Conor Thomas (2 Viewers)
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SkyBlueMania
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Absolutely fantastic news! For us it means we (hopefully) get to keep a brilliant prospect for the future. For him it means first team football before he reaches 21!
Monkeyface
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Good news, poor lad didn't want to go in the first place. Don't think it's been a nice few months for him up there.
Hopefully we can get to see what all the fuss is now.
Hopefully we can get to see what all the fuss is now.
bamalamafizzfazz
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This is a shame for Thomas. It was a good opportunity and shows how cut throat the world of top level academy football is. Now this opens a few cans of worms. Let's start with the negatives, he was signing for Liverpool this summer for £1mill plus add ons, surely the board were relying on this money to assist with the current financial difficulties and without this money could pose more trouble. This could mean that the funds are no longer available for players' wage increases and bonuses etc. It could also mean less money for AT to spend if there was any at all. On a positive note we have a talented youngster who has been learning his trade in one of the best academies in the world and progressed to the reserves playing alongside players such as Shelvey, Ngog and under wing of Gerrard etc. If Gunnar was to leave in the summer there could be a ready made replacement ready to step up to the plate.
I wish the best of luck in his recovery and have high hopes that he will come in and have a go at doing a job for the Sky Blues next season
I wish the best of luck in his recovery and have high hopes that he will come in and have a go at doing a job for the Sky Blues next season
rob9872
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Interesting quote from the Telegraph:
"If Liverpool want to take up their option to sign the lad it is understood that it would cost them £1.5 in total, but there is rumoured to be a very large agent’s fee involved that would eat into what City would receive, and that is understood to have been the main reason for the board room rift"
"If Liverpool want to take up their option to sign the lad it is understood that it would cost them £1.5 in total, but there is rumoured to be a very large agent’s fee involved that would eat into what City would receive, and that is understood to have been the main reason for the board room rift"
kg82
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On the plus side of those negatives - a million quid isn't going to go very far anyway and his wages are minimal so i can't see it being too much of problem on the budget.
It's a damn shame for him. Monkeyface, how come you said he hasn't enjoyed it up there? I thought he had.
It's a damn shame for him. Monkeyface, how come you said he hasn't enjoyed it up there? I thought he had.
Marty
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Surely agent fees are either paid by the player or the buying club, not the selling club :thinking about:
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
If the part about agents fees is correct it makes his loan to Liverpool even more incomprehensible...... They did all that for a net gain of £250k less agents fees, knowing that any sale would net nothing like his worth after agents costs....then a couple of weeks later put in millions to keep afloat. Doesnt fill you with confidence about the financial management skills does it !
Feel sorry for the lad if this big opportunity falls through and I wish Thomas every success in his career. I hope a big chunk of that can be with CCFC. Might turn out to be good news for CCFC and next season
Feel sorry for the lad if this big opportunity falls through and I wish Thomas every success in his career. I hope a big chunk of that can be with CCFC. Might turn out to be good news for CCFC and next season
Marty
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I don't get it, if the deal is £1.5 million then we should receive the full £1.5 million with liverpool paying on top to the players agent, if the deal was £1.5 million and we receive £1.3 million as 200k has been paid to the agent, then haven't we paid the agent his fees
according to the Telegraph, he has struggled to settle up there. They also think Liverpool feel he isn't quite what they are looking for at this time.
I think it is fantastic news, a good midfielder coming back , like a new signing. He is only 19 so has plenty of time to prove his worth, he is already an under 19 international.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
bottom line is that the part about agents fee is a rumour ..... no one knows the truth ...... just more juicing up of reports by the CT
Similarly we were apparently 2 days from administration .......... how do they know? answer is they dont and it is yet more shoddy reporting by the CT
He apparently struggled to settle...... not what a Liverpool news report said a couple weeks back.... said he loved it there..... bound to miss home but think CT reporter adding to the report to juice up the story
Frankly do not believe anything I read in that rag regarding CCFC !
Similarly we were apparently 2 days from administration .......... how do they know? answer is they dont and it is yet more shoddy reporting by the CT
He apparently struggled to settle...... not what a Liverpool news report said a couple weeks back.... said he loved it there..... bound to miss home but think CT reporter adding to the report to juice up the story
Frankly do not believe anything I read in that rag regarding CCFC !
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covcity4life
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im happy personnaly, hes supposed to be a brilliant one touch player and could fit in this team well alongside clingan in the middle
also as someone above mentioned 1m wouldnt go that far in keeping us afloat if we really are in that much trouble and his wages will be lower than most
also if hes as good as liverpool initially thought he could help cov big in short term and long term in terms of a future transfer fee once hes more established
sign up gunnar, and then with clingan,thomas,carsley and deegan we have 4 v good middle man players(reserving judgement on deegan still) maybe we can let one go,but id like to keep gunnar if possible
p.s 250k for a 4 month loan? bargain lol
also as someone above mentioned 1m wouldnt go that far in keeping us afloat if we really are in that much trouble and his wages will be lower than most
also if hes as good as liverpool initially thought he could help cov big in short term and long term in terms of a future transfer fee once hes more established
sign up gunnar, and then with clingan,thomas,carsley and deegan we have 4 v good middle man players(reserving judgement on deegan still) maybe we can let one go,but id like to keep gunnar if possible
p.s 250k for a 4 month loan? bargain lol
Monkeyface
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kg, from what I have been told, he is a young lad who is very close to his family and has just missed them. Apparently he has also told Liverpool he won't be signing for them, and AT and the chairman want him back here, so they can't be to worried about the finacial implications.
I think sometimes we underestimate the strain moving so far from their family it is for a young lad.
I think sometimes we underestimate the strain moving so far from their family it is for a young lad.
sky_blue_up_north
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Great News will be an asset to us, plenty of time to improve, still only 17 I think
TheRoyalScam
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Just for you, Jimthor, here's the website article:
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CONOR Thomas is making a dramatic return to Coventry City.
The precocious midfielder – who was controversially loaned out to Liverpool for a quick-fix £250,000 fee in January with a view to a £1.5 million permanent move this summer – has picked up an injury in training with the Reds and is set to return to the Sky Blues for treatment.
And the Telegraph understands that the 17-year-old talent will be staying at his home-town club. He has apparently failed to settle at Anfield and is not necessarily what Liverpool are looking for at the moment despite having earned his first cap for England Under-18s against Italy while he has been training and playing in their reserves.
City boss Andy Thorn insists the club’s Academy graduate will receive a warm welcome home at the Ricoh Arena, saying: “I spoke to Conor yesterday because he has got a hamstring injury which he did in training so I will be speaking to Liverpool to find out what’s happening.
“But if they don’t take him, then we will welcome the boy back with open arms because he’s one of ours and we’ll have him back around the fray, and I think the way we are playing will suit him as well.
“It has been a great experience for him going to Liverpool because he will have seen their standards and what other clubs do.”
Thomas, who is regarded as one of the hottest prospects to come from the Academy for years, stunned fans when he was snapped up by Liverpool on transfer deadline day, just two days after making his full senior debut for the Sky Blues in the 3-2 FA Cup fourth round defeat at Birmingham.
Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...o-coventry-city-92746-28631265/#ixzz1LNu0shUd
The precocious midfielder – who was controversially loaned out to Liverpool for a quick-fix £250,000 fee in January with a view to a £1.5 million permanent move this summer – has picked up an injury in training with the Reds and is set to return to the Sky Blues for treatment.
And the Telegraph understands that the 17-year-old talent will be staying at his home-town club. He has apparently failed to settle at Anfield and is not necessarily what Liverpool are looking for at the moment despite having earned his first cap for England Under-18s against Italy while he has been training and playing in their reserves.
City boss Andy Thorn insists the club’s Academy graduate will receive a warm welcome home at the Ricoh Arena, saying: “I spoke to Conor yesterday because he has got a hamstring injury which he did in training so I will be speaking to Liverpool to find out what’s happening.
“But if they don’t take him, then we will welcome the boy back with open arms because he’s one of ours and we’ll have him back around the fray, and I think the way we are playing will suit him as well.
“It has been a great experience for him going to Liverpool because he will have seen their standards and what other clubs do.”
Thomas, who is regarded as one of the hottest prospects to come from the Academy for years, stunned fans when he was snapped up by Liverpool on transfer deadline day, just two days after making his full senior debut for the Sky Blues in the 3-2 FA Cup fourth round defeat at Birmingham.
Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...o-coventry-city-92746-28631265/#ixzz1LNu0shUd
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His move sparked controversy in the board room, prompting then vice-chairman Gary Hoffman to resign citing the deal as the last straw in his on-going concerns about the way the club was being run.
The deal was also strongly opposed by then chairman Ray Ranson who resigned the following month, while then manager Aidy Boothroyd was also privately unhappy with the decision which was taken above his head.
It has since emerged that the reason behind the deal was because City were desperate for the cash from the Premier League club who had been watching the player for a number of years.
The initial £250,000 loan fee helped ease the club’s growing financial difficulties that saw them go two days away from administration at the end of March until the club managed to secure £4-5 million from their Sisu investors to tide them over until the end of the season.
If Liverpool want to take up their option to sign the lad it is understood that it would cost them £1.5 in total, but there is rumoured to be a very large agent’s fee involved that would eat into what City would receive, and that is understood to have been the main reason for the board room rift.
But as it stands, it appears that the former Coundon Court schoolboy is heading back to Coventry to continue his footballing education and where his home town club will be able to enjoy the benefits of his talent for the foreseeable future.
Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...coventry-city-92746-28631265/2/#ixzz1LNuUdrNK
The deal was also strongly opposed by then chairman Ray Ranson who resigned the following month, while then manager Aidy Boothroyd was also privately unhappy with the decision which was taken above his head.
It has since emerged that the reason behind the deal was because City were desperate for the cash from the Premier League club who had been watching the player for a number of years.
The initial £250,000 loan fee helped ease the club’s growing financial difficulties that saw them go two days away from administration at the end of March until the club managed to secure £4-5 million from their Sisu investors to tide them over until the end of the season.
If Liverpool want to take up their option to sign the lad it is understood that it would cost them £1.5 in total, but there is rumoured to be a very large agent’s fee involved that would eat into what City would receive, and that is understood to have been the main reason for the board room rift.
But as it stands, it appears that the former Coundon Court schoolboy is heading back to Coventry to continue his footballing education and where his home town club will be able to enjoy the benefits of his talent for the foreseeable future.
Read More http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/co...coventry-city-92746-28631265/2/#ixzz1LNuUdrNK
The worrying part is that we were allegedly so desperate to raise £250,000. If true then we really are up s##t creak without a paddle, and explains why SISU are ringing round trying to flog season tickets. Still no accounts filed, and a transfer embargo in place. SISU simply don't understand football.
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CovScott88
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Really good news for us, but gutted for the lad. As has been mentioned, he has spent 4 months training with higher quality players and being taught by higher quality coaches, that can only have been beneficial.
ajsccfc
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In much the same way as most football fans don't understand finance.
TheRoyalScam
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Agreed, however there should be at least one football-savvy board member.
Coventry La La La
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If he's still here next season he will be a good squad player to have.
Goodluck to him if he still get's his big move.
Goodluck to him if he still get's his big move.
kg82
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Monkeyface, the part about Thomas actually saying he doesn't want to sign for them and wants to come back here should be music to the ears of every Coventry fan! Lets hope he stays then and we can hopefully keep King and get in a couple of replacements for Westwood and Gunnar (if both of them go). The other thing is, Thomas is a ball player, he'll love the way Thorn sets out the team and as he's had the experience of being at Liverpool now it can only benefit us (again, IF he actually stays)!
Il Pirata
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I think he's gone anyway, well half way out.
