Brad Collins (44 Viewers)

[torchomatic]

There is no way in a million years Lampard will be prioritising what it will do to Collins confidence if he's dropped over what is best for our play-off chances.

He might well decide to stick with Collins but only if he thinks it will benefit the team in the here and now.

The only possible reason for considering his confidence would be if he genuinely thinks Collins has a part to play next season. And if that is the case then I'm lost for words.

We'll respectfully disagree on this one I think.

Yep, we'll agree to disagree.

 

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[JulianDarbyFTW]

I used to be goalkeeper for my school, and I could sometimes save the wordlies going top corner but I'd let anything that was hit remotely near me into the back of the net. Collins reminds me of me, except he can't even get near the top corner ones.

 

[SBT]

Not if it’s between that and Collins it ain’t.

I have a feeling Lampard will agree with me on this one.

 

[GC1976]

It’s a Jim Leighton Manu U scenario and some brave decisions to be made ! If only we had a Les Sealy !

 

[SkyblueTexan]

I highly doubt that FL will change keeper for Luton. If he did, it would absolutely destroy Collins and I just cant see hm doing it

It’s for the good of both the team and the player for Collins to be left out. Find a tactful and diplomatic way to express it to him so that he takes it well. He’s been dropped before and should get over it. I think stubbornly persisting with Collins in goal will ruin our playoff chances.

 

[Robinshio]

Have I misread this? Surely you mean get rid of Collins?

Lol of course

 

[GC1976]

I still think we should have got Oggy back in part time coaching he would have improved the GK department! I’m sure he would have been vocal enough to say who is good enough and who can be improved even after a few weeks !

 

[duffer]

I'd contend that dropping Collins might be for his own good as well as that of the team.

His confidence must be shot now. Unless he's got a remarkable level of compartmentalisation he has to be aware of all of the clangers he's dropped - I'd have thought he'd be quietly dreading playing against Luton in a hugely pressured environment.

No one goes out there and tries to play badly, but at the moment he's making too many individual errors, and he needs a rest, imho. FL might be doing him a favour by dropping him...

 

[mmttww]

Losing his distribution and working around that is better than risking more howlers.

He's had his chance(s). Here's hoping that's how Lampard and the team see it, anyway.

 

[SBT]

You don’t really need to worry about letting Collins down gently at this point, because if you drop him at this stage of the season for someone who hasn’t played since the Biden Administration it’s painfully obvious that he’s never playing for us again.

 

[SwanLane]

Dovin has been pretty faultless imo, with the exception of the Leeds 2nd goal in Feb.

The point I’m making is that the defence has been consistently at fault for lots of things over each GK who has played this season. This is the fundamental thing we need to fix next season to be a top 4 and above side, assuming we don’t go up.

Early in the season, it was Dovin not ‘commanding his defence’ and not it’s the defence not being confident because Collins is in goal… how about the defence just has moments of madness more often than they should? It just doesn’t lead to as many goals.

I have little faith in Collins as a GK, but it irritates me when horrible defending gets let off the hook.

I get what you’re saying but the defence do sometimes have good games. Often the individuals can look good and in a few games they have looked ok as a collective.

There are many problems with Collins now. The biggest one is that he is so shot that he will likely crumble under any pressure. Luton will bombard him and it’s really likely that he won’t cope. I mean, he turned sideways for one of their shots yesterday, rather than face it down. His confidence and decision making are shot to such an extent that I don’t think he can actually be classed as match fit. Ok, not my call but there is a huge call they need to make. We can try to make do with the annoying defensive wobbles. But we just can’t seriously play Collins now. I hope FL et al see it that way too.

 

[quinn1971]

It’s a Jim Leighton Manu U scenario and some brave decisions to be made ! If only we had a Les Sealy !

I think les sealey now could do a better job

 

[Diogenes]

If Lampard drops him now it will be an admission that he was wrong to continue with him after previous howlers.

Not sure if Lampard is this stubborn but I don't think he and the coaching team are looking at this from the same angle as fans. I'm 90% sure he will play in our last two (or more) games of the season and 50% sure he will be here next season.

 

[DT-R]

Collins distribution is the only asset i see him have as a gk. He lacks aggression, anticipation, decision making, agility, positional awareness as well as communication. In fact he looks petrified unless its a pass back. He is completely shot and needs saving from himself, in my opinion it would be cruel to keep this idea up that he is a championship level keeper.

I don't doubt he cares and is probably a decent lad who works hard. I just don't think its enough to keep him in. I hope FL not answering about individuals is an indication that he is about to make changes to GK and who starts up front or even a system change for Luton.

Who goes in up front though? The only player left that's not injured is Bassette who is nowhere near ready/good enough. That's the only reason simms is back in regularly is because there's nobody else.

I remember a few months back I asked the question about Ryan Kent, just as a discussion, not because I thought he was the right player or the right fit, just he was a free agent so seeing others points of view on him. I was lambasted by a few who said we don't need any more attacking players, we were already top heavy and had too many options already...... well, look at us now

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[Offhegoes]

Wilson will be rusty, and we'd need to adapt our play as his kicking is poor and he's uncomfortable with the ball being played back to him. Still, I think he would of kept out at least one of those Plymouth goals yesterday. Big call to be made there.
Collins looked a decent keeper last season (Nov-Mar), but started leaking soft goals from Man U onwards.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I appreciate that Collins distribution is possibly better than Wilson’s.
However, the primary role of a goalkeeper is to stop the ball going in the net. Collins fails miserably on this primary role.
To keep picking him means we have to score 3 goals every game to get any points.

Indeed.

It's like picking a winger based primarily on his ability to help out the full back. Sure, it's something you'd like them to do, and if possible be good at, but if they can't run with a ball, cross or shoot then it's pointless.

 

[quinn1971]

Never thought after the start to the season we had when the midfield was non existent and we couldn’t hit a barn door that it’d be who‘s in the sticks that costs us, if I’m Wilson id be going mental at lampard , got dropped for a lot less than what Collins has done, 100% deserves another go

 

[DT-R]

The moral of the story is, Tyrese Campbell is a grade a c**t and I hope.he stubs his toe getting out of bed every day for the rest of his life!
With Dovin in, we hold out v Burnley, we at least have a chance of winning yesterday and we're 3 points clear of Brizzle in 5th place cruising to the play offs!

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[OldBedrocker]

IIRC (and I'm not a fan of his, although I'll support anybody playing for us), the ball for the 3rd goal was hit at him from a couple of yards away - he blocked it and the ball span away from him - not sure he had any opportunity to pluck it out of the air. The first shot came through a defender, so he was unsighted. I agree the second was annoying, in that hit went through his legs. Collins is far from what we need - particularly longer term, and it will be interesting see who FL selects for Luton.

Every time be blocks or parries a shot he pushes back in to the danger zone never left, right or over the bar. He catches nothing and gets beaten at his near post constantly.

 

[SkyBluePower]

If Lampard drops him now it will be an admission that he was wrong to continue with him after previous howlers.

Not sure if Lampard is this stubborn but I don't think he and the coaching team are looking at this from the same angle as fans. I'm 90% sure he will play in our last two (or more) games of the season and 50% sure he will be here next season.

I think you are right - if an outfield player is dropped the manager can hide behind Formation and Tactics but if a Goalkeeper is dropped, it means he is a liability. Feels like Lampard is trying to win together/lose together and hope for the best which sort of was working again with Collins until Monday. Robins was certainly less loyal/sentimental.

 

[no_loyalty]

I’m already having nightmares about Carlton Morris in a 50/50 challenge with Collins.

 

[baldy]

Who goes in up front though? The only player left that's not injured is Bassette who is nowhere near ready/good enough. That's the only reason simms is back in regularly is because there's nobody else.

I remember a few months back I asked the question about Ryan Kent, just as a discussion, not because I thought he was the right player or the right fit, just he was a free agent so seeing others points of view on him. I was lambasted by a few who said we don't need any more attacking players, we were already top heavy and had too many options already...... well, look at us now

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On that Cov Pod I listened to last night,it was rumoured that Norm has had a hissy fit about not playing as much apparently

 

[Warwickhunt]

Trouble with Collins is he is frightened of getting hurt! I have never seen him dive into the legs to claim the ball, he always drops down on one knee and turns his body away from the ball as if he is trying to keep his face away from the ball. Go through the games he has played and I kid you not 8 goals are in by his left hand post. It's all well him in training pulling off loads of instinctive saves making it look good . If FL put bodies around him in training he would surely see what have seen all season

 

[torchomatic]

On that Cov Pod I listened to last night,it was rumoured that Norm has had a hissy fit about not playing as much apparently

"Rumoured", 'apparently". Sums up the podcast nicely.

 

[rob9872]

Tbf if he has, I like it. He's young he's hungry, he wants more. Unfortunately he's not yet at the level where he should play more but hopefully that desire might mean one day he is.

 

[shepardo01]

"Rumoured", 'apparently". Sums up the podcast nicely.

Think he has form.
Sure I read when he joined - from an account related to his old club - that he did that there.

 

[robbiethemole]

Trouble with Collins is he is frightened of getting hurt! I have never seen him dive into the legs to claim the ball, he always drops down on one knee and turns his body away from the ball as if he is trying to keep his face away from the ball. Go through the games he has played and I kid you not 8 goals are in by his left hand post. It's all well him in training pulling off loads of instinctive saves making it look good . If FL put bodies around him in training he would surely see what have seen all season

The bloke doesn't even make 'bog-standard' saves FGS!!! He is not mentally strong, despite what Frank said, and lacks the physicality too.
If he isn't dropped for the good of the team, we're kissing goodbye to the play-offs.
His performance is being talked about, especially on the Luton board, and we all know what to expect from them fuggers on Saturday!!!!
I suppose Wilson is the alternative, but the prospect of a young, agile, confident Luke Bell is one I'm waiting to see.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Trouble with Collins is he is frightened of getting hurt! I have never seen him dive into the legs to claim the ball, he always drops down on one knee and turns his body away from the ball as if he is trying to keep his face away from the ball. Go through the games he has played and I kid you not 8 goals are in by his left hand post. It's all well him in training pulling off loads of instinctive saves making it look good . If FL put bodies around him in training he would surely see what have seen all season

It's the kind of thing you'd be researching as part of a scouting report. A keeper will likely be weaker diving to one side that the other, most likely the left or whichever is their weaker arm. If I were a striker it's definitely something I'd want to know.

So wouldn't surprise me if they are deliberately shooting there because they know it's an area he's very weak in.

 

[shepardo01]

His performance is being talked about, especially on the Luton board, and we all know what to expect from them fuggers on Saturday!!!!

Oh no. - is there a link!?
And on the Sunderland forum too apparently!?!

 

[Old Warwickshire lad]

It wasn’t just the goals. Look at the high ball he flapped at and missed, luckily he got an undeserved free kick which saved him.
Thats the norm with the guy,gutless and panic stricken every time he is confronted by the opposition.
We all said what would happen if he came in when Dovin was injured, unfortunately we have been proved right.
If the management thought they could build him up to be a man, even they must now see he is a lost cause.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Oh no. - is there a link!?
And on the Sunderland forum too apparently!?!

It’s Pompey away all over again. Where you just had to put Dovin back in. If you concede every shot on target you face, you won’t win many football games.

The same is probably gonna happen this weekend with Wilson. If not, he must’ve spent the whole time out of the team on the piss.

 

[DT-R]

Oh no. - is there a link!?
And on the Sunderland forum too apparently!?!

I blame @Saddlebrains

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[Sky Blue Harry H]

He may not be up to scratch, but calling a professional goalkeeper gutless is harsh imo. You don't play as a keeper at any reasonable standard, without having guts. Feels a bit too personal a slur for me.

 

[Grendel]

"Rumoured", 'apparently". Sums up the podcast nicely.

Lampard said that in an interview with Clive the other week

 

[ptr]

Think Martinez has borrowed his wrists tonight ffs