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[andy_scates]

St Andrews

 

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[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

if we are not playing at Walsall then where?

The bloody Ricoh hopefully.

 

[andy_scates]

And you also learn in business that your customers are your greatest asset.

Without customers you have no business.

Yes exactly, but in the form of a money making business where you need a stadium, to rent a stadium and never have an option to buy a stake in order to maintain profit, your best bet is to move elsewhere

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Build it and they will come:claping hands::claping hands::claping hands::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::jerkit:

 

[quinn1971]

St Andrews

It's good, but it's not right

 

[bigfatronssba]

Yes exactly, but in the form of a money making business where you need a stadium, to rent a stadium and never have an option to buy a stake in order to maintain profit, your best bet is to move elsewhere

The most important thing for the business is to make money.

11k ticket sales will make far more money than 3k ticket sales + 500 pie sales.

It doesn't matter where the money comes from as long as its coming into the club.

A 6 year old could work this one out.

 

[quinn1971]

Build it and they will come:claping hands::claping hands::claping hands::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::jerkit:

If only it was on cwr tonight for that moment only.did you see his face.....priceless

 

[andy_scates]

The most important thing for the business is to make money.

11k ticket sales will make far more money than 3k ticket sales + 500 pie sales.

It doesn't matter where the money comes from as long as its coming into the club.

A 6 year old could work this one out.

You're completely right, but you consider £1.2m immediately deducted off the profit of those 11,000 tickets, compared with say £200k on 4000-5000 sales at Birmingham, and suddenly the pendulum has swung

 

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

It seems Fishers comment about Sheffield Wednesday has hit Owlstalk:

>> Forum Post Link <<

They seem pleased!

 

[italiahorse]

Yes exactly, but in the form of a money making business where you need a stadium, to rent a stadium and never have an option to buy a stake in order to maintain profit, your best bet is to move elsewhere

Junior School economics. Love it.:claping hands:

 

[andy_scates]

Junior School economics. Love it.:claping hands:

Are you here to have an input in this, or just be an all round backseat commenting tit?

 

[quinn1971]

It seems Fishers comment about Sheffield Wednesday has hit Owlstalk:

>> Forum Post Link <<

They seem pleased!

The power of the internet..... funny how the story gets twisted in a few sentences...they think fisher and the chinese are going to buy them

 

[Otis]

Yes exactly, but in the form of a money making business where you need a stadium, to rent a stadium and never have an option to buy a stake in order to maintain profit, your best bet is to move elsewhere

Your best bet is to move away from your customers?

You sure about that? :thinking about::thinking about:

 

[italiahorse]

You're completely right, but you consider £1.2m immediately deducted off the profit of those 11,000 tickets, compared with say £200k on 4000-5000 sales at Birmingham, and suddenly the pendulum has swung

Have you worked it out ? The first option is better :facepalm:

 

[andy_scates]

Your best bet is to move away from your customers?

You sure about that? :thinking about::thinking about:

Brandon or ryton, that's hardly moving away from your customers, it's a temporary thing until the new ground is built, like Rotherham did

 

[Sky blue north east]

Dim fishface can enjoy being smug for now thinking were bluffing by not following ccfc out of coventry,But i bet in few months he will be saying "we(shitzu) have made a horrendous mistake......

 

[Otis]

Brandon or ryton, that's hardly moving away from your customers, it's a temporary thing until the new ground is built, like Rotherham did

Temporary?

3 years minimum. Possibly a lot longer.

Anything but a smart move any rational person would surely say.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Brandon or ryton, that's hardly moving away from your customers, it's a temporary thing until the new ground is built, like Rotherham did

But the customers don't want it. The customers are right.

 

[Bluegloucester]

You're completely right, but you consider £1.2m immediately deducted off the profit of those 11,000 tickets, compared with say £200k on 4000-5000 sales at Birmingham, and suddenly the pendulum has swung

It's £400k not £1.2m in rent

 

[andy_scates]

But the customers don't want it. The customers are right.

Yeah we don't want it, but the council arent willing to negotiate a deal to allow us to feasibly play at the Ricoh, so what other choice do we have but to look elsewhere?

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

You're completely right, but you consider £1.2m immediately deducted off the profit of those 11,000 tickets, compared with say £200k on 4000-5000 sales at Birmingham, and suddenly the pendulum has swung

Offered 400k so the 1.2 million is garbage and where do you get 4 to 5 thousand :facepalm:

 

[andy_scates]

It's £400k not £1.2m in rent

No, the "proposed" deal was £400k, plus a £24m bond. The actual current rent is £1-£1.2m

 

[Bluegloucester]

Brandon or ryton, that's hardly moving away from your customers, it's a temporary thing until the new ground is built, like Rotherham did

If, and that's a big if, we were to build a new stadium it would take 5 years minimum. This is a total wind up.

 

[Sir Digby Chicken Caesar]

The power of the internet..... funny how the story gets twisted in a few sentences...they think fisher and the chinese are going to buy them

They probably think SISU is a Chinese company. They seem to have got a general feeling for Tim Fisher being useless correct though.

 

[Tonylinc]

So, lets get this straight; do we all believe that the, "new ground", is Brandon? If that is the case, what happens to the Bees? Do they still ride there as well? Will there be a track outside the playing field? How much will it cost to upgrade the stands?..........How many of us consider this to be a serious plan?

 

[DaleM]

You're completely right, but you consider £1.2m immediately deducted off the profit of those 11,000 tickets, compared with say £200k on 4000-5000 sales at Birmingham, and suddenly the pendulum has swung

No it doesn't . A five year old could work it out.
Lets enlighten you.
23 games a season at home (Not going to include cup games)
Say on average £20 a ticket. So that works out on an 11k gate at £5 million roughly
Deduct 1.2mill and even 250k match day costs and it leaves lets say 3.5million

Now 5k gate at 20 a ticket x 23 equals 2.3million plus 100k profit for pies etc we are still over a million short.And then take the rent money off.

 

[Bluegloucester]

No, the "proposed" deal was £400k, plus a £24m bond. The actual current rent is £1-£1.2m

Yes smart arse I know what the current rent is, you turned down £400k pa. The £24m bond is a separate issue.

 

[bigfatronssba]

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Yeah we don't want it, but the council arent willing to negotiate a deal to allow us to feasibly play at the Ricoh, so what other choice do we have but to look elsewhere?

Its down to Tim Fisher to find somewhere suitable for the fans. The how's and whys are down to him to sort out.

 

[italiahorse]

No, the "proposed" deal was £400k, plus a £24m bond. The actual current rent is £1-£1.2m

Lost me now. Seem to be pulling figures quoted from several sources to make a sentence.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Just got back -- waste of time going. It's quite obvious SISU don't give a monkey's bum about what we supporters want. They are going to carry on regardless. I fear the worst.. SISU will be the preferred bidder and carry on regardless.

Thought you may feel that way.

Still you did what you thought was right and timmie knows 80% of the fans will not be following him

 

[dadgad]

So, lets get this straight; do we all believe that the, "new ground", is Brandon? If that is the case, what happens to the Bees? Do they still ride there as well? Will there be a track outside the playing field? How much will it cost to upgrade the stands?..........How many of us consider this to be a serious plan?

Nobody with an ounce of Planning experience thinks that this is the least bit credible.
Wouldn't get past the preliminary stage.

 

[Bluegloucester]

andy_scales you keep referring to the club in the third person, you are not a supporter or a fan. Who are you?

 

[andy_scates]

Yes smart arse I know what the current rent is, you turned down £400k pa. The £24m bond is a separate issue.

So why the fuck did you just try correcting me by saying that the current rent is £400k?
And no, I'm not a SISU employee, I didn't turn down a deal, smart arse

 

[andy_scates]

andy_scales you keep referring to the club in the third person, you are not a supporter or a fan. Who are you?

I'm a supporter. I travel to as many away games as I can afford on a mediocre wage, and go to as many home games as I practically can, all financial wise. Sorry that I'm not 70 years old and can remember when we were in the premier league, I'm 20, and because I've not been a season ticket holder for 30 years, does not make me any less of a fan than you or anyone else

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

I'm a supporter. I travel to as many away games as I can afford on a mediocre wage, and go to as many home games as I practically can, all financial wise. Sorry that I'm not 70 years old and can remember when we were in the premier league, I'm 20, and because I've not been a season ticket holder for 30 years, does not make me any less of a fan than you or anyone else

Doesnt make you a better one either