Coventry V Sheffield United (20 Viewers)
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sky blue zam
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candlelit vigil?
pusbccfc
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We already have a torch on the forum..
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Very good point mate.....
...so the hill protest for this game looks even more redundant IMHO....
....still...I guess as no protest of any real large scale significance appears to be organised and/or promoted by the trust & their various factions....I suppose about 200 blokes on a hill who can neither be seen or heard by the Sky viewers is as good as it going to get.......:thinking about:
sky blue zam
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Let's set some lanterns off
and have a firework display ;-)
The majority of League one and two games live on sky have empty stands, especially when it isnt a high profile derby match. .
If I was in the pub and looked at the telly to see Carlisle v Bristol City and the stadium was 2/3 empty I wouldnt think twice about it, just a standard attendance at League 1.
If you are really wanting to make a real impact on the viewing public then the match must be interrupted/abandoned. This way it will be on SSN for the next 24 hours on loop, BBC/Skysports website etc, and would probably make a pretty huge dent in TFs pocket.
Im not condolning this simply stating that this is the only way to gain maximum exposure.
A protest on the hill would not even make SSN's goal highlights. An abandonment would be huge news.
If I was in the pub and looked at the telly to see Carlisle v Bristol City and the stadium was 2/3 empty I wouldnt think twice about it, just a standard attendance at League 1.
If you are really wanting to make a real impact on the viewing public then the match must be interrupted/abandoned. This way it will be on SSN for the next 24 hours on loop, BBC/Skysports website etc, and would probably make a pretty huge dent in TFs pocket.
Im not condolning this simply stating that this is the only way to gain maximum exposure.
A protest on the hill would not even make SSN's goal highlights. An abandonment would be huge news.
Covstu
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Okay we are getting into scary territory now.....
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Correct.....but doesn't have to be an abandonment......would also be effective if we managed pack the ground & then carry out one of the several great ideas already floated.....
....but I fear we are swimming against the tide on this.....
...Shame as its our last chance to demonstrate we care (in vast numbers) live on telly & I fear its going to be a massive let-down....
Nail on head. Nobody will give a toss if the ground is empty. They won't pay much attention if the cameras show a couple of fleeting shots of a few hundred people shivering on a hill. They will sit up and take notice if the game is interrupted.
bigfatronssba
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Sky will take notice if I can get some extra loud fireworks and let them off over sixfields during the game.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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...unless its going to spell out "Keep Coventry in Coventry....PUSB" in a cascading array of colours.....it'll just look like some local kids have got their guy fawkes supplies early....
KG7
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It's a difficult one.
I would say that there are two things that are paramount, in this order:
- DO NOT affect the team.
- Get our message across.
I have been to Sixfields twice and I think the players are really benefitting from the positive atmosphere in there. No-one is getting on their backs which would happen instantly at the Ricoh. (This isn't a dig, it's just an observation) I don't think this team would have flourished as much as it has if we were at The Ricoh.
I would also say that whatever you do will have more impact if it's 'active'. Simply sitting down on a hill and singing is not interesting TV, I work in TV and it will not get any exposure.
Walking around the stadium for ninety minutes, playing a game of football on the hill, some sort of mass metaphorical phsycial drama, or even something as simple as people spelling out different messages with their bodies through out the game (ie. all lie down to spell, keep cov in cov, city til i die etc) will be interesting TV and would be something that a camera cannot ignore. People singing on a hill will be shown once, and perhaps when we score but it will not have any impact on the audience.
I think that a mass exodus at kick off is a great visual way of showing our discontent, by the way.
I would say that there are two things that are paramount, in this order:
- DO NOT affect the team.
- Get our message across.
I have been to Sixfields twice and I think the players are really benefitting from the positive atmosphere in there. No-one is getting on their backs which would happen instantly at the Ricoh. (This isn't a dig, it's just an observation) I don't think this team would have flourished as much as it has if we were at The Ricoh.
I would also say that whatever you do will have more impact if it's 'active'. Simply sitting down on a hill and singing is not interesting TV, I work in TV and it will not get any exposure.
Walking around the stadium for ninety minutes, playing a game of football on the hill, some sort of mass metaphorical phsycial drama, or even something as simple as people spelling out different messages with their bodies through out the game (ie. all lie down to spell, keep cov in cov, city til i die etc) will be interesting TV and would be something that a camera cannot ignore. People singing on a hill will be shown once, and perhaps when we score but it will not have any impact on the audience.
I think that a mass exodus at kick off is a great visual way of showing our discontent, by the way.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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sky blue zam
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as this is on sky and with no more tv matches planned we have to get this righy. maybe we will get another tv game and do it all again. in the ground or on the hill the sky blue trust or kcic campaign must start organising something and quick.
7000 people attended the march with less than a weeks notice, imagine the numbers with 4 weeks notice
7000 people attended the march with less than a weeks notice, imagine the numbers with 4 weeks notice
pusbccfc
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I think the flares, lanterns, smoke bombs, balloons would work. They cannot ignore 1000 fans, hundreds of balloons, Flares, and an incredible amount of noise with drums, horns and loud fans!!
It only takes 10 seconds to turn around a camera to 1000 fans on the hill by the ground.
It only takes 10 seconds to turn around a camera to 1000 fans on the hill by the ground.
KG7
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I'm not sure that you can hear anything from the ground. I've seen pictures on the internet of a drum that was there at the weekend but I didn't hear it once. I faintly heard the Sky Blue Song at one point but it didn't really carry on the wind
sky blue zam
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Mucca Mad Boys
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I'm not being funny, but protesting on the hill, in my view, defeats the objective, you're arguing 'keep Cov in Cov', but still make the effort to go to Northampton to watch on a hill.
What would the hill protestors do if it was closed one game? Just go home or 'got this far, may as well go in'?
KG7
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Well I didn't hear - anything for most of the game - it would be a waste of time if people put all that effort in and then the wind was blowing the wrong way or the mics didn't pick anything up
simple_simon
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No idea what is best for the Sheffield game but hope its big.
Am sure we can discuss on the Hill before then as have two more away games at home v Gillingham and Brentford.
Am sure we can discuss on the Hill before then as have two more away games at home v Gillingham and Brentford.
KG7
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Not having a go PUSBccfc, just letting you know. Murph might have heard you but I didn't. Might be different with more people but I think you need to test it out first
Bill Glazier
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Can I suggest any protest should not affect the team? Pressley has worked a total miracle- I was there on Sunday despite misgivings- and this young team he is building is superb. A promoted CCFC would have to return to the Ricoh - the gates would be too big. Maybe Sisu would find a way to go if we were promoted.
This team can do it, believe me. The best City team for many, many years deserves to be left to get on with its job. Our dispute is with the charlatans at Sisu and not with these fantastic young players and their inspirational manager.
This team can do it, believe me. The best City team for many, many years deserves to be left to get on with its job. Our dispute is with the charlatans at Sisu and not with these fantastic young players and their inspirational manager.
MichaelCCFC
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seems to be 2 threads covering same thing so this is what I've posted on the tennis balls one
A stunt like this [launching tennis balls onto the pitch] would attract brief attention. However, that brief burst of attention would come at a high price: Sky have given kcic excellent coverage, including last Sunday, but be in absolutely no doubt that any disruption of a Sky game would lead Sky to never give us any positive coverage again and quite possibly report very negatively on us; even a potential hint of a risk to players will immediately have us labelled as being against the team; any behaviour which is not beyond reproach will lead us to immediately be labelled as nothing more than hooligans which is exactly what sepalla and the FL want. This is a war of attrition not a one off event. We need to portray sisu and the FL as anti-football, they are the ones causing disruption and ripping a football club apart. We are the reasonable voice in this affair and are the long-suffering dedicated but disrespected fans who are the true custodians of ccfc and football itself. So if you want to destroy the kcic campaign then go ahead with disrupting the game and causing trouble of various sorts. If you want to save ccfc then it means standing together on Jimmy's Hill in as large numbers as we can muster and making as much noise as we can to support our team (drums are good but whistles during the game are bad because they might interfere with the ref's whistle) and our voice and message will be heard loud and clear, gaining public and media support and piling yet more pressure on sisu and the FL. [PS - I hv spoken to 2 journos who were inside sixfields on sunday and both could hear those of us who were on the Hill dead clearly]
A stunt like this [launching tennis balls onto the pitch] would attract brief attention. However, that brief burst of attention would come at a high price: Sky have given kcic excellent coverage, including last Sunday, but be in absolutely no doubt that any disruption of a Sky game would lead Sky to never give us any positive coverage again and quite possibly report very negatively on us; even a potential hint of a risk to players will immediately have us labelled as being against the team; any behaviour which is not beyond reproach will lead us to immediately be labelled as nothing more than hooligans which is exactly what sepalla and the FL want. This is a war of attrition not a one off event. We need to portray sisu and the FL as anti-football, they are the ones causing disruption and ripping a football club apart. We are the reasonable voice in this affair and are the long-suffering dedicated but disrespected fans who are the true custodians of ccfc and football itself. So if you want to destroy the kcic campaign then go ahead with disrupting the game and causing trouble of various sorts. If you want to save ccfc then it means standing together on Jimmy's Hill in as large numbers as we can muster and making as much noise as we can to support our team (drums are good but whistles during the game are bad because they might interfere with the ref's whistle) and our voice and message will be heard loud and clear, gaining public and media support and piling yet more pressure on sisu and the FL. [PS - I hv spoken to 2 journos who were inside sixfields on sunday and both could hear those of us who were on the Hill dead clearly]
Paxman II
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Well firstly protest should now be concentrated on all parties in this dispute. So ACL/Council, SISU et al should be in the firing line in equal measure. They may not share equal responsibility for this mess but they sure do each share in the sorry mess it has become. You need them all round the table finding a solution so aiming anger at just one party merely mitigates the others from any blame.
I guess by even going to the hill you are accepting that's your team down there playing before you? Better to protest outside the Ricoh I would have thought every 'home' fixture numbering in your thousands and making it easier for protesters to attend, proving what CCFC are missing out on and drawing attention to the stadium itself which is at the heart of the dispute.
If you still insist on the hill then I guess I would imagine another Lady Godiva type protest could have a much more effective media coverage appeal and raise money for the fighting trust by organising a 35 mile sponsored march to the 'Hill'? Get people to sponsor you for each mile you complete and sponsor Lady Godiva at a higher rate to complete the march? Now imagine a few hundred making that march and the funds raised.
I guess by even going to the hill you are accepting that's your team down there playing before you? Better to protest outside the Ricoh I would have thought every 'home' fixture numbering in your thousands and making it easier for protesters to attend, proving what CCFC are missing out on and drawing attention to the stadium itself which is at the heart of the dispute.
If you still insist on the hill then I guess I would imagine another Lady Godiva type protest could have a much more effective media coverage appeal and raise money for the fighting trust by organising a 35 mile sponsored march to the 'Hill'? Get people to sponsor you for each mile you complete and sponsor Lady Godiva at a higher rate to complete the march? Now imagine a few hundred making that march and the funds raised.
All these people who say they couldn't hear us on the hill from the stadium.
The wind was a good 5-9mph from the south on matchday meaning the sound was directed from the stadium towards the people gathered on the hill to the north. This would of made it much harder for the people on the the hill to project sound to the stadium facing south against a headwind on that day.
If you think I am talking bollocks then try going to Glastonbury on a windy day when you are standing at the back of a crowd when a group is on stage.
The wind was a good 5-9mph from the south on matchday meaning the sound was directed from the stadium towards the people gathered on the hill to the north. This would of made it much harder for the people on the the hill to project sound to the stadium facing south against a headwind on that day.
If you think I am talking bollocks then try going to Glastonbury on a windy day when you are standing at the back of a crowd when a group is on stage.
MichaelCCFC
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Paxman, what about this for an idea. On 13 oct there could be simultaneous events - the media loved legends day cos they could cut between Northampton and the ricoh. so on 13 oct kcic will organise the Hill side of things but how about you and the others on here who want to be more critical of acl organising something on that theme in cov. The danger I guess would be appearing to be divided and sending out a very muddled message. but if it was tied to maybe launching the kcic campaign for an Independent Inquiry to bring all parties and individuals to account might it work?