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I was led to believe that the new owners of the greyhound lease at Brandon had to guarantee the Greyhound Association 5 years continous use of Brandon,before they sanctioned the re-opening of greyhounds at Brandon again.Also when Mick Horton bought the Coventry Bees off Sandhu,he also bought all of the Bees assets,which amount to a considerable number of riders.Birmingham's team include Bomber,Josh Auty and Smolinski who are all Coventry owned assets.Indeed it is hard to imagine that in a cash strapped sport Horton would have paid all that money for all of the Bees assets without some guarantee of continued use of Brandon.
There is absolutely no way a pitch could be accomodated inside the track,plus the close proximity of houses in Speedway lane,would surely preclude the building of new stands which block out sunlight onto there house frontages.The whole place would have to be pulled down,and would hardly help endear SISU to motor sport fans.
Westendlad
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dongonzalos
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I am more making the point it does not matter if it is Walsall, Leicester, Birmingham or Northampton.
It is not acceptable and a completely unviable plan for Coventry to move 20-30 miles away.
If Tim had handled the discussions in a more professional manner we would not be where we are now.
The plan does not financially add up hence the majority do not believe it to be true. ( the building a new stadium bit)
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dongonzalos
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That would fit perfectly, buy the land as part of the bluff. All future purchases of land fall into the AVRO's debenture so can't be touched.
Move the club to Birmingham or wherever.
Keep the bees there and hope ACL crumble and ghe council ask SISU to come back.
Sell Brandon AVRO get their money back.
(Big gamble with Cov City's future as I don't think ACL or will actually crumble)
James Smith
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Flipside to that is if you take where I work, we could own our own building if we moved out away from where we are now. However we need the footfall to be high because if we don't get a certain number of paying customers each day we can't make any money. We are also competing with other shops and need to attract customers to us rather than them. Moving would cost us that footfall and other shops on the high street would pick up those customers who aren't prepared to travel to shop with us. So whilst we might save money by moving we'd not be better off because of the drop in revenue.
Now you could argue that unlike general retail football is a specialist business and large numbers of people will travel to watch their team. However Tim says we're not making money at the moment despite having paid no rent for over a year and that's with a stadium within easy reach (comparatively) of the majority of the fans. So moving away from there when a very large number of the existing fans have said that they won't follow the club away from the city is madness. Even if they planned to bus people to a new ground/groundshare it still doesn't make sense financially if the majority of current fans/customers won't go there anyway. So the £400k question is will Tim be able to attract more fans, both existing and new at his mystery new location than he can currently? Only time will tell.
James Smith
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Yup their lawyer made it.
James Smith
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Wait a minute we haven't paid any rent for a year and we didn't manage to make a profit, and that was with a larger number of fans than we'll get elsewhere. That's not hard to understand is it?
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Bluegloucester
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Yes, James Powell
Dim Trisha ,Who is she?? Eh.
James Smith
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Really wish I could have been there this evening but we don't close until 6 and we don't finish until about 6:15 so no chance of getting there in 45 minutes.
Flying Fokker
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I go for another consortium of local businessmen. John Nollett likes to take on challenges and is a city fan. He could be one amongst a group.
sky blue zam
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so brandon hasnt been agreed but a price has been???????
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1940 oldfive
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we who is we? dim tim?:claping hands:
Flying Fokker
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Kid. Your board member 'friend' who just may have told you too much is not going to be happy when he reads this. I suspect you are the son of one of them. Your heart may be in the right place but this is something your dad has struggled with so take my advice and ease off. Many on here view SISU as the reason for our failures on and off the pitch and the demise of the club. To even think about a 600k purchase of Brandon is perceived by many laughable in that 600k would just about buy the drive and car park.
Kid. Your board member 'friend' who just may have told you too much is not going to be happy when he reads this. I suspect you are the son of one of them. Your heart may be in the right place but this is something your dad has struggled with so take my advice and ease off. Many on here view SISU as the reason for our failures on and off the pitch and the demise of the club. To even think about a 600k purchase of Brandon is perceived by many laughable in that 600k would just about buy the drive and car park.
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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I think that was the point he was making - sarcasm it hard to read :wave:
lmao!
Ah just think of all those city fans who live in other countries (some as far away as America and Australia) who obviously can't come to every cov game because their geographical positioning and distance prohibits it. Those city fans who therefore wouldn't consider buying a season ticket because there wouldn't be a point and you've just turned around and told them they're not real fans.
You really need to think about what your typing before you post it for everyone to see itIt doesn't make you look (or sound) very intelligent. Just because someone hasn't bought a season ticket does not make them any less of a true fan...but I'm sure you'll go on believing what you posted is correct so don't let me stop you...continue on with your deluded view of how people should or shouldn't support a football club
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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andy_scates
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Don't call me kid and try and patronise me, and no my dad isn't anything to do with the club, why would I post a lie on here? I've posted what I've been informed by someone apparently in the know
dongonzalos
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Sky Blue Kid
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Flying Fokker
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Oh, so you're being used. Kid is an expression that can be used in many ways. If you choose to assume it was patronising then so be it.
Sky Blue Kid
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Originally Posted by andy_scates
Don't call me kid and try and patronise me, and no my dad isn't anything to do with the club, why would I post a lie on here? I've posted what I've been informed by someone apparently in the know
LMFAO....You slag CCFC supporters off and use as FACT information supplied to you by someone apparently in the know?:laugh:
Don't call me kid and try and patronise me, and no my dad isn't anything to do with the club, why would I post a lie on here? I've posted what I've been informed by someone apparently in the knowLMFAO....You slag CCFC supporters off and use as FACT information supplied to you by someone apparently in the know?:laugh:
italiahorse
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I know your not a SISU employee, in fact I'm pretty sure your not anybody's employee.
duffer
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Andy, I'm afraid you keep repeating the same mistakes:
If you're talking about F & B revenue, it's not the Council it's Compass.
If you're talking about the rent, it's not the Council, it's ACL. And it's not £1.2m, it's £400k (or could have been).
If you're talking about SISUs investment, it's nowhere near £70m. It's probably more like £20-30m, clearly with a significant wind down over the last few seasons.
The rent offer of 400k is well below the £700k that SISU seemingly paid to themselves in interest on CCFC Ltd's debt (a non-trading subsidiary).
When you get a moment can you ask your close family friend how feasible that model (loading more debt and interest onto a non-trading entity) is please, I'd love to know.
I've got £100 that says you'd never get planning permission to build a stadium for more than a few thousand at Brandon within three years. In fact, given the terrible infrastructure and relative wealth of the surrounding area, I doubt you'd ever get it (it's not just SISU that can try to tie councils up with judicial reviews). Any takers?
Otis
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Sky Blues won't play at Coventry Stadium speedway track says Bees boss
Brandon a non-starter if CCFC quit the Ricoh Arena, insists Mick Horton
The freehold at Brandon was placed on the market last winter with “re-use/redevelopment potential (subject to planning)” in an area where even largely cosmetic changes to the site have previously been rejected.
Horton said: “I signed a four-year agreement for the speedway in April.
“I think anyone that knows the area would know that a football stadium is a non-starter. The infrastructure just isn’t there and the road network would need to be totally changed.
It just wouldn’t happen, not under Rugby Council, so I think we can dismiss that immediately."
:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
andy_scates
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I'm a fully qualified level 3 Diploma Plumber, heating engineer, and gas safe registered, all via City and Guilds qualifications, I'd like to see you do that whilst unemployed
andy_scates
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And before you question my intellect because you've proven what a tit you really are Italiahorse, its I'm sure YOU'RE not employed, not your
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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I think you find it comes under public order the police could object
duffer
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Andy, if your close family friend ever gives you a tip for a horse, my advice would be don't back it.
letsallsingtogether
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So what problems are not down to SISU They own the club They run the Club They do as they please no one else to blame all the desisions made are down to them OK rent was 1.2M they signed up for that they knew what it was and then let it fester until they thought it was unfair.
All down to bad management so who else is to blame they brought it on themselves :blue:
All down to bad management so who else is to blame they brought it on themselves :blue: