Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (45 Viewers)

[PVA]

Already started on card #2 then.

Again, truth hurts doesn't it.

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

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I respect Zelensky for standing up for himself. Ultimately, if he doesn’t like a deal, he doesn’t have to accept the terms and continue to fight on without US support.

The reality is, there is no defined victory conditions, or plan to force the Russians out. The war in its current state relies is frozen and is at a stalemate. Russia has formally annexed the regions it currently occupies so will not give territory up without being forced out. Ukraine’s plan is to continue the war until the Putin regime collapses, presumably.

 

[PVA]

You were more upset the orange man was saying mean words to Zelensky

 

[Evo1883]

I'm not entirely sure what all the side arguments are about so cant get involved.

But Trump and Vances behaviour should concern everybody but Putin and trumps support base .. because its wild

 

[Ccfcisparks]

American version of “the thick of it”

 

[PVA]

I'm not entirely sure what all the side arguments are about so cant get involved.

But Trump and Vances behaviour should concern everybody but Putin and trumps support base .. because its wild

The side arguments are a bunch of weirdos who have an issue with Starmer being diplomatic with Trump and then threw their toys out the pram when it was pointed out they worship a bloke who calls Hamas his friends.

But yes you are right, their behaviour in that 'meeting' was appalling. And their pettiness and spite means they will fuck Ukraine over for this.

 

[Skybluekyle]

I don't think either come out of it very well, but one is the leader of a country fighting for its survival.

Was absolutely incredible to watch.

 

[SBT]

PVA's hero went grovelling to these cunts yesterday

It's repulsive - presumably it repulses Starmer as well. But if the alternative is having the UK get humiliated on international TV and throwing months of diplomacy out the window because JD Vance fancies an IRL Twitter beef, then is that a better outcome for the country? And that's a genuine question btw.

 

[PVA]

It's repulsive - presumably it repulses Starmer as well. But if the alternative is having the UK get humiliated on international TV and throwing months of diplomacy out the window because JD Vance fancies an IRL Twitter beef, then is that a better outcome for the country? And that's a genuine question btw.

Quite. It's really not fucking rocket science (or apparently it is to some.)

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Trump and vance acting like a pair of school bullies trying to steal someones lunch money.
Pair of ghouls trying to strip a country at war to fund his lapdogs car project . Fucking vile the pair of them.

 

[fernandopartridge]

It's repulsive - presumably it repulses Starmer as well. But if the alternative is having the UK get humiliated on international TV and throwing months of diplomacy out the window because JD Vance fancies an IRL Twitter beef, then is that a better outcome for the country? And that's a genuine question btw.

The UK was humiliated. Offering that c**t a state visit and reading to him. Embarrassing.

 

[SBT]

The UK was humiliated. Offering that c**t a state visit and reading to him. Embarrassing.

I agree. How about the diplomacy though?

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Fair play to Zelensky standing up for his country and himself. I reckon he knew they were going to shaft him before going. Like a couple of dodgy second hand car salesmen.
Trump got the arse because he turned him down.

 

[fernandopartridge]

I agree. How about the diplomacy though?

What actual material concessions were gained apart from just some subtle changes in tone? The way they've just treated Zelensky hardly shows a material change of attitude, does it?

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

The UK was humiliated. Offering that c**t a state visit and reading to him. Embarrassing.

The leader of one of our biggest allies, oh yeah let’s piss him off and fall out with them. What a clueless thing to say

 

[Saddlebrains]

I quite like Trump

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I quite like Trump

fuck me you shouldn’t have said that, prepare yourself for the deluded comments from the sbt ‘experts’

 

[Sbarcher]

Pair of school yard bullies.

 

[Northants Sky Blue]

Hodges saying this looked pre-planned.

 

[SBT]

What actual material concessions were gained apart from just some subtle changes in tone? The way they've just treated Zelensky hardly shows a material change of attitude, does it?

The avenues to at least some of Starmer's desired outcomes are still open thanks to his genuflecting. The avenues to Zelensky's now appear very much closed.

Zelensky's willingness to stand up for himself and his country in the face of a bully is admirable. It's also proved to be completely futile and has clearly damaged his country's diplomatic fortunes. I genuinely don't know which holds most value in this Trump era.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

Hodges saying this looked pre-planned.

Of course it was and Zelensky went knowing this.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

With what? You really need to live in the real world.

That’s the thing, you can disagree with the ways and means of it… what is a viable alternative to the Trump/Vance view of the situation?

Does Ukraine have the resources to oust Russia? No.

Does the west have the political will to intervene on Ukraine’s behalf to oust Russia? Also, no.

There’s not even a plan or defined victory conditions so the expectation atm is to just fund the status quo until the Russian regime collapses, presumably.

 

[fernandopartridge]

That’s the thing, you can disagree with the ways and means of it… what is a viable alternative to the Trump/Vance view of the situation?

Does Ukraine have the resources to oust Russia? No.

Does the west have the political will to intervene on Ukraine’s behalf to oust Russia? Also, no.

There’s not even a plan or defined victory conditions so the expectation atm is to just fund the status quo until the Russian regime collapses, presumably.

That is not realistic

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Did I?

What I've always thought. Trump is an ignorant, obnoxious c**t! How could he speak in public like that, to a visiting head of state? Disgusting behaviour.

I’ve never been more angry
They are a couple of cunts absolute cunts

Vance jumping in to say have you ever said thank you

Does he think he’s in primary school - what a c**t

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The avenues to at least some of Starmer's desired outcomes are still open thanks to his genuflecting. The avenues to Zelensky's now appear very much closed.

Zelensky's willingness to stand up for himself and his country in the face of a bully is admirable. It's also proved to be completely futile and has clearly damaged his country's diplomatic fortunes. I genuinely don't know which holds most value in this Trump era.

It also displayed why Zelensky is considered a difficult man to work with by multiple world leaders, including the last US president.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

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Insane rambling

Fuck. Right. Off.

"I don't want advantage." Coming from someone who's trying to get access to Ukraine's minerals cos an invaded country is desperate.

So Ukraine's options seem to be get killed by Russia or fucked by the US.

We really need Trump's body to step up to the plate. A blood vessel in the brain. A blocked artery. A burst appendix. Maybe his own major intestine, in a desperate bid to save humanity, could leap straight up through his neck and throttle his brain. But then we'd be left with Vance...

Stop the world, I want to get off.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

That is not realistic

Exactly my point. It just isn’t sustainable and there needs to be an acknowledgement of that reality.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I quite like Trump

After watching that??
Wow

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

I’ve never been more angry
They are a couple of cunts absolute cunts

Vance jumping in to say have you ever said thank you

Does he think he’s in primary school - what a c**t

Embarrassing language used by the representative of this forum to the club, it’s Friday night have a few beers and relax instead of rambling on here

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That’s the thing, you can disagree with the ways and means of it… what is a viable alternative to the Trump/Vance view of the situation?

Does Ukraine have the resources to oust Russia? No.

Does the west have the political will to intervene on Ukraine’s behalf to oust Russia? Also, no.

There’s not even a plan or defined victory conditions so the expectation atm is to just fund the status quo until the Russian regime collapses, presumably.

Mucca we are at fuck them arent we?

russia has broken all laws to take over another sovereign country by force

USA can bugger off

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Embarrassing language used by the representative of this forum to the club, it’s Friday night have a few beers and relax instead of rambling on here

You upset bu a swear word ?? Grow up

Thbakfully I don’t have to represent you or others who think what you’ve just witnessed is in any way acceptable

 

[Alkhen]

I quite like Trump

Fair enough, can't see a single redeeming feature personally

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

That is not realistic

I feel like Ukraine need to just do what they can for all of us much like we did in the Second World War when other countries were bending over backwards
If USA think money is more important than standards fuck em

 

[Flying Fokker]

Ahem. Where’s Dom when you need a reasoned opinion?

edit: He bobbed up.

 

[SkyBlueDom26]

Thbakfully I don’t have to represent you or others who think what you’ve just witnessed is in any way acceptable

I haven’t said my opinion on it so stop waffling complete shite

The reaction from people on here wanting us to cut ties with the USA is a complete embarrassment