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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I laugh at your posts as they're Chat GPT garbage that contain as much substance as a Kier Starmer rallying cry.

Then I continue to laugh at them as the transition from initially playing nice through to showing yourself up to be the insecure little weasel that you are once you're challenged is prime time entertainment.

Oh dear, not only absent of a single counter-argument, but also demonstrative of someone who clearly wished they had stuck to hiding behind the laughing emoji button rather than writing anything. - Like the coward that you are, only capable of saying something once others have softened the perimeter for you. I'll take the Chat GPT comment as a compliment though. Thank you.
 

Evo1883

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Ellis simms though right
Paul Rudd Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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Oh dear, not only absent of a single counter-argument, but also demonstrative of someone who clearly wished they had stuck to hiding behind the laughing emoji button rather than writing anything. - Like the coward that you are, only capable of saying something once others have softened the perimeter for you. I'll take the Chat GPT comment as a compliment though. Thank you.

Au contraire my unhinged friend I always take pleasure in picking you apart when the opportunity presents itself. It's often a pleasure, never a chore - I mean literally never a chore as it's becoming quite a simple task these days.

And I've already given you a counter argument. I thought you were an author, concerning if you can't read? Your response in kind makes absolutely zero sense and is complete waffle.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Au contraire my unhinged friend I always take pleasure in picking you apart when the opportunity presents itself. It's often a pleasure, never a chore - I mean literally never a chore as it's becoming quite a simple task these days.

And I've already given you a counter argument. I thought you were an author, concerning if you can't read? Your response in kind makes absolutely zero sense and is complete waffle.

I really hope you believe what you have written, but I somehow doubt even that. You made one semi-valid point which I came back to you on, which you have conveniently ignored whilst going on 'unhinged' rants about Chat GPT and ironically saying I can't read. The rest of your responses are just from the perspective of someone clinging on to a slither of pride, trying to windmill punches hoping one of them will land, but being unsuccessful.

I would advise someone that follows others around an internet forum they probably need to spend more time picking themselves apart, rather than deluding themselves into thinking they are doing it to others. I'll leave you to it, so please continue to enjoy following my posts and activity.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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I really hope you believe what you have written, but I somehow doubt even that. You made one semi-valid point which I came back to you on, which you have conveniently ignored whilst going on 'unhinged' rants about Chat GPT and ironically saying I can't read. The rest of your responses are just from the perspective of someone clinging on to a slither of pride, trying to windmill punches hoping one of them will land, but being unsuccessful.

I would advise someone that follows others around an internet forum they probably need to spend more time picking themselves apart, rather than deluding themselves into thinking they are doing it to others. I'll leave you to it, so please continue to enjoy following my posts and activity.

Let me break down your post for you:

Ignoring the rest of it, the response to me didn't indicate flawed logic. It showcased a massive difference in sample size, which once again has not been responded to, as their isn't really a counter-argument for it. You have then gone onto say he was an integral part of the team who went on a run last season, and whist this is true to some extent, completely fails to look at the full season and our form patterns with or without him surrounding it.

What sample size are you talking about? He was consistently shown to be a standout player throughout last season and the season before when available. Statistics back that up as does the fact he was named player of the season in the 23/24 season. His form obviously wasn't confined to the positive 14 game spell last season. Such a weak point to make.

We continued to do well in his absence, and then our season totally fell off a cliff which coincided with his return to the team. Not really a good showcase to have as a captain is it?

Yes, but as previous posters has pointed out that doesn't mean he's a poor player. Or does one player make an entire team? Correlation does not imply causation. Google that if you have to there's no harm in it.

Likewise the season before having two of our best spells, including our promotion charge, without him.

Well this is factually wrong. Try again. First run of form during the 22/23 season he played 13/14 games during which time we W8 D4 and L2.

In the second run of form during that season he played 9 out of 19 league games I believe as he was struggling with injury. But he also played a part in the 1-0 win vs Middlesbrough which saw us get through to the final.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Let me break down your post for you:

Ignoring the rest of it, the response to me didn't indicate flawed logic. It showcased a massive difference in sample size, which once again has not been responded to, as their isn't really a counter-argument for it. You have then gone onto say he was an integral part of the team who went on a run last season, and whist this is true to some extent, completely fails to look at the full season and our form patterns with or without him surrounding it.

What sample size are you talking about? He was consistently shown to be a standout player throughout last season and the season before when available. Statistics back that up as does the fact he was named player of the season in the 23/24 season. His form obviously wasn't confined to the positive 14 game spell last season. Such a weak point to make.

We continued to do well in his absence, and then our season totally fell off a cliff which coincided with his return to the team. Not really a good showcase to have as a captain is it?

Yes, but as previous posters has pointed out that doesn't mean he's a poor player. Or does one player make an entire team? Correlation does not imply causation. Google that if you have to there's no harm in it.

Likewise the season before having two of our best spells, including our promotion charge, without him.

Well this is factually wrong. Try again. First run of form during the 22/23 season he played 13/14 games during which time we W8 D4 and L2.

In the second run of form during that season he played 9 out of 19 league games I believe as he was struggling with injury. But he also played a part in the 1-0 win vs Middlesbrough which saw us get through to the final.

It is interesting that your behaviour has changed after I said I wouldn't engage with you any further. It is a concerning level of dedication to this obsession with me, but whilst I would encourage you to give it up and stop embarrassing yourself, before you do, here is a lesson for you.

Here is a link to Sheaf on Transfermarkt - go through it and look at all the seasons. What you are saying is factually incorrect on many levels.



1) The 22/23 season:

There were 17 games (not 19) between the Luton game where he got injured and the playoffs, when we went on a storming run. He got injured and we started picking up points straight away. He played a full match for only two of those wins, the rest coming without him. 33 points on that run, only 8 of which we picked up when sheaf played a full game. In fact, other than the two wins I talk about, the only full game he played in the rest of this season was the playoff final - which we lost.

We didn't lose a single game without him that season.

27 full games with Sheaf: 40 points = 1.48 (points per game)
19 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.57 (points per game)


2) The 23/24 season:


Patterns are very noticeable here, and in the 8 games he played since coming back from injury, we claimed only 6 points. Of course that was our playoff hopes down the toilet. We also went on a four game losing streak directly after he came back from his injury earlier in the season in October too. That is twice in one season our form bombed on his return.

We lost less than 5 games without him that season.

28 full games with Sheaf: 34 points = 1.214 (points per game)
18 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.666 (points per game)

2) The 24/25 season:


10 wins from 11 largely without him. Form kicked off positively as soon as he got injured.

We have lost barely any games without him this season.

14 full games with Sheaf: 20 points = 1.42 (points per game)
22 games without Sheaf: 36 points = 1.63 (points per game)


No, correlation does not imply causation, not on a singular sample size, which was my point on the stupid Hadji Wright comparisons (which you called flawed logic, but clearly didn't have enough brain cells to understand). This is a sample size across three seasons, with four absences. Not only is there enough data to properly analyse, there are patterns which are very repetitive and alarming. I have had to draw the line on sub appearances in general, but as another poster highlighted, we have lost only a handful of games without him across the last three seasons. We have some of our best periods of form without him on all three seasons too, and our form have dropped off a cliff when he has come back from injury on every occasion where we have been able to analyse a sample size of matches following his return.

It doesn't matter what opinions you want to throw out there, the facts are the facts. These same opinions had Sheaf playing for England, and going to the PL for 20 million. It isn't the real world. You've said you enjoy pulling me apart, but rather you've pulled your own pants down here again.

This will be my last post on the matter, and my last post to you. So read this, get a hard on, and go and wank yourself thinking about your last interaction with me. This thread can now be about Simms, and tonight can be about the match. I hope we win. Good Evening.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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It is interesting that your behaviour has changed after I said I wouldn't engage with you any further. It is a concerning level of dedication to this obsession with me, but whilst I would encourage you to give it up and stop embarrassing yourself, before you do, here is a lesson for you.

Here is a link to Sheaf on Transfermarkt - go through it and look at all the seasons. What you are saying is factually incorrect on many levels.



1) The 22/23 season:

There were 17 games (not 19) between the Luton game where he got injured and the playoffs, when we went on a storming run. He got injured and we started picking up points straight away. He played a full match for only two of those wins, the rest coming without him. 33 points on that run, only 8 of which we picked up when sheaf played a full game. In fact, other than the two wins I talk about, the only full game he played in the rest of this season was the playoff final - which we lost.

We didn't lose a single game without him that season.

27 full games with Sheaf: 40 points = 1.48 (points per game)
19 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.57 (points per game)


2) The 23/24 season:


Patterns are very noticeable here, and in the 8 games he played since coming back from injury, we claimed only 6 points. Of course that was our playoff hopes down the toilet. We also went on a four game losing streak directly after he came back from his injury earlier in the season in October too. That is twice in one season our form bombed on his return.

We lost less than 5 games without him that season.

28 full games with Sheaf: 34 points = 1.214 (points per game)
18 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.666 (points per game)

2) The 24/25 season:


10 wins from 11 largely without him. Form kicked off positively as soon as he got injured.

We have lost barely any games without him this season.

14 full games with Sheaf: 20 points = 1.42 (points per game)
22 games without Sheaf: 36 points = 1.63 (points per game)


No, correlation does not imply causation, not on a singular sample size, which was my point on the stupid Hadji Wright comparisons (which you called flawed logic, but clearly didn't have enough brain cells to understand). This is a sample size across three seasons, with four absences. Not only is there enough data to properly analyse, there are patterns which are very repetitive and alarming. I have had to draw the line on sub appearances in general, but as another poster highlighted, we have lost only a handful of games without him across the last three seasons. We have some of our best periods of form without him on all three seasons too, and our form have dropped off a cliff when he has come back from injury on every occasion where we have been able to analyse a sample size of matches following his return.

It doesn't matter what opinions you want to throw out there, the facts are the facts. These same opinions had Sheaf playing for England, and going to the PL for 20 million. It isn't the real world. You've said you enjoy pulling me apart, but rather you've pulled your own pants down here again.

This will be my last post on the matter, and my last post to you. So read this, get a hard on, and go and wank yourself thinking about your last interaction with me. This thread can now be about Simms, and tonight can be about the match. I hope we win. Good Evening.

Enjoy writing another shite book no one will read you insecure waste of air.

The fact you think anything you've bothered posting is fact is beyond hilarious.
 

Grendel

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It is interesting that your behaviour has changed after I said I wouldn't engage with you any further. It is a concerning level of dedication to this obsession with me, but whilst I would encourage you to give it up and stop embarrassing yourself, before you do, here is a lesson for you.

Here is a link to Sheaf on Transfermarkt - go through it and look at all the seasons. What you are saying is factually incorrect on many levels.



1) The 22/23 season:

There were 17 games (not 19) between the Luton game where he got injured and the playoffs, when we went on a storming run. He got injured and we started picking up points straight away. He played a full match for only two of those wins, the rest coming without him. 33 points on that run, only 8 of which we picked up when sheaf played a full game. In fact, other than the two wins I talk about, the only full game he played in the rest of this season was the playoff final - which we lost.

We didn't lose a single game without him that season.

27 full games with Sheaf: 40 points = 1.48 (points per game)
19 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.57 (points per game)


2) The 23/24 season:


Patterns are very noticeable here, and in the 8 games he played since coming back from injury, we claimed only 6 points. Of course that was our playoff hopes down the toilet. We also went on a four game losing streak directly after he came back from his injury earlier in the season in October too. That is twice in one season our form bombed on his return.

We lost less than 5 games without him that season.

28 full games with Sheaf: 34 points = 1.214 (points per game)
18 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.666 (points per game)

2) The 24/25 season:


10 wins from 11 largely without him. Form kicked off positively as soon as he got injured.

We have lost barely any games without him this season.

14 full games with Sheaf: 20 points = 1.42 (points per game)
22 games without Sheaf: 36 points = 1.63 (points per game)


No, correlation does not imply causation, not on a singular sample size, which was my point on the stupid Hadji Wright comparisons (which you called flawed logic, but clearly didn't have enough brain cells to understand). This is a sample size across three seasons, with four absences. Not only is there enough data to properly analyse, there are patterns which are very repetitive and alarming. I have had to draw the line on sub appearances in general, but as another poster highlighted, we have lost only a handful of games without him across the last three seasons. We have some of our best periods of form without him on all three seasons too, and our form have dropped off a cliff when he has come back from injury on every occasion where we have been able to analyse a sample size of matches following his return.

It doesn't matter what opinions you want to throw out there, the facts are the facts. These same opinions had Sheaf playing for England, and going to the PL for 20 million. It isn't the real world. You've said you enjoy pulling me apart, but rather you've pulled your own pants down here again.

This will be my last post on the matter, and my last post to you. So read this, get a hard on, and go and wank yourself thinking about your last interaction with me. This thread can now be about Simms, and tonight can be about the match. I hope we win. Good Evening.

I assume (I cannot be bothered to look) that "full games with Sheaf" are when he played the full game and games without Sheaf are games he may have played some part in?
 

Grendel

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So does the 3-1 win over Huddersfield in the 22 23 season count as a full game as an example?
 

ccfc1234

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It is interesting that your behaviour has changed after I said I wouldn't engage with you any further. It is a concerning level of dedication to this obsession with me, but whilst I would encourage you to give it up and stop embarrassing yourself, before you do, here is a lesson for you.

Here is a link to Sheaf on Transfermarkt - go through it and look at all the seasons. What you are saying is factually incorrect on many levels.



1) The 22/23 season:

There were 17 games (not 19) between the Luton game where he got injured and the playoffs, when we went on a storming run. He got injured and we started picking up points straight away. He played a full match for only two of those wins, the rest coming without him. 33 points on that run, only 8 of which we picked up when sheaf played a full game. In fact, other than the two wins I talk about, the only full game he played in the rest of this season was the playoff final - which we lost.

We didn't lose a single game without him that season.

27 full games with Sheaf: 40 points = 1.48 (points per game)
19 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.57 (points per game)


2) The 23/24 season:


Patterns are very noticeable here, and in the 8 games he played since coming back from injury, we claimed only 6 points. Of course that was our playoff hopes down the toilet. We also went on a four game losing streak directly after he came back from his injury earlier in the season in October too. That is twice in one season our form bombed on his return.

We lost less than 5 games without him that season.

28 full games with Sheaf: 34 points = 1.214 (points per game)
18 games without Sheaf: 30 points = 1.666 (points per game)

2) The 24/25 season:


10 wins from 11 largely without him. Form kicked off positively as soon as he got injured.

We have lost barely any games without him this season.

14 full games with Sheaf: 20 points = 1.42 (points per game)
22 games without Sheaf: 36 points = 1.63 (points per game)


No, correlation does not imply causation, not on a singular sample size, which was my point on the stupid Hadji Wright comparisons (which you called flawed logic, but clearly didn't have enough brain cells to understand). This is a sample size across three seasons, with four absences. Not only is there enough data to properly analyse, there are patterns which are very repetitive and alarming. I have had to draw the line on sub appearances in general, but as another poster highlighted, we have lost only a handful of games without him across the last three seasons. We have some of our best periods of form without him on all three seasons too, and our form have dropped off a cliff when he has come back from injury on every occasion where we have been able to analyse a sample size of matches following his return.

It doesn't matter what opinions you want to throw out there, the facts are the facts. These same opinions had Sheaf playing for England, and going to the PL for 20 million. It isn't the real world. You've said you enjoy pulling me apart, but rather you've pulled your own pants down here again.

This will be my last post on the matter, and my last post to you. So read this, get a hard on, and go and wank yourself thinking about your last interaction with me. This thread can now be about Simms, and tonight can be about the match. I hope we win. Good Evening.
If I was Sheafs agent I would point to the fact in most of those seasons we have collectively started poorly and Sheaf is always injured by winter, typically when we kick into gear!
 

SBAndy

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May have just been perception at the ground, I didn’t think there was a lack of effort particularly. He was so horrendously isolated but clearly he’s been told to lay the ball off first time and I wish he had the presence of mind to realise it’s not a great idea when there’s no one within 30 yards of him.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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May have just been perception at the ground, I didn’t think there was a lack of effort particularly. He was so horrendously isolated but clearly he’s been told to lay the ball off first time and I wish he had the presence of mind to realise it’s not a great idea when there’s no one within 30 yards of him.

Agreed. Whenever he knocked the ball down, there were 2-3 Derby players closer to him than one of our players.
 

covcity4life

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Anyone who thinks Simms has been giving us really good centre forward performances need to watch wright today and admit they got it wrong

This is what lampard wants from his striker. Time to start showing it Ellis. Pressure hard. Lost causes too. Try go win every header. If you can't win it.make life hard for the defender. Run st defenders. Score goals
 

covcity4life

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I just want ellis to keep working on improving his game , as we all should .

That today by wright was a level above what any other forward can offer us here
Yeah I'm not hating on him at all. I just want him to work harder

He came on and didn't press as hard as wright but the one time he chased down a lost ball it nearly led to a saka lob chance

He needs to fight for his spot

We will be the winner no matter who plays then
 

fatso

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I just want ellis to keep working on improving his game , as we all should .

That today by wright was a level above what any other forward can offer us here
I hope people can now see what we need up front.
Wright was definitely a different level compared to Simms. And Wright's no where near full match sharpness yet.

It was a great team performance.
 

SBAndy

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He came on and didn't press as hard as wright but the one time he chased down a lost ball it nearly led to a saka lob chance

And ironically that came about because he didn’t challenge the keeper for a header. He’s very frustrating and I think his mentality will hold him back from realising his potential.

As an aside, just having a look at L1 scoring charts and Richard Kone at Wycombe seems to be flying, just 21 years old as well. Far more confident and aggressive playing style; if we could move Simms/BTA on and replace with Kone that would be v good.
 

Hobo

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Simms and Wright are totally different players who can pose the opposition different problems. It is a great example of why you have a squad.

It is interesting how people are all behind Haji Wright after a hat trick (and a brilliant hat trick).
But a lot of fans need reminding they didn't want him near the team today after his performance mid week.

Allen was brilliant too, but I have been reading posts for the last three years that he isn't Championship level. But in a match between two players off contenders he stole the show first half.
 

Perennial Lurker

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Simms and Wright are totally different players who can pose the opposition different problems. It is a great example of why you have a squad.

It is interesting how people are all behind Haji Wright after a hat trick (and a brilliant hat trick).
But a lot of fans need reminding they didn't want him near the team today after his performance mid week.

Allen was brilliant too, but I have been reading posts for the last three years that he isn't Championship level. But in a match between two players off contenders he stole the show first half.
Funny old game one pundit once said 🤣
 

long way home

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Its about improving and each and every player we have should want to learn. Simms is no different and i hope he gets back to hitting the net and putting in performances. It will only be a good thing for the club if he does. I dont think he is a trouble maker who will sulk i think he will see Wright perform and want to play his part going forward while enjoying the team picked win.
 

covcity4life

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Jesus
Simms had just started the last 12 games , remind me how we did in those games ?

It's a squad game FFS

Stop looking for stuff and making shit up .

Wright is our best player full stop , that doesn't make Simms impact any less . And watch how pleased Simms was for Wright when he replaced him
He's not been putting in brilliant performances that's the only point

Some 6 or 7/10s but nothing like wright today. So that's the only debate. Some thinks Simms playing brilliantly some believe still has a way to go

No one is saying he's been terrible
 

Perennial Lurker

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He's not been putting in brilliant performances that's the only point

Some 6 or 7/10s but nothing like wright today. So that's the only debate. Some thinks Simms playing brilliantly some believe still has a way to go

No one is saying he's been terrible
But for some it's like one or the other , why can't we accept both offer something ?
 

Perennial Lurker

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I'm not one of those. Everyone in squad has a part to play

I just want Simms to be better than he has been currently this season that's all. He is capable imo
Of course he is but like I said Tuesday was his 12th consecutive appearance, surely we allow him a below par performance after the previous record breaking run
 

covcity4life

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Of course he is but like I said Tuesday was his 12th consecutive appearance, surely we allow him a below par performance after the previous record breaking run
The point is he hasn't had a truly amazing performance in the 12 game run

He's been ok to decent. But some dress it up as excellent which some of us disagree with that's all
 

Perennial Lurker

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The point is he hasn't had a truly amazing performance in the 12 game run

He's been ok to decent. But some dress it up as excellent which some of us disagree with that's all
I suggest you go through some of those 12 match threads and rating threads and , apart from the latter games , he was being rated very highly
 

fernandopartridge

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Yeah I'm not hating on him at all. I just want him to work harder

He came on and didn't press as hard as wright but the one time he chased down a lost ball it nearly led to a saka lob chance

He needs to fight for his spot

We will be the winner no matter who plays then
There was one moment where there was a loose pass back from them but he was on his heels, will he ever have that hunger and the anticipation it drives?
 

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