lordsummerisle
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I did sign our captain on loan for a couple of months, but despite his name, he was absolutely shit at baking.
Kitchen just a mess of flour,eggs and sunken soufle's.
Had to send him back.
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I did sign our captain on loan for a couple of months, but despite his name, he was absolutely shit at baking.
Kitchen just a mess of flour,eggs and sunken soufle's.
Had to send him back.
Sterling Archer
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I've also been stung by this and my own illiteracy. It turns out that Leon lad in the youth team everyone is banging on about is RUBBISH at lobotomies.
Grendel
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Lots of hysterical nonense on here. What's the story, laws wants to sign Clark bit he's paid too much.
Also even if sisu fund losses they are not allowed to breach FPP rules which factor in total turnover. If these guys are paid over a million a year between them we'd need to sell them even if we had 10,000 a week.
Also even if sisu fund losses they are not allowed to breach FPP rules which factor in total turnover. If these guys are paid over a million a year between them we'd need to sell them even if we had 10,000 a week.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Ben Turner was shit on a lathe too....
...however, I did once have Dean Windass around for tea......never again...
Grendel
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The fact you believe the crap about Henderson and Carroll discredits the post.
Sterling Archer
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Well, that and the fact that all clubs end up selling players at some point throughout history.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Whilst I wouldn't argue with you about Ranson and your use of the 'i' word; at the time he left, we were above Midlesbrough, Derby and Crystal Palace in the championship.
Our largest league gate during that season was over 28K, at home, against Leeds. We played in a town called Coventry back then.
If he was 'incompetent', what adjectives would you summon for those who have steered the ship since 'Mr I' left?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Wait there. We signed him in 2013 - at a time when we were only getting 10K a game. Is your grand point of debate that we needed to sell him before we signed him?
ccfcmustang
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Im simply commenting on the lack of ambition shown by our owners. All of the above players were unproven when we signed them. I think it shows how ambitious these owners are when they have sold each and every one of them. Were any of them replaced? No. There is a clear sign that the owners do not care about the footballing side when a team which could of easily got promoted are sold with not one replacement bought. and in the interests of carroll and henderson, maybe i should of left those out. If an offer for clarke comes their way he will go. thats my point
fernandopartridge
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No - it's that the rules then and the rules now are different. Either he was signed on the premise that we'd be promoted or SISU were hedging their bets on being able to sell him at a later date, or, perhaps achieving a better wage bill: income ration based on paying a fair rent.
lordsummerisle
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With such great crowds and exalted league positions then losing millions upon millions, year on year must surely make him even more incompetent?
Though of course when he left we were 4th from bottom and and not above Derby and Middlesborough, and finished the seaon 6th from bottom(still above Crystal Palace).
I know you're not overly keen on facts getting in the way of a good argument, but it might be worth you giving them a try sometime, even if just for the novelty value.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Let me paraphrase your answer. No. I have no idea.
In what way are the rules different?
Astute
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So you admit that these players will have to be sold because SISU moved us to Northampton and nothing to do with NOPM?
Grendel
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There was still a chance of promotion, suggestion is we tried to sign mcgoldrick on £10k a week. It was a gamble. We were not in administration and it was a risk worth taking.
At that point in time the rent payments were approx £0.00 weren't they? So the wage bill:income ratio was completely unaffected either way by such considerations.
Grendel
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I'm saying only sisu would probably have been profligate enough to offer them such wages anyway on long term contracts.
I hope new owners would be sensible and realise that these types of players must leave.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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If we were at the Ricoh I would agree but we were always going to struggle in Northampton regardless of NOPM
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Do you know the day his resignation was actually lodged and? It was announced in the papers in and around March 28th to 30th.
We didn't play from 19th March, at which point we were fourth from bottom, until April 2nd, when we beat Watford, climbed the table and you'll find my 'facts' 100% correct. The April 2nd table was the closest to the day of the newspaper article, and probably more representative of the time he'd have handed over and moved on.
Still, why permit semantics to get in the way of addressing the bigger issue, eh?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Why give him a two and a half year deal then? Why not sign him until the end of the season?
Grendel
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So what league position were we on the day of the announcement?
covcity4life
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i dont believe that they are on 8k
last 3 years has been cost cutting, it was rumoured wood was the last of the big wages, i reckon these guys would be on:
Leon clarke - 3k
baker - 4k
murphy - 4k
last 3 years has been cost cutting, it was rumoured wood was the last of the big wages, i reckon these guys would be on:
Leon clarke - 3k
baker - 4k
murphy - 4k
fernandopartridge
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The spending constraints are tighter now than they were then.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Why? Why are they different from this January's?
Don't tell me smaller gates and/or incomes; as Fisher assured us, and the Football League, that SISU were prepared to cover such losses...
lordsummerisle
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RoboCCFC90
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I am sure I read somewhere that Forest were expecting a fee to allow McGoldrick to leave for us, plus we couldn't match his wages and he was offered a stay in the Championship, I still think had he been offered a chance to stay at us and Ipswich on the same financial terms he would have gone to Ipswich.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Again, you're just concentrating on semantics of a single point as the balance of the debate is well beyond you. You could ask at what day was his resignation filed at company's house.
LS hasn't as yet told us what the latest management is, if Ranson was 'incompetent'.
And at least he oversaw a business that did sell players for a profit. Can you name me one player signed since Ranson left that we've subsequently made money on? So, if we're looking at financial mess, I think it's a bit rich to label him 'incompetent', and refuse to label those who have administered the business since
Match his wages?..................I thought we only got him because he was wetting his end in the Forest goalkeepers missus and they wanted him out and didn't have to pay a penny until his 3 month spell ended and then surprise surprise he became rather attractive to a bundle of clubs in dire need of goals?!
lordsummerisle
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We've sold Dann and Fox for a "profit", though a total of around 3 million for them(as was in the accounts), am gross underselling.
Virtually everybody else we let go for nothing, either through letting them run down their contracts, or because they weren't good enough to actually demand a fee for their services.
Have to say that in some areas of transfer dealing he was very good, unfortunately it was for Cardiff whilst he was our Chairman.
It isn't semantics to correct something that is wrong that you are using as one of the cruxes of your argument.
Like you regularly do.
There are plenty of real facts about the incompetence of Sisu and all their minions, making stuff up just invalidates any real points that you have to make.
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RoboCCFC90
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From what I understand of it we were paying a £2000PW portion of his £10,000PW Salary.. I could be wrong but I did think I read it somewhere.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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Jutkiewitz? Keogh? Don't they count?
Best,bigi???
stupot07
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Best had 6 months left on his contract and would have left for nothing. £1.5m Newcastle paid for him was a good fee in the circumstances.
lordsummerisle
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Weren't sold whilst he was here, which is what your argument is about him being so great.
Are we supposed to celbrate selling players now then in order to praise Ranson?
Thought this thread was generally dedicated to the opposite?
lordsummerisle
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And of course not signed by Ranson.