Transfer Rumour Matt Grimes (61 Viewers)

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

He really isn't 'an incredible talent at this level'.
He has a certain poise which impresses some but actually his output is bang average.
At this point he'd be lucky to get in our pretty average midfield.

Utter rubbish. Stats-wise he's been pretty much one of the best in his position in this league over the past couple of years.

 

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[Chicken Mcgraw]

Sheaf is much better than Grimes come on now lads

 

[hamil99]

I've said this before on here but not all loans require a fee. Some parent clubs pick up the bill but there are caveats, such as they have to play otherwise the club theyre loaned to pay their wages.

McFadzean touched on this in his interview with Skyblue TV last week.

I agree, and that's kind of the point I'm making. It's not as simple as it used to be where you would loan a player, and if he didn't play it wouldn't matter, as the loaning club would pay the peanuts the player was on, and there weren't any caveats like you've mentioned. Nowadays there's always some kind of hook, be it play time or money to be paid.

 

[covcity4life]

I think if he had started more games we would have seen better performances from him personally

Though isn't that what loans are to achieve for the parent club, to give the players bit of a kick up the arse?
Harry Kane had a lot of uninspiring loans, I'd imagine it was all part of his development. Not much comfort for the loaning club though.

 

[Calista]

Looks like they’ve found his replacement

So the Swansea manager is getting a Matt out of the way so he can have a Widell on the pitch?

 

[chiefdave]

You’d still have to explain why we’re the only ones to not manage to find an appropriate player

Possibly the same reason that apparently we're the only club in the country where nobody would come in and be an assistant!

 

[TomRad85]

On the verge of signing one of the best players in his position in the division and forum moaners are going on about loans and assistants.

 

[ovduk78]

If we sign him before Saturday & agree to their gentleman's agreement we should pick him anyway, what can Swansea do?

 

[clint van damme]

I think if he had started more games we would have seen better performances from him personally

I thought there was,a player there but his work rate out of possession was poor.
I'm sure he learnt lessons that have helped him develop to where he is today.

 

[David O'Day]

I thought there was,a player there but his work rate out of possession was poor.
I'm sure he learnt lessons that have helped him develop to where he is today.

Ayari? He wasn't helped by being played a lot as the 10 when that wasn't his position

 

[rockwoodfleet]

Yet the link I put up with the loan situation gets ignored as usual

Of course it does. It's factual and don't fit in with the narrative of the anti King brigade

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

If we sign him before Saturday & agree to their gentleman's agreement we should pick him anyway, what can Swansea do?

Probably never sell us another of their players again

 

[ovduk78]

Probably never sell us another of their players again

Then we will have to employ the same tactics Real Madrid used to sign Robert Jarni

 

[PVA]

If we sign him before Saturday & agree to their gentleman's agreement we should pick him anyway, what can Swansea do?

I guess they could insert it as a clause in the deal. Doesn't have to be a gentleman's agreement, they could probably make it legally binding.

 

[Senior Vick from Alicante]

Ayari? He wasn't helped by being played a lot as the 10 when that wasn't his position

The problem with Ayari at the time was he wasnt robust enough for the league, the physical challenges of the Championship often means very good young players cant cope.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Then we will have to employ the same tactics Real Madrid used to sign Robert Jarni

I was in the club shop and had just heard that the Jarni deal was off - I had to tell the staff there, who were still printing his name on the back of the shirts

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

Then we will have to employ the same tactics Real Madrid used to sign Robert Jarni

Club made a profit on Jarni , even though he did not play 1 second for us. One report claims Grimes is to sign for us today.

 

[napolimp]

I’ve had my suspicions all along but nice to see it finally reported from a proper reputable journo. I think it’s genuinely happening lads

Deal off then?

 

[Ccfc_Addy]

If we sign him before Saturday & agree to their gentleman's agreement we should pick him anyway, what can Swansea do?

Probably wouldn't stand us in good stead for any future negotiations?

 

[Speedies_Chips]

I was in the club shop and had just heard that the Jarni deal was off - I had to tell the staff there, who were still printing his name on the back of the shirts

Things that never happened. Don't recall players names being pre-printed on shirts.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

There's definitely been a change in recruitment policy and Saddkes has said as much. Of course, he's not always right, and he doesnt claim to be, but I definitely think there was,a shift, hopefully that's now going to be sorted.

How so?

It’s more of an evolution of where we’re at in our squad building. We’ve signed 17 players who have almost all been 27 or under. That’s the foundation of the squad so it makes sense to start adding more accomplished 28+ year old players with experience.

We tried to sign Browne and Worrall in the summer, two experienced Championship campaigners. They just didn’t materialise.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

I really didnt think this would materialise. We just dont buy the accomplished finished article!! Will be a statement of intent.

 

[Otis]

How did the woes of Sainsbury's come into this thread?

Because Matt Grimes is Taste the Difference?

 

[Razzle Dazzle Dean Gordon]

I guess they could insert it as a clause in the deal. Doesn't have to be a gentleman's agreement, they could probably make it legally binding.

Wouldn't surprise me if FA rules didn't allow for this to happen, i.e a club having a say in another's selection decisions. Pure conjecture on my part but these things do usually seem to be described as a gentleman's agreement.

 

[SkyBluePower]

If we sign him before Saturday & agree to their gentleman's agreement we should pick him anyway, what can Swansea do?

Break his ankle?

 

[Sick Boy]

I’ve been critical of King in the past but fair fucking play to him if this comes off.

 

[M3rcian]

I’ve been critical of King in the past but fair fucking play to him if this comes off.

Even if for some reason it doesn't, it seems clear alot of the assumptions about how he dictates money is spent, are just wrong. So totally agree, fair play.

 

[Nick]

Even if for some reason it doesn't, it seems clear alot of the assumptions about how he dictates money is spent, are just wrong. So totally agree, fair play.

I think a lot of the stuff has been made up / assumed hasn't it? The "no loans" and "won't sign anybody over a certain age". Just because we hadn't, doesn't mean we wouldn't.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Even if for some reason it doesn't, it seems clear alot of the assumptions about how he dictates money is spent, are just wrong. So totally agree, fair play.

This isn’t a dig at the ITKs because they only pass on what they get told and it adds a lot of value to the forum!

It does seem that they get told contradictory things and specifics that may be exaggerated (things get lost in translation if the info 1st, 2nd or 3rd hand) or misinterpreted because we’re only humans.

 

[clint van damme]

I’ve been critical of King in the past but fair fucking play to him if this comes off.

Yeah, credit where its due. Even if its funded/part funded by a departure (BTA), its looks just the type of signing we've been crying out for.

 

[Domo]

@Saddlebrains any news about darling?

"Sheffield United have joined the race to sign Swansea defender Harry Darling, 25, who has also been linked with a move to Birmingham City. (The Star)"

 

[Danceswithhorses]

So the Swansea manager is getting a Matt out of the way so he can have a Widell on the pitch?

A widell on the pitch....very funny lol
Unless this kid that Swansea are after for about £4m is a wonderkid, it makes our £2m deal for Torp, look very good value.

 

[MacReady]

@Saddlebrains any news about darling?

"Sheffield United have joined the race to sign Swansea defender Harry Darling, 25, who has also been linked with a move to Birmingham City. (The Star)"

 

[Skyblue Bangkok]

@Saddlebrains any news about darling?

"Sheffield United have joined the race to sign Swansea defender Harry Darling, 25, who has also been linked with a move to Birmingham City. (The Star)"

HR is in talks with Shef It'd according to Sky Sports.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

HR is in talks with Shef It'd according to Sky Sports.

What’s he done at the Christmas party?!