Championship thread 24/25! (43 Viewers)

[Ccfcisparks]

Rafinha and Thiago are pretty good.

 

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[David O'Day]

Pure ultra coached positionalism as per Pep's teams seems to be on it's way out. You can still win like if you have the best players in ther league but City don't at the moment.

Even Barca under Flick have moved away from this and added a lot more verticality to their player and quickened up the tempo a lot.

The current "hipster" football coaching philosophy is "Bilbaoball", tactics influenced by Bilbao's traditional play that ahs allowed a team who only sign players from the Basque country to be successful.

Iraola is one of the these coaches and it is much more directly, faster and more transitional.

 

[clint van damme]

Can't think of the last EPL team I'd go out of my way to watch.
Would fo so to watch Fergusons United or Wengers Aresenal
May be Spurs now, but only because they're a fucking circus.

 

[TomRad85]

Can't think of the last EPL team I'd go out of my way to watch.
Would fo so to watch Fergusons United or Wengers Aresenal
May be Spurs now, but only because they're a fucking circus.

Wengers invincibles is a very good shout, that was my favourite team to watch personally. Just thinking about Henry, Pires and Ljungberg is making my trousers twitch.

 

[Liquid Gold]

I think the issue with modern football is that the conditioning has made sure every single player is a pure athlete and left the mavericks to one side.

That along with the tactics having every player a midfielder to some degree means there is no space to do something brilliant or unexpected.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I think the issue with modern football is that the conditioning has made sure every single player is a pure athlete and left the mavericks to one side.

Yeah - would the likes of Stan Bowles ever have graced a football pitch at the top level today. Probably got booted out at academy level for 'attitude' 'discipline'.

 

[Tommo1993]

That era of Arsenal has it mathematically wrapped up by March in todays league. What a team.

 

[shmmeee]

I think the issue with modern football is that the conditioning has made sure every single player is a pure athlete and left the mavericks to one side.

That along with the tactics having every player a midfielder to some degree means there is no space to do something brilliant or unexpected.

You just have to look at the reaction to Hamer on here. Guy is probably the most entertaining player I’ve seen at City in twenty years and all anyone can talk about is how if he just cut his entire personality and spent all day worrying about protein intake he’d be 3% better. Yeah but he’d be dull as fuck.

 

[Gynnsthetonic]

Can't think of the last EPL team I'd go out of my way to watch.
Would fo so to watch Fergusons United or Wengers Aresenal
May be Spurs now, but only because they're a fucking circus.

Newcastle under Keegan would of been enjoyable. Some great flair players in that side. Gillespie, Ginola, Ferdinand, Asprilla spring to mind and numerous more

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I saw a thread the other day about overrated players back in the day and apparently looking back using various 'stats' the likes of Joe Cole and Jay-Jay Okocha were 'overrated'. Again i'm not going old man on this but if that's the conclusion you come to then sometimes its just good to put the stats in

Go back further. The Brazil side of the late 60s/early 70s and the Dutch ‘total football’ side of the 70s both played football that was entertaining and largely successful.

Pep sucked the fun out of it, but as I said it hopefully looks like outrageous concepts like going for goal more directly and at higher tempo are coming back in fashion.

 

[Liquid Gold]

Anyway, back to topic.

MOT come on super Leeds.

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

I wonder if a team went full crazy gang wimbeldon or John Becks Cambridge how they would do today, basically bang the ball upfront to at least one giant centre forward and sometimes two and put pressure on the opposition defence, I know a lot of centre backs just flop over like Lati and get lots of free kicks.

 

[SonofErnie]

MOT come on super Leeds.
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A 4-0 win for them would do nicely. Then it's over to Preston!

 

[Skyblueweeman]

If we win on Saturday, would we rather finish 5th or 6th?

 

[Terry Gibson's perm]

If we win on Saturday, would we rather finish 5th or 6th?

5th but at this point I will be happy with either.

 

[Macca1987]

We would have to beat 2 teams to go up, so just a play off place will do me, then it's anyones game

 

[Diogenes]

Possibly but I just feel like elite level football has less prestige these days - The El Classico was plastered everywhere in that era and was something you would go out your way to watch back then, I had no clue they were playing in the Copa Del Rey final the other day

Then again you could flip the coin and say that Liverpool and City a few years ago gave us some of the best title races we are ever likely to see

Maybe it is just down to what you prefer

I still ain't having that Mbappe is on the same level as prime Messi and Ronaldo though

Players like Messi or Ronaldo (OG and 2.0) excite you and make you want to watch a game you wouldn't normally care for.

I will never forget watching the Man U vs Real Madrid game around 2002/3 ish where OG Ronaldo scored a hat trick at Old Trafford. Completely bossed the game.

I wouldn't even bother opening the curtains if Mbappe was playing in my garden.

 

[Para1140]

Tonight ladies and gentleman.

we all Love Leeds scum, we all love Leeds scum, we all love Leeds scum

 

[no_loyalty]

Tonight ladies and gentleman.

we all Love Leeds scum, we all love Leeds scum, we all love Leeds scum

Minimum of 4-0 please Leeds.

 

[Nick]

Watching sky. They are fucking deluded and don't seem to realise the advantage of parachute payments teams.

 

[jackdg]

The good news is we only need a 3-0 Leeds win for any Goal Difference benefit. Last game would need us to draw and them to lose for us to be equal on points and by its definition they’d be at least an extra goal down on GD.

 

[jackdg]

Unless they somehow score 6 goals in those two defeats…

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Robins said this a lot over the last years he was here about football becoming more like Chess for managers. Sadly those moments of magic come at the expense of the managers control of the game.

Ultimately tho I do think it’ll switch back when new styles come over here (Relationism)

Are we going to have tactics decided by vibrating anal beads?

 

[Lamps]

Watching sky. They are fucking deluded and don't seem to realise the advantage of parachute payments teams.

Of course they do. But it's becoming a closed shop because of the money from Sky. They're not going to admit it.

Wouldn't surprise me that when the next contract decisions are being made that they cut down the spaces available for promotion to 2 or even just 1. Or maybe the champions go up and 2nd has a playoff with 19th in the Prem.

 

[Captain Dart]

Are we going to have tactics decided by vibrating anal beads?

Fucking hell the rules of chess have changed since I last played

 

[Grendel]

Of course they do. But it's becoming a closed shop because of the money from Sky. They're not going to admit it.

Wouldn't surprise me that when the next contract decisions are being made that they cut down the spaces available for promotion to 2 or even just 1. Or maybe the champions go up and 2nd has a playoff with 19th in the Prem.

They can’t do that. The PL wanted two down and always have - the concession to keep three is the parachute payments exist.

 

[Lamps]

They can’t do that. The PL wanted two down and always have - the concession to keep three is the parachute payments exist.

At this moment yes. But as I said any future negotiations could change this. There's nothing in place to stop them from changing anything. Just like there's now a push to promote another team from non league to League 2 with another club getting relegated.

 

[Captain Dart]

For one night onky, come on Leeds.