Ratings - and I'm not happy! (6 Viewers)

Grendel

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Murphy - 7 exposed by dire defenders
Christie - 7 looked better going forward than baker
Edje - 4 one season only please
Cameron - 4 career going backwards
Jenkinson - 5 a poor mans julien dicks
Jennings - 6 dire first half but did pull it round in the second
Bailey - 4 worst performance I've seen from him
Clarke - 5 on his own against the back 4 and looked frustrated
Baker - 4 awful
Elliot - 4 other than back into players and run around a lot what does he do
Mcdheffrey - 5 did well for 15 minutes then just disappeared.

Moussa - 6 not in game much
Wilson - 6 same as above
Fleck - 4 why bother?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Murphy - 7 exposed by dire defenders
Christie - 7 looked better going forward than baker
Edje - 4 one season only please
Cameron - 4 career going backwards
Jenkinson - 5 a poor mans julien dicks
Jennings - 6 dire first half but did pull it round in the second
Bailey - 4 worst performance I've seen from him
Clarke - 5 on his own against the back 4 and looked frustrated
Baker - 4 awful
Elliot - 4 other than back into players and run around a lot what does he do
Mcdheffrey - 5 did well for 15 minutes then just disappeared.

Moussa - 6 not in game much
Wilson - 6 same as above
Fleck - 4 why bother?

It's DICKINSON. That's three of you now..
 

rob9872

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Missed wood more than anything imo, only real leader. Bit harsh on clarke I think, hevdid his job we know what we getvwith him and he didntvsurprise or let us down. Never will be a 90 mijutevworkhorse and I think we expect too kuch - some ofvthe abuse he got near me was very unwarranted.
 

rob9872

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Oh an btw I like jenkinson :)
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Murphy-7
Christie-7 (8 for his runs, 4 for his crosses, 8 for his hoofed assist)
Dickinson-6
Cameron-6
Edge-5
Jennings-7
Bailey-4
Baker-6
Sheff-6
Elliott-5
Clarke-7
 

NottsCov

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Missed wood more than anything imo, only real leader. Bit harsh on clarke I think, hevdid his job we know what we getvwith him and he didntvsurprise or let us down. Never will be a 90 mijutevworkhorse and I think we expect too kuch - some ofvthe abuse he got near me was very unwarranted.

Someone get this guy a coffee!
 

Grendel

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Missed wood more than anything imo, only real leader. Bit harsh on clarke I think, hevdid his job we know what we getvwith him and he didntvsurprise or let us down. Never will be a 90 mijutevworkhorse and I think we expect too kuch - some ofvthe abuse he got near me was very unwarranted.

I'm a Clarke fan and as I say I think he was a victim of lack of support more than anything else.
 

speedie87

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Murphy 7 one great save first half and one good tackle save second
Christie 6 good work for first goal but lacks quality in defence and attack
Dickinson 6 better first half than second
Edge 5 lightweight
Cameron 4 embarrassing
Baker 6 far to lightweight and wasteful with pointless little flick passes
Macca6 started ok and got worse
Bailey 5 can't play in a 2 man centre missed a great chance
Jennings 6 rubbish first half better second
Elliot 5 one good shot
Clark 7

Carsley 3 was back to the days of thorn leaving a sub until they scored
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Nonsense from so called supporters who can't tell the difference between a performance and the result

The performance was crap, the result about the same!
 

Grendel

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Nonleagueherewecome

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Look, me and Grendel are on the same page for once, therefore we were crap, OK?!?
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Murphy 7 - great save and played well, distribution was good, definitely an unsung hero.
Christie 7 - defended well, got forward well, needs to work on crosses.
Cameron 6 - solid, should've scored.
Edj 5 - drifted too far and nearly cost us, he was pretty poor.
Dickinson 4 - can't play football gave it away far too often, 'no nonsense' is a way to say 'can't play football'.
Baker 6 (just) - had his moments, but wasn't great.
Jennings 5 - didn't deserve to start today and hardly vindicated LC's decision to pick him.
Bailey 5 - same as Jennings, played poorly.
McSheff 5 - poor but for 15m at the start.
Elliott 4 - as usual, worked hard, but gave the ball away pretty much every time he got the ball, hit the post but he was poor, HOW is he keeping out a midfielder!?
Clarke 7 - quality goal, but midfield didn't give him the service

Subs
Fleck 5 - not a winger, did 1 good cross, a poor cross and a desperate shot that was plain embarrassing!
Moussa 6 - overall played alright.
Wilson 5 - should've scored but bringing him on was a waste of a sub.

Formation 3 - got dominated in midfield and it is CLEAR that 4-4-2 doesn't work for CCFC, and certainly puts to bed the myth that we 'need' to play 2 upfront, home OR away.

Carsley 3 - selection was naive and was very reactionary.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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451 wouldn't have won us that game.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Callum Willson was slightly unlucky not to score twice in the match. I thought in the second half Wilson did more attacking than Clarke

He should of scored, but showed a lot of appetite, pace and strength. He's a handy impact sub at the moment, offers more than ROD did or Ball does. If Leon actually jumped like this lad did, he'd win a lot more in the air.
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Mucca Mad Boys

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451 wouldn't have won us that game.

So when we lose playing 4-5-1, we 'need' to play 4-4-2, but whenever we lose playing 4-4-2, it's we wouldn't have lost... Behave.

I think it would've, we got dominated in midfield v their 3, and to have Elliott ahead of Moussa is a crime. Also, we couldn't play through Crewe, no one available in the middle, we tried to score by crossing it in, but, Elliott nor Clarke are particularly strong in the air to score crossed goals.

My mate who doesn't support Cov who actually challenges me when I rant about 4-4-2, complimented by another friend who supports Everton, again, who think they should play 4-4-2, said we can't play 4-4-2, a neutral who has only watched CCFC a handful of times, that says something!
 

Sky Blue Kid

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Last 3 games 4-4-2...won 2, winning then drawing 3rd game till Carsley brought off Elliott, left Clarke up on his own, and flooded the midfield...LOST.:(
Now tell me 4-4-2 doesn't work!...Cue SBTaylor!;)
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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So when we lose playing 4-5-1, we 'need' to play 4-4-2, but whenever we lose playing 4-4-2, it's we wouldn't have lost... Behave.

I think it would've, we got dominated in midfield v their 3, and to have Elliott ahead of Moussa is a crime. Also, we couldn't play through Crewe, no one available in the middle, we tried to score by crossing it in, but, Elliott nor Clarke are particularly strong in the air to score crossed goals.

My mate who doesn't support Cov who actually challenges me when I rant about 4-4-2, complimented by another friend who supports Everton, again, who think they should play 4-4-2, said we can't play 4-4-2, a neutral who has only watched CCFC a handful of times, that says something!

You behave. In what way would 451 have made Cyrus's crosses better, transform Edge and Cameron into capable CB's, make Bailey a player capable of passing to Sky Blue? If we win with 442 you keep quiet about 451, dontchya?
 

Nonleagueherewecome

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Last 3 games 4-4-2...won 2, winning then drawing 3rd game till Carsley brought off Elliott, left Clarke up on his own, and flooded the midfield...LOST.:(
Now tell me 4-4-2 doesn't work!...Cue SBTaylor!;)

Sky Blue Kid hits the bullseye. Need a smoking gun barrel emoticon...
 

Waldorf

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Players win matches. Formations help if they suit the players. But players win matches. Today's loss had nothing to do with formations, but from too many players regressing to their Shaw/Thorne days. No movement, no stretching the opposition, too many balls lumped up to Clarke, and far too many players having a mare. Baker, McSheffrey, Dickinson, Christie all poor. Jennings the best of a bad bunch, but Bauley non-existent. Moussa ran into cul-de-sacs. Elliott and Clarke ran pressurised their centre backs but had no support in the box.
Quite what the subs were all about, I don't know: start 4-4-2, go to 4-5-1, then back to 4-4-2 within minutes!
 

Jackoskyblue

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Murphy - 8
Christie - 7
Edge - 5
Cameron - 5
Dickinson - 7
Baker - 4
Jennings - 5
Bailey - 5
Mcsheffery - 4
Elliot - 5
Clarke - 6

Wilson - 6
Fleck - -700
Moussa - 6
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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You behave. In what way would 451 have made Cyrus's crosses better, transform Edge and Cameron into capable CB's, make Bailey a player capable of passing to Sky Blue? If we win with 442 you keep quiet about 451, dontchya?

I've actually criticised 4-4-2, even when winning...

If we had 2 good strikers to play, I wouldn't mind that much - thing is, we don't.

We play better playing 4-5-1, fact, win more, score more, concede the same, all facts, end of discussion.
 

Grendel

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I've actually criticised 4-4-2, even when winning...

If we had 2 good strikers to play, I wouldn't mind that much - thing is, we don't.

We play better playing 4-5-1, fact, win more, score more, concede the same, all facts, end of discussion.

It's not the end of discussion. Bottom line is the goals we conceded today had zero to do with formation. The midfielders were all poor and if you seriously think playing moussa or fleck from the start would change anything you are deluded. Today we had 2 centre halved that even Hartlepool or bury would say thanks but no thanks if we offered them.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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It's not the end of discussion. Bottom line is the goals we conceded today had zero to do with formation. The midfielders were all poor and if you seriously think playing moussa or fleck from the start would change anything you are deluded. Today we had 2 centre halved that even Hartlepool or bury would say thanks but no thanks if we offered them.

Cameron wasn't too bad, it's Edj who's the problem.

That didn't seem to matter when we played 4-5-1 did it!? Moussa is actually good, Elliott isn't. It's the ideology you buy into with formation.

When we did well in November and December, why didn't we play 4-4-2 and start Elliott instead of Moussa? :thinking about:

Your argument is untenable.
 

stupot07

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Murphy - 8
Christie - 6
Edge - 4
Cameron - 4
Dickinson - 5
Baker - 4
Jennings - 5
Bailey - 5
Mcsheffery - 5
Elliot - 5
Clarke - 7

Wilson - 6
Fleck - 4
Moussa - 6
 

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