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[dongonzalos]

SUN STAR MAN ALEX NIMELY (Coventry). Tormentor and trier.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...of-Manchester-Uniteds-book.html#ixzz2HoS6m04C

Man of the match here.

Konchesky sent off because he could not handle him

The hosts finished with 10 men after defender Paul Konchesky was shown a red card for a foul on Alex Nimely
late on.


Manchester City striker Nimely, on loan at rock-bottom Coventry, scored a superb goal and created two others as he came back to haunt Boro boss Tony Mowbray.


Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4077679/.html#ixzz2HoSnJ8ud


Five minutes of added time gave both sides hope, but it was Coventry who were handed another opportunity when White brought down Nimely, who was cutting inside the box, and the hosts were awarded another penalty.

And it was from one such raid that Danny Pugh was adjudged to have brought dolwn Alex Nimely, and the hosts were awarded a penalty. One time United loan man Gary McSheffrey stepped up and placed the ball to Andy Lonergan's right to put the hosts ahead.

Two penalties there.


Man of the match here

Alex Nimely, was on a one man crusade to get City back in the game and he hit a stunning shot in the 62nd minute which Federici superbly pushed over.
Gary McSheffrey, who also gave it a good go in the second half, brought another fantastic save from the home keeper with a piledriver two minutes later.
Nimely got in two more shots before the under-fire Andy Thorn sent on Carl Baker for Gary Deegan.
In the 76th minute, Nimely attacked again and had a shot blocked for a corner. Eight minutes later, the loanee from Manchester City was involved again and this time, it was only through Jem Karacan clearing off the line that City did not pull the goal back they deserved.



To be honest I have stopped looking now.

It seems if he played he had an impact.

If he was brought in purely to stick the ball in the net it failed.

He if was brought in to create chances wreak havoc, win penalties and get people sent off. It worked

 

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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Maybe I'm blinded by him pretty much single handedly winning the games against Middlesbrough an Leeds for us, tbf his best games were early on but I think he has good ability

I'm pretty sure he was carrying/managing an injury for a lot of his time here anyway

 

[dongonzalos]

Maybe I'm blinded by him pretty much single handedly winning the games against Middlesbrough an Leeds for us, tbf his best games were early on but I think he has good ability

I'm pretty sure he was carrying/managing an injury for a lot of his time here anyway

He was including key games at the end when people said we gave up. Him and about two others.

Hence we had no depth in the squad

 

[Grendel]

He was including key games at the end when people said we gave up. Him and about two others.

Hence we had no depth in the squad

The only 2 games he did well were Boro and Leeds. Also remember at the time he was signed as a goal scorer - he is not ever a goal scorer. As for raw talent how old is he?

 

[dongonzalos]

The only 2 games he did well were Boro and Leeds. Also remember at the time he was signed as a goal scorer - he is not ever a goal scorer. As for raw talent how old is he?

I take it the sun giving him man of the match against Barnsley saying he was a tormentor, they were wrong?

I am sure if I could be arsed to keep researching until he got injured he was getting praise all the time.

 

[CJparker]

AT said he wanted to sign either Rob Hulse or Macello Trotta, but those signings didn't work out in January

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I take it the sun giving him man of the match against Barnsley saying he was a tormentor, they were wrong?

I am sure if I could be arsed to keep researching until he got injured he was getting praise all the time.

He's a striker, so what's the primary aim of a striker?

I wouldn't say it was a 'disastrous' loan, because he was decent, but his output was small and he is, very overrated by a fair few fans.

 

[dongonzalos]

He's a striker, so what's the primary aim of a striker?

I wouldn't say it was a 'disastrous' loan, because he was decent, but his output was small and he is, very overrated by a fair few fans.

You do sign different attacking players for different reasons.

I am sure the club hoped he would score a few more goals. However he may have been the best available option to us at the time.
We were only allowed loanees.
He definitely contributed in a lot of other ways than just his goal out put.

Him and Norwood were behind most the good things that happened from the point they signed.

However once he got injured and was forced to play with a knock as was Platt they were so much less effective.

 

[wingy]

You do sign different attacking players for different reasons.

I am sure the club hoped he would score a few more goals. However he may have been the best available option to us at the time.
We were only allowed loanees.
He definitely contributed in a lot of other ways than just his goal out put.

Him and Norwood were behind most the good things that happened from the point they signed.

However once he got injured and was forced to play with a knock as was Platt they were so much less effective.

Might have worked out for him if we had the current manager in terms of developing /bringing him on,he's just gone on loan to Crystal Palace I believe.Its also harsh to rubbish him when the team he was playing in ,consisted of a squad of 25, 4-5 who were extremely young /untried like himself and at least that many showing the fatigue/carrying knocks that accompany such a battle as ours last season.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

You do sign different attacking players for different reasons.

I am sure the club hoped he would score a few more goals. However he may have been the best available option to us at the time.
We were only allowed loanees.
He definitely contributed in a lot of other ways than just his goal out put.

Him and Norwood were behind most the good things that happened from the point they signed.

However once he got injured and was forced to play with a knock as was Platt they were so much less effective.

Platt was never effective...

If Nimely was injured, why did he persist with him? Why not bring Cody in? He had a much better goal scoring record.

I regarded him as a decent player, but his goal scoring record spoke for himself. If you're in a relegation battle, you need goals, so I don't know why Thorn continued playing a partnership that yielded 1 goal every 10 games! It's pathetic and rather stupid to be blunt.

 

[dongonzalos]

Might have worked out for him if we had the current manager in terms of developing /bringing him on,he's just gone on loan to Crystal Palace I believe.Its also harsh to rubbish him when the team he was playing in ,consisted of a squad of 25, 4-5 who were extremely young /untried like himself and at least that many showing the fatigue/carrying knocks that accompany such a battle as ours last season.

I know a team 2 points off automatic promotion place from the championship.

Ian holloway as manager.

The boy has undoubted talent.

 

[dongonzalos]

Platt was never effective...

If Nimely was injured, why did he persist with him? Why not bring Cody in? He had a much better goal scoring record.

I regarded him as a decent player, but his goal scoring record spoke for himself. If you're in a relegation battle, you need goals, so I don't know why Thorn continued playing a partnership that yielded 1 goal every 10 games! It's pathetic and rather stupid to be blunt.

With Platt I hate big lumps that encourage a team to take the easy option.
So I was not impressed when we signed him.
Despite when he was played carrying a back injury even I was win over by him.
So he can't be that ineffective

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

With Platt I hate big lumps that encourage a team to take the easy option.
So I was not impressed when we signed him.
Despite when he was played carrying a back injury even I was win over by him.
So he can't be that ineffective

His goal scoring, and assists were bad efforts.

He could barely do his job in holding the ball up or even win aerial challenges, with him, it was like playing with 10 men at times, I think it says it all when he's only got 3 goals & assists in 21 appearances in L2! Only an idiot wouldve started him! Very much reminds me of Wright under Coleman.

 

[ashbyjan]

Why did we sign Nimley? Was it because Thorn took the idiotic decision to sell Jutkiewicz our top scorer? A player who despite being sold in January still finished joint top scorer. Nimley was never going adequately replace Juke - different type of player and after a bright start faded under the pressure and as other teams found him out. Damn Thorn for demanding we sell Juke.

 

[Grendel]

Why did we sign Nimley? Was it because Thorn took the idiotic decision to sell Jutkiewicz our top scorer? A player who despite being sold in January still finished joint top scorer. Nimley was never going adequately replace Juke - different type of player and after a bright start faded under the pressure and as other teams found him out. Damn Thorn for demanding we sell Juke.

How many games did we win when Juke was playing?

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Why did we sign Nimley? Was it because Thorn took the idiotic decision to sell Jutkiewicz our top scorer? A player who despite being sold in January still finished joint top scorer. Nimley was never going adequately replace Juke - different type of player and after a bright start faded under the pressure and as other teams found him out. Damn Thorn for demanding we sell Juke.

Is this another dig at SISU or are you actually blaming Thorn.

 

[ashbyjan]

So you support Thorns decision? Please make your mind up as to his ability.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

So you support Thorns decision? Please make your mind up as to his ability.

I'm still torn over the decision to sell Juke. I was pretty resigned that we were going to get relegated whether Juke stayed or left, when he left, there was no chance, unless tis Nimely was going to bang them in (unlikely) or Cody or Platt step up (even more unlikely!)

Had we of kept Juke and got relegated, I think we would've had to sell anyway and that would probably be less than what we actually got him so it's a case of how much money we were going to get for him. So I haven't made my mind up about it.

 

[Grendel]

So you support Thorns decision? Please make your mind up as to his ability.

When we sold our top scorer I believe we had won 4 games and 2 of those were his final 2 appearances. He also prior to his departure spent upwards of £0.5 million on an unfit flop. After selling Juke he signed nimeley and specifically said he was confident he would score goals.

Also it's interesting that a common theme was he had to play youth players. He insisted on playing Christie in the early stage of his career when he had other options and interestingly froze bigiamara out of the squad having previously played him out of position when he was minimally effective.

This season Daniels started the campaign even when they were plenty of other options

But your right it's all sisu's fault.

The irony is if they had committed any extra budget lady year almost certainly he would have been sacked early November and we may still be where we were.

 

[ashbyjan]

Where did I say it was SISU's fault? I didnt't mention SISU - You're even starting to read things that aren't there to suit your own blinkered beliefs. If it comes to Thorn (quite how a thread that started off as one comparing Jimmy Hill to MR has again ended up with Thorn yet again is sad and boring) I believe he was a poor manager, basically out of his depth. In my opinion (just to be clear "in my opinion" not that of the Trust) he was not helped by the departures during the previous summer but he could possibly had done better with what was left and I was disappointed he never managed to instill a more crazy gang siege mentality into the squad - a lack of fight was evident throughout the season. We will never know if a different manager could have got more out of that squad but any speculation is down to personal opinion.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Why did we sign Nimley? Was it because Thorn took the idiotic decision to sell Jutkiewicz our top scorer? A player who despite being sold in January still finished joint top scorer. Nimley was never going adequately replace Juke - different type of player and after a bright start faded under the pressure and as other teams found him out. Damn Thorn for demanding we sell Juke.

The club was bottom of the table and eight points from safety at the time of the sale. It is (continuing) madness to think that his sale was in any way significant to the club's fate. If anything, selling a player before their value/contract started to plummet was one of the few smart decisions the club made.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Where did I say it was SISU's fault? I didnt't mention SISU - You're even starting to read things that aren't there to suit your own blinkered beliefs. If it comes to Thorn (quite how a thread that started off as one comparing Jimmy Hill to MR has again ended up with Thorn yet again is sad and boring) I believe he was a poor manager, basically out of his depth. In my opinion (just to be clear "in my opinion" not that of the Trust) he was not helped by the departures during the previous summer but he could possibly had done better with what was left and I was disappointed he never managed to instill a more crazy gang siege mentality into the squad - a lack of fight was evident throughout the season. We will never know if a different manager could have got more out of that squad but any speculation is down to personal opinion.

The tone sounded quite sarcastic if I'm honest. Sounded like you weren't actually blaming Thornbut rather some else, wo would that be then if that was the case? Not the fans...

The thread changed direction because CJ thought he'd steal the show saying Thorn should have been given more time, even the the writing was on the wall, even making stupid comments that if he had taken us to L2 he should be kept on etc. etc.

I would agree, I think a more able manager could've kept us up, after all, we dropped so many points from winning positions, many coming in the last 10-15m and when we had chances to get out of the relegation zone, we didn't perform, whatever way you look at it, the ownership cannot be blamed in this way. Look at this season, which makes CJ's argument completely flawed, we're just in the top half after AT's and Shaw's short regimes were brought to a end, and that's after clear improvement of the team, the board definitely got the decision to sack Thorn right, and although some said we took too long, Shaw should've done better and should've picked up a couple of points at least, we got the right man in charge but the damage from the old regime was done and the problems took long to over turn, taking this into account, to say AT should've been given more time is laughable, naive and plain stupid.

In all honesty, getting relegated may well do CCFC a big, big favour, we have new foundations and we are ready to rise again. MR era will be revolutionary.