Southport Stabbing (37 Viewers)

[Warwickhunt]

I was sat in tears reading through the terror them girls experienced in the last moments of their lives

I will never comprehend how the parents feel

He is without doubt one of the most evil cunts to ever walk this earth

I can't see him lasting long inside. Someone will get to him 100%

Hi Saddle! I am sure we should be looking at the ultimate deterrent in these irrefutable beyond all doubt convictions.

 

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[oakey]

When all is said and done and we do the "lessons must be learned" debate we will be left with the real question unanswered ... Are we prepared to institutionalise hundreds of teenage boys and dozens of teenage girls? Because that's where the trail leads. Thousands of children and young people are accessing violent content online. Hundreds are carrying weapons. How do we work out what to do other than the blame game?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I also think his parents should be held accountable too.

Only if they’re guilty of a crime

 

[CovValleyBoy]

When all is said and done and we do the "lessons must be learned" debate we will be left with the real question unanswered ... Are we prepared to institutionalise hundreds of teenage boys and dozens of teenage girls? Because that's where the trail leads. Thousands of children and young people are accessing violent content online. Hundreds are carrying weapons. How do we work out what to do other than the blame game?

Great question. But we are fucked. Institutionally we have no discipline from cradle to grave.

 

[Nick]

When all is said and done and we do the "lessons must be learned" debate we will be left with the real question unanswered ... Are we prepared to institutionalise hundreds of teenage boys and dozens of teenage girls? Because that's where the trail leads. Thousands of children and young people are accessing violent content online. Hundreds are carrying weapons. How do we work out what to do other than the blame game?

He actually had previous convictions for it.

If somebody carries a knife, they fuck around and find out. Zero tolerance.

 

[Captain Dart]

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Only if they’re guilty of a crime

He was producing deadly poison in his bedroom, he was going to do a massacre the week before but his dad dragged him out of the taxi. He knew what was going on at his house. He was complient, he's guilty!

 

[Nick]

He was producing deadly poison in his bedroom, he was going to do a massacre the week before but his dad dragged him out of the taxi. He knew what was going on at his house. He's guilty

The fucking state of inside the house on the pictures, there is zero chance the parents didn't know.

The parents will get a new life, house, name etc from the tax payer.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

The fucking state of inside the house on the pictures, there is zero chance the parents didn't know.

And it will cost billions housing the c**t in jail while the parents and siblings will be given new identities and under police protection for ever. Redeport them, why should we all pay

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Are they required to make statements in court? Are they encouraged to do it, do they volunteer? The poise and courage required is just remarkable.

Encouraged but not expected

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

In mine as well. Certainly changed my views on capital punishment.

Really? Is murdering ever ok?
mum horrified and disturbed and sickened but it’s just wrong
And he was 17.

 

[Nick]

Really? Is murdering ever ok?
mum horrified and disturbed and sickened but it’s just wrong
And he was 17.

If he was 17 and they want to play the "he's a kid" line.

Get the fucking parents in front of a court as well then.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Talk about playing to the gallery

Southport attack: next steps

The Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has given an update on the actions the government will take including the creation of an independent public inquiry.

www.gov.uk

Can’t win can they

 

[Nick]

Will the public enquiry confirm or disprove any link between Starmer and his dad? I can't say I'm an expert on wars in Rwanda but it seems to at the very least be heavily linked to people involved in the wars over there.

 

[CovValleyBoy]

You can't give them Corp' punishment.
You can't lock them up.
You can't even keep them in the court room to receive a sentence for slaughtering children.
Nothing will change.

"Deliver us from Evil".

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Really? Is murdering ever ok?
mum horrified and disturbed and sickened but it’s just wrong
And he was 17.

There is a threshold for me when the level of cruelty is such that I can’t abide the state funding that person’s existence. Especially when children are the victims.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Hi Saddle! I am sure we should be looking at the ultimate deterrent in these irrefutable beyond all doubt convictions.

It’s no deterrent it’s just vengeance which is understandable

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It’s no deterrent it’s just vengeance which is understandable

You are right, it would just be vengeance. But the killer would still have far more warning and dignity in death than he gave his victims.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Really? Is murdering ever ok?
mum horrified and disturbed and sickened but it’s just wrong
And he was 17.

He butchered to death a 9, 7 and 6 year old, let that sink in, he butchered and maimed numerous others who will be scarred for life physically and mentally. He does not deserve to live. To end his life is ok yes!

 

[PVA]

It's possible to think this scumbag deserves to be killed and be against the death penalty.

 

[Warwickhunt]

You are right, it would just be vengeance. But the killer would still have far more warning and dignity in death than he gave his victims.

The girls that survived in the room had to watch him stab one of the girls a hundred times+ I am beyond belief as to what level some humans get to!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

There is a threshold for me when the level of cruelty is such that I can’t abide the state funding that person’s existence. Especially when children are the victims.

You know better than most how the mind of a 17 year old isn’t formed properly and this one went wildly wrong
I think saying evil and monster lets people out of their responsibility to have made sure it didn’t and doesn’t happen again
He wasn’t born this way

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

You are right, it would just be vengeance. But the killer would still have far more warning and dignity in death than he gave his victims.

Yes

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You know better than most how the mind of a 17 year old isn’t formed properly and this one went wildly wrong
I think saying evil and monster lets people out of their responsibility to have made sure it didn’t and doesn’t happen again
He wasn’t born this way

He was days away from 18.

 

[Nick]

You know better than most how the mind of a 17 year old isn’t formed properly and this one went wildly wrong
I think saying evil and monster lets people out of their responsibility to have made sure it didn’t and doesn’t happen again
He wasn’t born this way

Who brought him up?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He was producing deadly poison in his bedroom, he was going to do a massacre the week before but his dad dragged him out of the taxi. He knew what was going on at his house. He was complient, he's guilty!

If only crime worked like that
It doesn’t
I’m sure the police have looked at it very closely unless you believe black people are protected by the police which is patently unbelievable

 

[Grendel]

You know better than most how the mind of a 17 year old isn’t formed properly and this one went wildly wrong
I think saying evil and monster lets people out of their responsibility to have made sure it didn’t and doesn’t happen again
He wasn’t born this way

Yet Mr Starmer thinks he is adult enough to vote - as I believe do you?

 

[Nick]

If only crime worked like that
It doesn’t
I’m sure the police have looked at it very closely unless you believe black people are protected by the police which is patently unbelievable

What?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

He was days away from 18.

Yep I agree

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yet Mr Starmer thinks he is adult enough to vote - as I believe do you?

What does that have to do with anything

 

[Grendel]

What does that have to do with anything

You said he was 17 and not developed to be an adult

 

[fernandopartridge]

Great question. But we are fucked. Institutionally we have no discipline from cradle to grave.

That isn't true at all, in fact it's just clichéd nonsense. There are plenty of people out there who don't carry knives or commit knife crime.

Hindley and Brady, and Mary Bell murdered children while the death sentence still existed in the UK.

 

[Grendel]

If only crime worked like that
It doesn’t
I’m sure the police have looked at it very closely unless you believe black people are protected by the police which is patently unbelievable

Black people? What?

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

You know better than most how the mind of a 17 year old isn’t formed properly and this one went wildly wrong
I think saying evil and monster lets people out of their responsibility to have made sure it didn’t and doesn’t happen again
He wasn’t born this way

He was born this way though, he was on the terrorist prevent programme since 2019. There is hardly a another 17 year old on the planet who's mind that isn't formed properly would carry out this attack.

 

[SBAndy]

Yet Mr Starmer thinks he is adult enough to vote - as I believe do you?

Fucking hell.