Ellis simms (15 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

There is no knots here mate

I've explained how I thought he had a poor game , you've disagreed and proceeded to try and make me feel silly for some reason , so I'm asking you to put across your argument as to why he played well yesterday , and you cant seem to do that .

I’ve not tried to make you feel silly, I’m just pointing out that you argument conflicts previous thoughts which suggests it’s an issue with the player rather than his performance.

 

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[Evo1883]

I guess it's the difference between winning games " in spite" of an inviduals performance and winning "because" of an individuals performance . They're not mutually exclusive in my eyes if we win

Sure , but all of the stomata yesterday point to ellis not really being involved and when he was he generally gave the ball away or made a bad pass

He didn't have a good game and thats a reasonable assessment

 

[Briles]

On a side note it was pretty incredible that we had our captain and top scorer on the bench yesterday when 2-0 up

 

[Briles]

Sure , but all of the stomata yesterday point to ellis not really being involved and when he was he generally gave the ball away or made a bad pass

He didn't have a good game and thats a reasonable assessment

He has better games granted

 

[Evo1883]

I’ve not tried to make you feel silly, I’m just pointing out that you argument conflicts previous thoughts which suggests it’s an issue with the player rather than his performance.

Ok so away from the fact I was a matty godden fanboy let's focus on the question .

Tell me how ellis simms had a good game yesterday

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse

 

[Evo1883]

Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse

I think its a 3 month out issue

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I think its a 3 month out issue

We will see then won’t we.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse

Maybe but think being out for so long will make him rusty as well

 

[Evo1883]

We will see then won’t we.

Well considering most of his career is played as a CF and its only really us that played him left I'd suggest that its not the role

 

[Briles]

Ok so away from the fact I was a matty godden fanboy let's focus on the question .

Tell me how ellis simms had a good game yesterday

If you look at the first two goals he blocks their defender for the first and actually occupies 2 for torps second. It's clear he has been given a specific role and it's working. If you want to drill down into the granular minutiae then it might be different. But in the big moments he did his job

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Well considering most of his career is played as a CF and its only really us that played him left I'd suggest that its not the role

I’m not really sure on what point you’re trying to make.

my question was we will see how Haji does in the CF role in this lampard side and how it’s set up

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

If you look at the first two goals he blocks their defender for the first and actually occupies 2 for torps second. It's clear he has been given a specific role and it's working. If you want to drill down into the granular minutiae then it might be different. But in the big moments he did his job

Just to add, with him occupying space and CBs it means people become unmarked like yesterday as per the post or Rudoni at Oxford

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse

He’ll go on the wing eventually, Simms has added a lot of value with his hold up play and physicality against defenders. Wright’s most impactful moment yesterday was when he picked up the ball and ran at defenders down the left flank.

Wright did put pressure on the defender which led to a poor header that ended up with Thomas and the winner.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Well considering most of his career is played as a CF and its only really us that played him left I'd suggest that its not the role

I think it’s more than there a different roles for a CF. Playing as a target man who is to occupy space and bring people in isn’t the same as how Wright would want to play imo

 

[covcity4life]

Its crazy talk

I like Simms but he wasn't anything special yesterday and not sure what people saw to make them think he was

 

[Ccfcisparks]

He’ll go on the wing eventually, Simms has added a lot of value with his hold up play and physicality against defenders. Wright’s most impactful moment yesterday was when he picked up the ball and ran at defenders down the left flank.

Wright did put pressure on the defender which led to a poor header that ended up with Thomas and the winner.

Yep agreed if EMC is out can see Haji being LW again.

 

[Briles]

Just to add, with him occupying space and CBs it means people become unmarked like yesterday as per the post or Rudoni at Oxford

I think I read we have scored more headed goals than any team across Europe's top leagues. That's crazy

 

[Evo1883]

If you look at the first two goals he blocks their defender for the first and actually occupies 2 for torps second. It's clear he has been given a specific role and it's working. If you want to drill down into the granular minutiae then it might be different. But in the big moments he did his job

The first goal he absolutely blocked the player , the second he didn't do anything but watch the ball get passed to torp .

His overall game was poor

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I like Simms but he wasn't anything special yesterday and not sure what people saw to make them think he was

Don’t think any bodies arguing he was superb yesterday but he’s clearly playing a role and is doing it well hence the wins

 

[Evo1883]

I’m not really sure on what point you’re trying to make.

my question was we will see how Haji does in the CF role in this lampard side and how it’s set up

Many on this forum dont seem to think haji can play through the middle which is where hes scored most of his career goals , is my point

 

[Evo1883]

I like Simms but he wasn't anything special yesterday and not sure what people saw to make them think he was

Thank you

 

[Briles]

The first goal he absolutely blocked the player , the second he didn't do anything but watch the ball get passed to torp .

His overall game was poor

He can have an overall poor game if he influences the occasions we score and win

 

[covcity4life]

Don’t think any bodies arguing he was superb yesterday but he’s clearly playing a role and is doing it well hence the wins

He's doing well and some games better than others

Still has a lot more to offer us though imo

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Many on this forum dont seem to think haji can play through the middle which is where hes scored most of his career goals , is my point

So it’s a point devoid from what we were discussing

 

[Ccfcisparks]

He's doing well and some games better than others

Still has a lot more to offer us though imo

Agree

 

[Evo1883]

Don’t think any bodies arguing he was superb yesterday but he’s clearly playing a role and is doing it well hence the wins

This is nonsense , not every player is playing well every game even when we win

 

[baldy]

Think it’ll be interesting to see how Haji does down the middle. He’s looked not great since coming back. I think it’s a role isuse

Since coming back? He's only been on twice as a sub ffs - give him time

 

[StrettoBoy]

Sure , but all of the stomata yesterday point to ellis not really being involved

 

[Evo1883]

So it’s a point devoid from what we were discussing

You suggested he could have an issue with his role , which is doubt is true , hes the best striker at the club

 

[Evo1883]

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Haha new phone , but will use it going forward

 

[Ccfcisparks]

This is nonsense , not every player is playing well every game even when we win

Yeah nonsense to you. Not to me and the countless people who’ve liked my posts agreeing.

Fortunately it’s a game of opinions and yours isn’t the final say

 

[baldy]

So it’s a point devoid from what we were discussing

Stop discussing it then

 

[Evo1883]

Yeah nonsense to you. Not to me and the countless people who’ve liked my posts agreeing.

Fortunately it’s a game of opinions and yours isn’t the final say

No its nonsense, several players have played poorly in various different matches , thats not opinion that's a fact ..

Weird to suggest otherwise

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Yep agreed if EMC is out can see Haji being LW again.

Against Derby and/or Sunderland, I’d like to see Sakamoto-Simms-Wright.

I’m assuming EMC is injured, but even if he’s fit and well, Sakamoto has played so well in the last 2 games he absolutely deserves to keep his spot. It’s his shirt to lose.