The Philosopher
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Right ho. Check some of my other posts, there are worse than that, surely?
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Right ho. Check some of my other posts, there are worse than that, surely?
Mucca Mad Boys
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His whole Cov career, it’s 2.5 so why chuck the baby out with the bath water? If you’d sell Simms for anything less than £15m, you’d have to be an idiot.
shmmeee
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2.72. He’s OK he’s not irreplaceable and we wouldn’t get close to £15m for him. But his lack of impact on the team when he’s not scoring mean he has to be outstanding when he’s not scoring. Which is often cos he’s a streaky player.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Read that and wondered "why are the other two difficult?"
shmmeee
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*unattractive
Sky Blue Goblin
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Just had a thought, now we have Grimes could we move to a 4-4-2.
Simms works better with a partner with him up front. Feel Sheaf and Grimes could absolutely hold the midfield and string it together.
Formation is compact to help us defend with a high line and can be fluid in movement? Also gets EMC and wright on the pitch together.
Simms works better with a partner with him up front. Feel Sheaf and Grimes could absolutely hold the midfield and string it together.
Formation is compact to help us defend with a high line and can be fluid in movement? Also gets EMC and wright on the pitch together.
Wilson was in goal for Leeds away
Chicken Mcgraw
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Jheeze, all of them have really let themselves down haven’t they. I wonder where we could be with a competent GK
TomRad85
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Love how 3 of these are from the same game and are actually Ben Wilson
Chicken Mcgraw
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Love how 3 of these are from the same game and are actually Ben Wilson
He’s even worse than Dovin!
skybluecam
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Wilson was in goal for Leeds away
Swansea home, not a howler.
Stoke away - the guy is 6 yards out, no time to react
Dovin is objectively one of the best keepers in the league - currently 4th on PSxG +/- per 90
Chicken Mcgraw
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Wilson was in goal for Leeds away
Swansea home, not a howler.
Stoke away - the guy is 6 yards out, no time to react
Dovin is objectively one of the best keepers in the league - currently 4th on PSxG +/- per 90
So you agree he’s made more than one error then. Nice
Chicken Mcgraw
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The standards are so low for our keepers that being beaten twice at your near post in our opening 6 games is acceptable.
Bristol City one, he couldn't collect the corner with the amount of bodies in front of him and he had a man basically lying on his feet so he couldn't dive for a screamer he had no chance of saving anyway. On Stoke, getting megged from 6 yards out was the only place Baker could've scored. You can't set yourself as a keeper with your legs closedWilson was in goal for Leeds away
Swansea home, not a howler.
Stoke away - the guy is 6 yards out, no time to react
Dovin is objectively one of the best keepers in the league - currently 4th on PSxG +/- per 90
Chicken Mcgraw
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And why did he parry the original free kick out for a corner? He had three attempts to deal with it and failed each time. A ‘top championship’ keeper prevents that goal on one of those occasions
TomRad85
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You don't actually think Dovin is a bad keeper surely? By Championship standards he's already good and unlike most in the league is probably going to get better.
Chicken Mcgraw
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Nah I don’t mind him. I think he’ll end up being a great keeper. I just think our fans are desperate to absolve him of blame sometimes. Much prefer him to the other 2.
I can't remember the free kick and can't see it on any highlights which is why I didn't comment on it. He didn't have 3 attempts to deal with it as you can't blame him for not collecting the corner or saving the screamer. Swansea at home went through a defender's legs so again that's harsh as he's unsighted. QPR and Leeds I accept (even though you could equally blame Lati and the rest of the defence for letting Bogle get that far)
Chicken Mcgraw
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The free kick was a soft one by Twine than should’ve been caught. Fair enough on the rest of your post I just think there’s an awful lot of excuse making that wouldn’t be afforded to Collins or Wilson if it was them.
Hopefully there are no more errors to discuss in the future!
skybluecam
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I will give you 2 errors - Leeds home and QPR away.
But you don't seem to appreciate the great saves he's made - e.g. Blackburn away where they were all over us first half and he kept us in the game. Watford home he made an incredible save from a deflected shot to prevent an equaliser. He was a massive part of our 4 league wins in a row, only beaten by an OG in those games.
Thinking we need to replace him at this point is a genuinely ludicrous opinion
Chicken Mcgraw
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I just don’t think those saves were ‘incredible’. If the deflected shot at home to Watford beats him, I’d have suggested he tries his luck outfield!
TomRad85
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Also think people go with the assumption all other keepers save everything they should and its only their own teams keeper that chucks one in occasionally. They are all at it. As long as they don't do it too often (see our other 2 keepers.)
Chicken Mcgraw
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Those 2 saves by Meslier on Wednesday were better than any save Dovin made and any save I can remember Dovin making in the 4 wins prior.
skybluecam
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Many people think that Johannson is the best keeper in the league and he absolutely gifted us one last season
TomRad85
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I'm happy we went with Dovin over Johansson (thanks Dean.) The potential is way way higher imo.
Chicken Mcgraw
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Not sure that was Johannson’s fault, I think one of their centre halves blinked and distracted him!
DannyThomas_1981
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I’m more in the 4-2-3-1 camp Goblin. Sheaf-Grimes in the 2, Saka/Rudoni/EMC in the 3, Wright as the spearhead. Or alternate it, Wright for EMC, Simms for Wright. I really want Rudoni on the pitch in a 10 type role with Sheaf/Grimes controlling the midfield.
Sky Blue Goblin
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Think the 4-2-3-1 would be great as well. Would be interested to see how Wright does playing as the spearhead again and solves the Rudoni issue (felt only place I could put him was over Saka).
People surely only think that down to the amount of shots he has to deal with. Sign of a good keeper is to be alert when you've had nothing to do. Take Ramsdale as an example, good keeper if he's kept busy (which is why he was highly rated before signing for Arsenal), as soon as he was only required to make 1 - 2 saves a game, he started making mistakes. Best keeper in the league for me is Cooper, not far behind is Trafford as he must find it so hard not to fall asleep with Burnley's style of play
Mucca Mad Boys
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£15m including add-ons is entirely reasonable to expect for Simms.
Not a bad shout, but you’d have to play Rudoni RM over Sakamoto because we need at least one creative midfielder, Sheaf and Grimes are more progressive players who are safe in possession. Torp and Rudoni are more risky on the ball in terms of creativity.
Sakamoto won’t be a starter, he’s a good player but I don’t think he’ll be considered a start for much longer.
skybluecam
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Go and rewatch the watford save. He has to completely readjust with his weight going the opposite way. If you don't think that's a great save you don't know much about goalkeeping.
Ironic that you praise Meslier given how many shockers he's had this season
Chicken Mcgraw
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I disagree I think it was routine. Leeds fans hate Meslier and would probably sell him tomorrow, yet we’ve seen him make 2 better saves in one half than we’ve seen Dovin make all season. Sort of proves my point
Nick
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Dovin made one down to his right the other week, near enough the same as the Leeds Keeper's one.
DannyThomas_1981
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Are you drunk or actually coming up with this nonsense sober? Even 10 pints down wouldn’t absolve you to be honest.
