Having spoken to the FA about 18 months ago, and indeed had anyone spoken to them, they would know that the Football League is effectively autonomous from the FA.
As such, any "GOLDEN SHARE" to play in the Football League is at the discretion of the FA. The FA IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS have said time and time again anything to deal with Football League matters (be it Dulux sitting in the dug out or administration) will be dealt with by the Football League and NOT the FA!
This is the key bit. From Friday's farce, one glint of useful info was let out by Mr Fisher. His contention is that his claim is valid it seems based solely on the fact that the FA accepted registrations under holdings NOT Ltd. But thing is it is down to the LEAGUE NOT THE FA where the share for CCFC is handed out to!
If this were politics, then the FA are the house of lords, and the League as far as CCFC are concerned is Parliament. Sure Sisu could appeal to the FA if the decision goes against them, however it will be unprecedented for the FA to reverse a decision the league has made regarding the issue of the share; as the share issue is ultimately at DISCRETION - it is NOT a legal entity that can be bought or sold separately - Sisu NEVER OWNED the share - it was AWARDED!
Now I suspect Fisher knows this, which is why he is trying so desparately hard to convince everyone that the share is theirs by some divine right. Sadly for them this is not and never was the case.
The problem is however, is that by using scare tactics (as he has done throughout their time at ccfc incidentally) is making some fans desparate, which would probably explain why a few actually voted FOR a move away from the ricoh.
The thing is, let's assume for a moment worst case a stadium is built outside of coventry (AGAINST FA RULES - one of the things FA takes precedence over the FL), then city will have gone from a 23k to a 37k to an 11K stadium!). While those who are not looking long term will think this is fine as we only currently have 10K attendances, what will happen if we have dare I say it success?
Sure it will be full houses game after game, but an 11K ground in the championship? How long would city last under FFP? It would mean more money would need to be invested in either extending the stadium, or WORSE yet ANOTHER move!
Are fans really prepared to have FOUR grounds in less than 10-15 years? They moan about multiple managers, having multiple grounds is just unthinkable. 2 is enough - we are NOT nomads!
Clearly either sisu haven't truly thought this out, or it is bluster. There is NO WAY yet another ground OUTSIDE (even if it is 1/4 mile outside) the city of coventry is acceptable.
Trouble is whilst there is an awful lot of bluster, those football groups whose very existence was supposedly JUST to save the club as a LAST RESORT are failing to do what they were set up to do.
Constantly demanding to be an arbitrator is NOT repeat NOT saving the club. If either side genuinely wanted to sit down and talk, a far more suitable moderator could easily be found. Which kind of puts into question their entire credibility and their entire existence is pointless.
Even if you contend that they need to be able to talk with sisu, and for the sake of argument sisu stay and even more for the sake of argument they give them their desired free place on the board (which I highly doubt) do they HONESTLY think sisu would listen to a word they say? Have they listened AT ALL - How did the turning down of the tannoy go?
It just really amuses me that they still believe talks with sisu are a good thing! Even if you discount that they voted 99% for NEVER having anything to do with sisu and yet they STILL say they will sit down and talk with sisu (utterly disproving that they are democratic - indeed it is showing they are DESPOTIC, as they are going AGAINST 99% of their membership who voted AGAINST having anyting more to do with sisu).
But hey if any member or anyone else CAN complain to them directly - just as long as you are prepared to pay £500 FOR THEM TO INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES!
(Maybe this is why they are releasing their trolls over the internet, perhaps it is another one of their drives to get funds into the clique!)
Instead of trying to justify yourselves becaus ethey cannot organise anything effectively, perhaps they should concentrate on raising funds for a purchase of the ricoh - which after all WAS their stated aim. Indeed the same trolls who are aggressively trying to justify the unjustifiable now are the SAME trolls who were so vehement that their ONLY goal was to act as a last resort.
Trouble for the clique, is that somewhere along the road reality kicked in, and they realised as I had told them time after time, that they will NEVER EVER be able to acquire the necessary funds to put a bid in for the ricoh.
They REFUSED to listen, and than as now simple tried pitiful personal attacks and hate filled jibes. In secret however they had to admit I was right, and now they are in the utterly absurd position of clamouring for a seat on the board, yet having to pretend they submit to the will of their members.
It isn't difficult. YOUR membership DOES NOT want ANYTHING to do with SISU. Even by offering to chair talks you are defying the will of YOUR membership.
How is that NOT total betrayal of YOUR membership.
I'm not the one who is letting down the trust - it is the troll on the board and withing their group, that are acting in a contrary way to their stated goal of being
"OPEN HONEST AND DEMOCRATIC"
Open - FAILED (asking for meetings in private and REFUSING to have them out in the open!)
Honest - FAILED (Telling people they will condemn and ACTIVELY route out anyone acting in an aggressive manner. This forum's trust trolls puts this one into the dustbin!)
Democratic - FAILED (99% say NOTHING to do with sisu yet still wanting talks with them!)
If the trust were a working animal, it would have been put down for being lame. Roll on the "what have you done" or " at least they are doing....." BS. Truth is they are NOT doing and they have NOT done! That is PRECISELY why they deserve our derision.
At least the forums are exposing them for wht the tuly are.
Ineffectual
Delusional
Intransigent
Overly represented
Tyrannical (defying the will of their OWN membership)
Superfluous
Ishall leave you to work out what that makes them!
SISU OUT SBT OUT
As such, any "GOLDEN SHARE" to play in the Football League is at the discretion of the FA. The FA IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS have said time and time again anything to deal with Football League matters (be it Dulux sitting in the dug out or administration) will be dealt with by the Football League and NOT the FA!
This is the key bit. From Friday's farce, one glint of useful info was let out by Mr Fisher. His contention is that his claim is valid it seems based solely on the fact that the FA accepted registrations under holdings NOT Ltd. But thing is it is down to the LEAGUE NOT THE FA where the share for CCFC is handed out to!
If this were politics, then the FA are the house of lords, and the League as far as CCFC are concerned is Parliament. Sure Sisu could appeal to the FA if the decision goes against them, however it will be unprecedented for the FA to reverse a decision the league has made regarding the issue of the share; as the share issue is ultimately at DISCRETION - it is NOT a legal entity that can be bought or sold separately - Sisu NEVER OWNED the share - it was AWARDED!
Now I suspect Fisher knows this, which is why he is trying so desparately hard to convince everyone that the share is theirs by some divine right. Sadly for them this is not and never was the case.
The problem is however, is that by using scare tactics (as he has done throughout their time at ccfc incidentally) is making some fans desparate, which would probably explain why a few actually voted FOR a move away from the ricoh.
The thing is, let's assume for a moment worst case a stadium is built outside of coventry (AGAINST FA RULES - one of the things FA takes precedence over the FL), then city will have gone from a 23k to a 37k to an 11K stadium!). While those who are not looking long term will think this is fine as we only currently have 10K attendances, what will happen if we have dare I say it success?
Sure it will be full houses game after game, but an 11K ground in the championship? How long would city last under FFP? It would mean more money would need to be invested in either extending the stadium, or WORSE yet ANOTHER move!
Are fans really prepared to have FOUR grounds in less than 10-15 years? They moan about multiple managers, having multiple grounds is just unthinkable. 2 is enough - we are NOT nomads!
Clearly either sisu haven't truly thought this out, or it is bluster. There is NO WAY yet another ground OUTSIDE (even if it is 1/4 mile outside) the city of coventry is acceptable.
Trouble is whilst there is an awful lot of bluster, those football groups whose very existence was supposedly JUST to save the club as a LAST RESORT are failing to do what they were set up to do.
Constantly demanding to be an arbitrator is NOT repeat NOT saving the club. If either side genuinely wanted to sit down and talk, a far more suitable moderator could easily be found. Which kind of puts into question their entire credibility and their entire existence is pointless.
Even if you contend that they need to be able to talk with sisu, and for the sake of argument sisu stay and even more for the sake of argument they give them their desired free place on the board (which I highly doubt) do they HONESTLY think sisu would listen to a word they say? Have they listened AT ALL - How did the turning down of the tannoy go?
It just really amuses me that they still believe talks with sisu are a good thing! Even if you discount that they voted 99% for NEVER having anything to do with sisu and yet they STILL say they will sit down and talk with sisu (utterly disproving that they are democratic - indeed it is showing they are DESPOTIC, as they are going AGAINST 99% of their membership who voted AGAINST having anyting more to do with sisu).
But hey if any member or anyone else CAN complain to them directly - just as long as you are prepared to pay £500 FOR THEM TO INVESTIGATE THEMSELVES!
(Maybe this is why they are releasing their trolls over the internet, perhaps it is another one of their drives to get funds into the clique!)
Instead of trying to justify yourselves becaus ethey cannot organise anything effectively, perhaps they should concentrate on raising funds for a purchase of the ricoh - which after all WAS their stated aim. Indeed the same trolls who are aggressively trying to justify the unjustifiable now are the SAME trolls who were so vehement that their ONLY goal was to act as a last resort.
Trouble for the clique, is that somewhere along the road reality kicked in, and they realised as I had told them time after time, that they will NEVER EVER be able to acquire the necessary funds to put a bid in for the ricoh.
They REFUSED to listen, and than as now simple tried pitiful personal attacks and hate filled jibes. In secret however they had to admit I was right, and now they are in the utterly absurd position of clamouring for a seat on the board, yet having to pretend they submit to the will of their members.
It isn't difficult. YOUR membership DOES NOT want ANYTHING to do with SISU. Even by offering to chair talks you are defying the will of YOUR membership.
How is that NOT total betrayal of YOUR membership.
I'm not the one who is letting down the trust - it is the troll on the board and withing their group, that are acting in a contrary way to their stated goal of being
"OPEN HONEST AND DEMOCRATIC"
Open - FAILED (asking for meetings in private and REFUSING to have them out in the open!)
Honest - FAILED (Telling people they will condemn and ACTIVELY route out anyone acting in an aggressive manner. This forum's trust trolls puts this one into the dustbin!)
Democratic - FAILED (99% say NOTHING to do with sisu yet still wanting talks with them!)
If the trust were a working animal, it would have been put down for being lame. Roll on the "what have you done" or " at least they are doing....." BS. Truth is they are NOT doing and they have NOT done! That is PRECISELY why they deserve our derision.
At least the forums are exposing them for wht the tuly are.
Ineffectual
Delusional
Intransigent
Overly represented
Tyrannical (defying the will of their OWN membership)
Superfluous
Ishall leave you to work out what that makes them!
SISU OUT SBT OUT
