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[SBT]

I do have to wonder what it is that Starmer's done to persuade Trump to praise him in public multiple times now. Without knowing what it is, I'm genuinely impressed!

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

I do have to wonder what it is that Starmer's done to persuade Trump to praise him in public multiple times now. Without knowing what it is, I'm genuinely impressed!

Lick his arse?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Aid has been continued for Israel though. Wonder why?

They are the people of god

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

They are the people of god

So are you but I don’t see your Yankee pay cheque

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So are you but I don’t see your Yankee pay cheque

Ah …..

 

[shmmeee]

Quite a few of the threads I've seen on Reddit about the Canada situation (on Canadian groups) seem to have been the opposite reaction, with the majority really pushing for boycotting American products, and just general support for the Canadian government's response even if both countries will probably lose out overall.

The actual reality of opinion is I'd imagine somewhere inbetween, but can't help but feel the US is increasingly in danger of isolating itself, especially from its direct neighbours

Yeah. A splintered internet isn’t good. Everyone’s too aggressive and too fragile around differing opinions. That’s why I love SBT Off Topic:

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Yeah. A splintered internet isn’t good. Everyone’s too aggressive and too fragile around differing opinions. That’s why I love SBT Off Topic:

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Far less sensitive on here although I’ve been a little unhinged with one colleague in particular

 

[CCFCSteve]

The talk of it in relation to Mexico is very much not premature. The designation of cartels as terrorist organisations was the first step towards conducting military operations there.

On the canal, Trump has often said he wants to take it back. The question is by what means.

The Mexican invasion is delayed…for now anyway ! I don’t necessarily like the way Trump goes about things but most of the time he just wants people to come to the table and do a deal….Mexico have sent 10k troops to the border.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

The Mexican invasion is delayed…for now anyway ! I don’t necessarily like the way Trump goes about things but most of the time he just wants people to come to the table and do a deal….Mexico have sent 10k troops to the border.

Can you blame them?

 

[shmmeee]

The Mexican invasion is delayed…for now anyway ! I don’t necessarily like the way Trump goes about things but most of the time he just wants people to come to the table and do a deal….Mexico have sent 10k troops to the border.

Its all blackmail but other countries exist and have internal politics and no government with any sense of self preservation wants to look like a vassal state.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Its all blackmail but other countries exist and have internal politics and no government with any sense of self preservation wants to look like a vassal state.

Yeah if it worked he wouldn’t be such a twat
Coercive behaviour isn’t great

 

[CCFCSteve]

Can you blame them?

It was the right call but then the question will be why did it take tariff threats from trump to better secure their border

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

It was the right call but then the question will be why did it take tariff threats from trump to better secure their border

Most ‘illegals’ do so by overstaying visas, not by trying to sneak across the border. Disappointing to see you acting as a Trump apologist in any case.

 

[CCFCSteve]

Most ‘illegals’ do so by overstaying visas, not by trying to sneak across the border. Disappointing to see you acting as a Trump apologist in any case.

Im not acting as an apologist. I’ve said I don’t like his methods but the fact is Mexico have responded by putting troops on the border and Panama has said they won’t renew their agreement with China regarding the Panama canal. Both are potential security issues for the U.S. He’s getting what he wanted whether we agree with the methods or not.

I don’t quite get what he really wants from Canada and said earlier that it’s no way to treat a close ally

 

[SIR ERNIE]

Trump’s tariffs are already bearing fruit

The US president seems to be using the tariffs for coercive rather than revenue-raising purposes

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[chiefdave]

It was the right call but then the question will be why did it take tariff threats from trump to better secure their border

It's not all one sided thought. Mexico's president has quite rightly flagged that if the US is so concerned about Mexican drug gangs they should look at where a decent percentage of the guns used by those gangs originate from. That will definitely be a large part of the discussions over the coming weeks.

 

[Captain Dart]

Im not acting as an apologist. I’ve said I don’t like his methods but the fact is Mexico have responded by putting troops on the border and Panama has said they won’t renew their agreement with China regarding the Panama canal. Both are potential security issues for the U.S. He’s getting what he wanted whether we agree with the methods or not.

I don’t quite get what he really wants from Canada and said earlier that it’s no way to treat a close ally

As I understand it part of the strategy is to encourage investment in US manufacturing to bring it back from China and reduce the huge deficit the US has. He's also talked about replacing income tax with tariffs. He is definitely taking a bold a gamble because it is disrupting the way things have evolved over the last 25 or 30, even 100 years.

Time will tell.

 

[Grendel]

It's not all one sided thought. Mexico's president has quite rightly flagged that if the US is so concerned about Mexican drug gangs they should look at where a decent percentage of the guns used by those gangs originate from. That will definitely be a large part of the discussions over the coming weeks.

It will ultimately be totally one sided

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Trump’s tariffs are already bearing fruit

The US president seems to be using the tariffs for coercive rather than revenue-raising purposes

www.telegraph.co.uk

Great coercive manipulation what a prick he is

 

[shmmeee]

As I understand it part of the strategy is to encourage investment in US manufacturing to bring it back from China and reduce the huge deficit the US has. He's also talked about replacing income tax with tariffs. He is definitely taking a bold a gamble because it is disrupting the way things have evolved over the last 25 or 30, even 100 years.

Time will tell.

Time is telling. You’re describing Joe Bidens economic policy from four years ago

 

[Captain Dart]

Time is telling. You’re describing Joe Bidens economic policy from four years ago

Has it worked?

 

[Captain Dart]

Time is telling. You’re describing Joe Bidens economic policy from four years ago

The Biden administration hit Americans with personal inflation on food, petrol, cars and travel, income fell relative to the price of everything, that's his legacy.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Despite the hysteria, it was always going to unfold like this in reality.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Despite the hysteria, it was always going to unfold like this in reality.

Allegedly the deal proposed days ago which trump rejected to look tough

 

[chiefdave]

Think someone called it earlier in the thread. Fuck all changes yet Trump will announce it as a big victory.

Its like here when the government announces something and when you scratch beneath the surface you find its the same thing thats been announced multiple times in the past.

 

[Captain Dart]

Some sort of trade war in progress.

List of products from the United States subject to 25 per cent tariffs effective February 4, 2025 - Canada.ca

Effective February 4, 2025, the government is imposing 25 per cent tariffs on $30 billion in goods imported from the United States (U.S.).

www.canada.ca

 

[SBT]

U.S. to delay China tariffs after Xi confirms Trump as winner of First Annual Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence

 

[shmmeee]

I have a feeling he’ll claim some non existent victory then remove them. Like “see Canada has promised to stop sending fentanyl over because of my tariffs”

.

 

[chiefdave]

Nobody likes a show off shmmeee

 

[chiefdave]

In a statement on X, Canada's PM Justin Trudeau mentioned the outline of a new border security plan - much of which had already been announced in December.

That C$1.3bn (£724m) plan included efforts to disrupt the fentanyl trade, new tools for law enforcement, enhanced coordination with US law enforcement, increased information sharing and limiting traffic at the border.

There was also a deployment of drones and Black Hawk helicopters for surveillance.

and there it is, the worst part is you know there will be a huge chunk of Trump supporters who will conveniently ignore the facts and declare it a victory

 

[chiefdave]

Mexico have sent 10k troops to the border.

According to Radio 4 this morning it seems there is a good chance this is a re-announcement of a deal made with Biden for Mexico to send 10K troops to the border.

 

[shmmeee]

According to Radio 4 this morning it seems there is a good chance this is a re-announcement of a deal made with Biden for Mexico to send 10K troops to the border.

His whole thing seems to be relying on his supporters having not been paying attention under Biden and reannouncing Bidens policies as his own. And to be fair to him it’s working a treat.

 

[SBT]

His whole thing seems to be relying on his supporters having not been paying attention under Biden and reannouncing Bidens policies as his own. And to be fair to him it’s working a treat.

Trump does at least understand that being seen to be doing conspicuous leadership stuff is often just as (if not more) important to the average voter as what that stuff actually is.

 

[shmmeee]

Trump does at least understand that being seen to be doing conspicuous leadership stuff is often just as (if not more) important to the average voter as what that stuff actually is.

Im not sure Biden was hiding things like the CHIPS Act and action on the border.

 

[SBT]

Im not sure Biden was hiding things like the CHIPS Act and action on the border.

And yet I think comparatively few people could tell you what the CHIPS Act is and how Biden got it passed.