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Skybluepiglet
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What sort of capacity would a stadium built on this warwick site be???
maddog
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I'll be honest I only got the bare bones of what I said. HS2 does go near there I guess. Cant speculate on what I dont know.
maddog
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If this is directed to me or any other questions I really have no more info other than I trust the guy who told me that it is Warwick.
Skybluepiglet
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Well ask him then :thinking about:
Train station would be handy for the ground and students....hope im not giving them ideas ?
shy_tall_knight
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Great our new potential stadium is dependent on HS2 which is constantly in doubt. Retail units well Cannon Park shopping centre may have a problem with it, there are some wealth people in Cannon Hill Park Kenilworth as well as the Kenilworth road, cryfield grange who won't want their tranquility disturbed every other week.
Warwick Uni is a top 10 uni they didn't take the name of Coventry and I'm sure they won't want the stadium, there is new R&D investment going into that site, they would be significant opposition.
If it does happen only Canley residents will be able to walk to the ground, traffic chaos in the country lanes, that's why I don't think it will happen
Warwick Uni is a top 10 uni they didn't take the name of Coventry and I'm sure they won't want the stadium, there is new R&D investment going into that site, they would be significant opposition.
If it does happen only Canley residents will be able to walk to the ground, traffic chaos in the country lanes, that's why I don't think it will happen
Hobo
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Wouldn't that slow the train down?
skybluetony176
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Don't quote me on this but I think it may have to stop now and again
if they are going to put a station outside a football ground it will be when phase 2 is finished and it goes to Manchester so Manchester United's fan base can get there from London
Sky Blue Spud
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I would agree with your last sentence albeit with the exclusion of the word "clever".
Hobo
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Don't quote me on this but I think it may have to stop now and again
The HS2 train might have to stop now and again? Like Lea Hall, Adderley Park, Marston Green, Hampton In Arden, Tile Hill.....SISU Hut ;-)
duffer
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As I recall, Warwick Uni has already got pretty decent sports facilities. Good enough for the Academy, said Fisher (until it turned it that it actually wasn't).
So I don't think the Uni would be too keen from that point of view. And the rather wealthy residents certainly wouldn't, or Tesco at Cannon Park one suspects if there was competing retail. Just that would proably scupper planning permission I'd venture. Then there's the obvious infrastructure issue.
It might be a plan, but I can't see it as anything but a non-starter, personally.
So I don't think the Uni would be too keen from that point of view. And the rather wealthy residents certainly wouldn't, or Tesco at Cannon Park one suspects if there was competing retail. Just that would proably scupper planning permission I'd venture. Then there's the obvious infrastructure issue.
It might be a plan, but I can't see it as anything but a non-starter, personally.
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Jack Griffin
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The idea of HS2 is long journeys without stopping much. No HS2 stations planned near Coventry.. nearest will be at NEC, then Birmingham.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#Bickenhill_.28.22Birmingham_Interchange.22.29
Seyeclops666
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Don't quote me on this but I think it may have to stop now and again
Doh -HS2 isn't even stopping in Coventry - it is London to Brum direct - they won't be stopping at some shitty stadium at Warwick Uni. However this is the most credible suggestion yet - well it would be if it wasn't for the transport, the rich people around the area, the lack of land and the fact that Warwick council Leader told me they wouldn't allow a stadium anywhere in their district?? But and it is a big but - Warwick Uni might like a small stadium to add to the university's cache??
Hobo
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Sorry I must stop putting my tongue in my cheek!
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Jack Griffin
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Tesco have plans for Cannon Park & have planning permission for a big Tesco Extra store.
Which makes me think that the Warwick Uni idea is yet another red herring.. no other supermarket is getting permission in the area, Tesco have it wrapped up.
http://www.cannonpark.org/newsitems/Rev'd Cannon Pk 01..pdf
http://www.tescopoly.org/campaign/coventry-warwickshire
Look anywhere that has not been mentioned.. if indeed there are any real plans!
Which makes me think that the Warwick Uni idea is yet another red herring.. no other supermarket is getting permission in the area, Tesco have it wrapped up.
http://www.cannonpark.org/newsitems/Rev'd Cannon Pk 01..pdf
http://www.tescopoly.org/campaign/coventry-warwickshire
Look anywhere that has not been mentioned.. if indeed there are any real plans!
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No future with SISU
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I cannot belive the rubbish you have just written. Get rid of your sat nav and buy your self a Ordnance Survey map of coventry number 221 and on there you will realise their is no way in for a new road to a stadium. It is the reason their is so much traffic conjestion around the uni and westwood heath.
No future with SISU
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Is it warwick uni or warwick town, or as warwick is a surname could it be somewhere else in the country where a warwick lives.
skybluebal
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To add, she doesn't negotiate - what a great business approach!
skybluebal
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“You can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you can never please all of the people all of the time.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Basically, you will never get 100% fan unity.
Astute
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skybluebal
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Big protests are great for the media and bringing our plight to the attention of the country (at least the footy fans). However, what really grinds people/organisations down is the sustained niggling at them, it means they have to spend time and energy on those activities instead of focusing on what they really want to do.
So both types of activities are to be applauded.
skybluebal
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So having nearly 90% not going to Northampton is an achievement then
I agree, its probably as unified as you can get.
Since you ask, why don't you suggest a constructive idea or organise one?
Seems to me you're only interested in posting question after another on this message board. Threads are littered with one line questions from you.
jesus-wept
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Why build a new ground when you could buy one, right in the centre of Coventry. The Butts Park Arena and use it as a duel sport facility, increasing potential revenue. Forget the "we won't build within the CCC boundary" quote from JS. Not sure who exactly owns it, but who could object ? It is already there and a sports arena. Not sure what the capacity is now but looking at the site getting it up to 5000 shouldn't be a problem. Obviousy doubtful if it could ever be a 32000 capacity arena but at the moment 10/12000 is ample. Station a short walk away, loads of car parks around in city centre also within walking distance. AND would be very popular with supporters, who are also voters. Out of the question...Why ?
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jesus-wept
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Just checked, the capacity is 4200, double what we are getting currently, so as said in the previous thread, how could there be any objection to football being played there aswell as rugby union.
And I cannot believe your rubbish response. Nowhere did he make the case for that site - he simply said he has heard from a source he trusts that it is their number 1 target.
As for Warwick Uni, while I think it is preferable to the likes of Ryton or Ansty Park, it would indeed be fraught with planning issues. For me, the most viable site (from a planning is perspective) is the brownfield site at Ryton (but that would be by no means straight forward). Ansty Park, on paper at least, would be the least troublesome in terms of planning (no issues with access), brownfield site, no nearby residents and next to zero impact on roads within Coventry. The issue there of course would be change of use, and the fact the owners of that site have ruled it out (and a horrible place to have a football ground).
Much as I don't like the Ricoh (but the addition of a train station would be a massive plus), that is SISU's only viable option that I see, but then nobody is going to sell it to them. Where does that leave us? Well, in Northampton I guess. I can't see an end to this. JS would rather drill holes in her own head than pay rent at the Ricoh, so what next? It's all very depressing.
In an ideal world, the Ricoh would adapt and diversify and become a successful conference/exhibition facility and the club would team up with CRFC and develop The Butts. I'd be very happy with that, but the issue is the here and now, because it just isn't suitable. TF was asked at a fans forum about it, and said that they asked the FL and it was rejected. There is only one set of turnstiles and no way of segregating fans or increasing capacity (I think 4200 would make it the smallest ground in the football league) without changes that would require planning permission, and how likely is that? I'd also argue that 10,000 would not be nearly big enough (but clearly preferable to Sixfields), but long term it would need to be 20K.
I suppose if the Ricoh ever move on without the club, then it might become an option. We're a long way from that point though.
skybluetony176
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just thought of another problem for building a stadium outside of Coventry's jurisdiction.
Policing, why would another borough or county councils police force, police a CCFC game? i know they are at Sixfields but from the local press reports that has been reluctantly and forced.
If they did build a stadium at say, Brandon. that would have to be policed by Rugby and being from Rugby i know they don't want to police rugby town fc and only do for the occasional big games, such as the odd FA cup game and last seasons play off final. so why would they do it for CCFC.
even if they got planning permission to build it, if the local police force refused to police it would they get the necessary licences to run games?
another reason why i believe its all BS
Policing, why would another borough or county councils police force, police a CCFC game? i know they are at Sixfields but from the local press reports that has been reluctantly and forced.
If they did build a stadium at say, Brandon. that would have to be policed by Rugby and being from Rugby i know they don't want to police rugby town fc and only do for the occasional big games, such as the odd FA cup game and last seasons play off final. so why would they do it for CCFC.
even if they got planning permission to build it, if the local police force refused to police it would they get the necessary licences to run games?
another reason why i believe its all BS
There is no precedent for a police force refusing to police a football game that I recall (at least not outside the ground, but clubs are not obliged to have police inside the ground anyway, and if they do they pay for it). It just wouldn't happen.
chiefdave
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If it was at Warwick Uni would a retail park be viable? Canon Park already exists and doesn't seem to do a roaring trade apart from Tesco, surely if there's a demand for a larger store there Tesco will expand the existing Canon Park store. IMO Warwick Uni is a poor location for a big box retail complex (to attract the likes of PC World, Homebase, Toys R Us etc, the types of stores that typically occupy these sites).
Those that know the uni well what are the potential locations? Would have thought anything to the south west of the site (Gibbet Hill to Kirby Corner as a rough guide) would struggle to get planning. Are there areas already within the university complex that would be large enough to build a ground?
bigfatronssba
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Also another out of town shopping centre will leave them open to objections from CCC. For instance Nuneaton and Bedworth council objected (albeit unsuccessfully) about the size of arena Tesco. That has had an impact on the amount of people using Bedworth town centre.