.

It's worrying that someone with such an influence on world politics, as you say, is up on stage doing a nazi salute.

If you think that Elon Musk has gone on stage and purposely done a nazi salute to show the world he's a nazi then I have no words

 

[Evo1883]

Oh fuck off, it was more than just a clumsy chest pump

In your mind it was , hence the offence

Reality is probably different

 

[MalcSB]

Is Evo really endlessly boring us with the snowflake slur instead of calling out Musk.
Bizarre.

Insulting us more like. Fuck knows why. If Tommy Robinson did the same thing he would be appalled and offended.

Double standards.

 

[rob9872]

Are you advocating that Kier Starmer is given supreme executive power? That's a real surprise if I'm honest

Tbh why not for some of the small stuff. He wasn't my choice but let his government govern. Almost like a signatory policy level. We get so embroiled in conformity that lots of good stuff is like wading through treacle.

 

[MalcSB]

In your mind it was , hence the offence

Reality is probably different

Not just in my mind though, is it.

Probably isn't definitive, is it.

 

[Ring Of Steel]

These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality

As someone else pointed out, you don’t have any business telling people what their opinions need to be.

 

[Evo1883]

Insulting us more like. Fuck knows why. If Tommy Robinson did the same thing he would be appalled and offended.

Double standards.

I've states several times what I think of Elon Musk.

 

[Evo1883]

As someone else pointed out, you don’t have any business telling people what their opinions need to be.

They are telling me what my opinion should be though ?

 

[MalcSB]

If you think that Elon Musk has gone on stage and purposely done a nazi salute to show the world he's a nazi then I have no words

Thank god for that, hopefully you will shut the fuck up.

 

[Evo1883]

Thank bid for that, hopefully you will shut the fuck up.

 

[torchomatic]

I doubt it's the first time Musk has done a nazi salute tbh.
It's a very strange unnatural gesture to 'accidently' do. He clicked into something he's done before.
The fact he's a far right extremist hardly helps his 'defence' does it.
It's just another addition to his cretinous dangerous extremist nutcase catalogue.

I find it really weird that Trump and Musk have so many fanboys over here in the UK. My mate is one. It's really odd.

 

[shmmeee]

Think this is a good take on it:

Did He Actually Do That?

Elon Musk either had a slipped-mask moment or is supremely awkward.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Evo1883]

I find it really weird that Trump and Musk have so many fanboys over here in the UK. My mate is one. It's really odd.

I know loads of people who are happy trump is in power , I am fully behind democracy and the will of the people but it's a bit like many of us with brexit at the time who were duped into thinking it would be a great thing , I understand it more as I get older

I wouldnt vote trump

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

"Accidentally" throwing a Nazi salute days after endorsing the AFD.

I mean, thats a very generous take on it

 

[SBT]

These are entirely valid concerns


Elon Musk doing a clumsy chest pump is of concern to nobody in reality

People who do something clumsy are typically contrite afterwards, aren’t they?

 

[Evo1883]

"Accidentally" throwing a Nazi salute days after endorsing the AFD.

I mean, thats a very generous take on it

In fairness , I doubt they are any more right wing than what's in power in America right now

 

[Ring Of Steel]

I find it really weird that Trump and Musk have so many fanboys over here in the UK. My mate is one. It's really odd.

I think some people over here see them shagging who they want, screwing over who they want, saying what they want, airing their repugnant views publicly… and not only getting away with it but getting rewarded for it. Trump & Musk are doing and saying what some people would love to do & say themselves if they could get away with it. A pretty bad indictment of the society we currently live in really.

 

[torchomatic]

I know loads of people who are happy trump is in power , I am fully behind democracy and the will of the people but it's a bit like many of us with brexit at the time who were duped into thinking it would be a great thing , I understand it more as I get older

I wouldnt vote trump

I always find it remarkable how many people were supposedly "duped" into voting Brexit. It really wasn't difficult to fathom how it would turn out.

 

[Evo1883]

People who do something clumsy are typically contrite afterwards, aren’t they?

Autistic people can do things differently as we all know

 

[Evo1883]

I always find it remarkable how many people were supposedly "duped" into voting Brexit. It really wasn't difficult to fathom how it would turn out.

For many sure , for many not so much

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

I mean I detest Trump and Musk… but I’m not sure it was a Nazi salute… there’s bigger issues at play regarding Musk. This is one of those things you just shake your head at

I mean MvE dropped this whopper last season against Milwall

 

[ajsccfc]

Elon Musk may have recently and very publicly advocated for AfD, a far right party classified as "suspected extremist" by its own country, but there's no way he'd break out the salute on the day he's surrounded by enablers and christened as being completely free from consequence. He was probably just waving to the Chinese lads walking up to the parochial house and this can all be explained with a quick slideshow and a pint

 

[SBT]

Autistic people can do things differently as we all know

Sure, but an autistic person who’s been handed the keys to the entire American civil service presumably has a greater level of responsibility than your average Joe. Or can he just do whatever he wants because he’s autistic?

 

[MalcSB]

They are telling me what my opinion should be though ?

Are they? Most people have been posting their opinion and you are coming back and telling them that they shouldn’t have that opinion.

I've stated several times already his attack on British and European politics is an issue , and that he's a twat .

I just can't believe people would rather wrap there heads in a clumsy salute that means fuck all , who cares about that shit

So, if Tommy Robinson did it it would mean nothing then?