Would you want to play for CCFC when the club can't even keep the manager? (5 Viewers)

OyJimmy

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Sisu have lost the manager, got us relegated, can't pay the bills and still they remain? How can they inspire the players to get us out of this mess given these circumstances. They have no credibility anymore.
 

Grendel

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Sisu have lost the manager, got us relegated, can't pay the bills and still they remain? How can they inspire the players to get us out of this mess given these circumstances. They have no credibility anymore.

I think it is you who has no credibility by posting this inane drivel.
 

kg82

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Sorry, how have they lost the manager? Robins obviously wanted to go and forced the move. You can hate them for the other things, but losing Robins is not their fault. That is purely on the shoulders of the man himself.
 

Grendel

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kg82

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The man who tripled his wages to walk out on a 3 year contract, who knew the deal when he joined the club, who has been vilified by the majority of Coventry fans has made claims he left because of the uncertain future of the club!! Ohhh
 

Colonel Mustard

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Sisu have lost the manager, got us relegated, can't pay the bills and still they remain? How can they inspire the players to get us out of this mess given these circumstances. They have no credibility anymore.

If Robins had been sacked, you'd have put the boot in. Robins breaks his commitment to the club to walk to a better-paid job, and you still put the boot in. It is clear by now that there are no negative circumstances for which you will not blame SISU - and you say they have lost credibility?
 

covhead1

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I fail to see how you reach that conclusion.

Robins appears to blame the council

and i quote

"I absolutely wish them all the best, they work their socks off and as I've said before that club needs support from Coventry City Council.
"That led to a decision to want to speak with Huddersfield and that's how the decision has been arrived at."
 

Sky Blues

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Robins appears to blame the council

and i quote

"I absolutely wish them all the best, they work their socks off and as I've said before that club needs support from Coventry City Council.
"That led to a decision to want to speak with Huddersfield and that's how the decision has been arrived at."

He also said he sought assurances from the owner but didn't get them.
 

torchomatic

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Sadly, I agree. A team has never lost their manager before. The players must be full of grief tonight.

Sisu have lost the manager, got us relegated, can't pay the bills and still they remain? How can they inspire the players to get us out of this mess given these circumstances. They have no credibility anymore.
 

theferret

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Sisu have lost the manager, got us relegated, can't pay the bills and still they remain? How can they inspire the players to get us out of this mess given these circumstances. They have no credibility anymore.

And still they remain? You say that like there is an alternative. Well, actually there is, liquidation. Some people should be careful what they wish for.

As for players, I suspect most of them are currently sat on their sofa playing Halo 4 and eating fried chicken from a bucket. Like they give a shit.
 

coundonskyblue

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And still they remain? You say that like there is an alternative. Well, actually there is, liquidation. Some people should be careful what they wish for.

As for players, I suspect most of them are currently sat on their sofa playing Halo 4 and eating fried chicken from a bucket. Like they give a shit.

If TF carries out his promise there will be no football team in Coventry within 3 years. How could liquidation produce an outcome worse than that?
 

torchomatic

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That made me laugh. Cyrus Christie tweets that most nights.

As for players, I suspect most of them are currently sat on their sofa playing Halo 4 and eating fried chicken from a bucket. Like they give a shit.
 

theferret

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If TF carries out his promise there will be no football team in Coventry within 3 years. How could liquidation produce an outcome worse than that?

Uh? Liquidation and no football team are the same thing. Liquidation is the end of the club. Saying you want 'SISU OUT' makes no sense. I want a buyer for the club, but that is much more likely to happen if we have a club that is not losing money hand over fist and is sustainable. Reducing the ridiculous rent is part of that process - it would make the club more attractive to a buyer (as would owning a stake in the stadium, but weirdly the SISU OUT brigade are against that idea too). Strange mentality some people have.
 

coundonskyblue

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Uh? Liquidation and no football team are the same thing. Liquidation is the end of the club. Saying you want 'SISU OUT' makes no sense. I want a buyer for the club, but that is much more likely to happen if we have a club that is not losing money hand over fist and is sustainable. Reducing the ridiculous rent is part of that process - it would make the club more attractive to a buyer (as would owning a stake in the stadium, but weirdly the SISU OUT brigade are against that idea too). Strange mentality some people have.

Ok, so explain to me how much profit would CCFC have made this year if they owned the Ricoh?
 

Moff

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And still they remain? You say that like there is an alternative. Well, actually there is, liquidation. Some people should be careful what they wish for.

As for players, I suspect most of them are currently sat on their sofa playing Halo 4 and eating fried chicken from a bucket. Like they give a shit.

Ferret that is one of the funniest, and most accurate posts I have read in a long time!
 

theferret

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Ok, so explain to me how much profit would CCFC have made this year if they owned the Ricoh?

What has profit got to do with it? We're talking about making the club a viable proposition for someone to come in and buy. What assets do we have? Ownership, or part ownership of the stadium, would make us a much more attractive proposition as a long term investment. Having increased revenue streams and turnover also provides more working capital and flexibility in terms of financing. Profit is largely irrelevant, what is important is that the business is stable and sustainable. I run a business and it does OK, but at the end of the year the profit is essentially zero. There is no point making a profit for the sake of it as you only pay tax on it anyway, and you might as well reinvest it in the business.
 

Warwickhunt

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The players have got to stand up and be counted and help Carsley. They need to put the problems to one side and play their hearts out
 

Sky Blues

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What has profit got to do with it? We're talking about making the club a viable proposition for someone to come in and buy. What assets do we have? Ownership, or part ownership of the stadium, would make us a much more attractive proposition as a long term investment. Having increased revenue streams and turnover also provides more working capital and flexibility in terms of financing. Profit is largely irrelevant, what is important is that the business is stable and sustainable. I run a business and it does OK, but at the end of the year the profit is essentially zero. There is no point making a profit for the sake of it as you only pay tax on it anyway, and you might as well reinvest it in the business.

You are assuming that Sisu would unite the club with the stadium were they to get their hands on it.
 

coundonskyblue

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What has profit got to do with it? We're talking about making the club a viable proposition for someone to come in and buy. What assets do we have? Ownership, or part ownership of the stadium, would make us a much more attractive proposition as a long term investment. Having increased revenue streams and turnover also provides more working capital and flexibility in terms of financing. Profit is largely irrelevant, what is important is that the business is stable and sustainable. I run a business and it does OK, but at the end of the year the profit is essentially zero. There is no point making a profit for the sake of it as you only pay tax on it anyway, and you might as well reinvest it in the business.

Ok perhaps I didnt put it right. My point was the stadium situation accounts for at most 25% of CCFC losses. Maybe when Sisu show some success in tackling at least part of the other losses then we will get somewhere.

What I was trying to get across was that if ACL was suddenly gifted to CCFC that the club would still be in financial trouble.
 

theferret

Well-Known Member
Ok perhaps I didnt put it right. My point was the stadium situation accounts for at most 25% of CCFC losses. Maybe when Sisu show some success in tackling at least part of the other losses then we will get somewhere.

What I was trying to get across was that if ACL was suddenly gifted to CCFC that the club would still be in financial trouble.

I am sure if SISU were to acquire a stake they would have to part with a considerable sum of cash first. And you're right, it wouldn't solve all the financial problems, but it would help and would give the club more leverage, and crucially it would make a takeover more likely and isn't that what we all want? Sadly, ownership of the Ricoh is not on the agenda any more, gone way past that it seems. Not really sure where we go from here.
 

coundonskyblue

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I am sure if SISU were to acquire a stake they would have to part with a considerable sum of cash first. And you're right, it wouldn't solve all the financial problems, but it would help and would give the club more leverage, and crucially it would make a takeover more likely and isn't that what we all want? Sadly, ownership of the Ricoh is not on the agenda any more, gone way past that it seems. Not really sure where we go from here.

Thats the thing though isn't it?

If they had shown competence in reducing losses elsewhere in the club then the Council & Higgs trust would have been much more likely to sell them a stake in the ground.
 

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